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Brand new Ipsos Reid poll-HRC-55% SBS-18%/ JB 11%/ M O 2%---DT 21% JB 12% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 OP
Who is DT? nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #1
The guy with the gerbil as his hairpiece Picking Dem Aug 2015 #2
D'Oh! Of course,thanks. nt sufrommich Aug 2015 #3
The gentleman with the most interesting hair. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #6
"Who is DT" - If you don't know, consider yourself lucky. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #4
National polls appear to have stabilized. nt Adrahil Aug 2015 #5
The more things change, the more they stay the same... brooklynite Aug 2015 #7
Look at the Republican results: Carson/Fiorina taking off; Walker tanking... brooklynite Aug 2015 #8
Wow at the "wouldn't vote"... Agschmid Aug 2015 #9
They don't say. That number struck me too, though it's not inconsistent with turnout. Adrahil Aug 2015 #14
Agree. Agschmid Aug 2015 #15
I'm still betting on Jeb. DCBob Aug 2015 #10
John Kasich (R) 1% DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #12
Kasich behind Jindal and Rick Perry taught_me_patience Aug 2015 #16
Its a HORSERACE: "Wouldn't Vote is Charging Quick on the Rail Stallion Aug 2015 #29
Looking good for Hillary. DCBob Aug 2015 #11
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #13
Didn't Nate Silver recently suggest Bernie's surge had plateaued? taught_me_patience Aug 2015 #17
Nate also makes a compelling case that the Vermont senator can win IA and NH and lose ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #21
That's a meaningless national poll. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #18
Please feel free to ignore... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #19
I referred to early states in the plural, not just New Hampshire. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #27
In NH BainsBane Aug 2015 #22
SC might be the end of Bernie. DCBob Aug 2015 #24
I doubt it. He has probably already written off South Carolina and is looking past it totodeinhere Aug 2015 #26
Meh... my primary isn't until May.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #25
It shows Bernie has little appeal outside a few states that fit his sweetspot. DCBob Aug 2015 #30
I know this is anecdotal but I live in Nevada and I'm active at my local precinct level. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #31
There has not been much polling for Nevada so its not too clear but.. DCBob Aug 2015 #32
The conventional wisdom is that Clinton has strong support in Clark County totodeinhere Aug 2015 #35
I'm in Tennessee and the only Democratic bumper stickers Fawke Em Aug 2015 #34
K&R! SonderWoman Aug 2015 #20
Yawn billhicks76 Aug 2015 #23
I want any Dem to win over any Repub Frances Aug 2015 #28
Yawn. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #33
K&R. lunamagica Aug 2015 #36
People dont really know who Bernie Sanders is moobu2 Aug 2015 #37

brooklynite

(94,601 posts)
8. Look at the Republican results: Carson/Fiorina taking off; Walker tanking...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:13 PM
Aug 2015

Donald Trump (R) 21%
Jeb Bush (R) 12%
Ben Carson (R) 8%
Marco Rubio (R) 8%
Mike Huckabee (R) 7%
Rand Paul (R) 6%
Carly Fiorina (R) 6%
Ted Cruz (R) 5%
Scott Walker (R) 5%
Chris Christie (R) 3%
Lindsey Graham (R) 2%
Rick Perry (R) 2%
Bobby Jindal (R) 2%
John Kasich (R) 1%
George Pataki (R) 1%
Rick Santorum (R) 1%
Wouldn't vote 10%

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
14. They don't say. That number struck me too, though it's not inconsistent with turnout.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:26 PM
Aug 2015

I would guess "in the election," since the normal response would "no repsonse, don't know."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. John Kasich (R) 1%
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:22 PM
Aug 2015

If that poll is correct Kasich might find himself excluded from the big boys and girls debate next time.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
16. Kasich behind Jindal and Rick Perry
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:32 PM
Aug 2015

Is real good news. This guy would be a serious contender for the general if he were nominated.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
17. Didn't Nate Silver recently suggest Bernie's surge had plateaued?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:34 PM
Aug 2015

And he was promptly thrown under the bus by the Bernistas. Yeah... it looks like Bernie is flatlining at about 18-22%.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. Nate also makes a compelling case that the Vermont senator can win IA and NH and lose ...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:05 PM
Aug 2015

Nate also makes a compelling case that the Vermont senator can win IA and NH and lose everywhere else:


http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-could-win-iowa-and-new-hampshire-then-lose-everywhere-else



And the NH poll that some folks are touting to the moon might be an outlier:

Sam Wang retweeted
Daily Kos Elections ‏@DKElections Aug 11
Franklin Pierce's poll was conducted by R. Kelly Myers, who used to run UNH, one of the worst pollsters in the world https://www.linkedin.com/in/rkellymyers



Sam Wang ‏@SamWangPhD Aug 11

God, you people are saps. First poll from this organization in six years, no track record, outlier data point. Geez.



Drew Linzer ‏@DrewLinzer Aug 12
It's possible @SenSanders could catch @HillaryClinton in NH, but a robust poll smoother shows he's not there yet.





Daily Kos Elections ‏@DKElections Aug 11
So, pollster who apparently hasn't polled any elections since 2008 releases buzz-y poll on 2016. Hmm.



Daily Kos Elections ‏@DKElections Aug 11
Just checked Nexis. Can't find any Franklin Pierce U. polls since 2008 *primaries*. They really didn't even poll the general?




Daily Kos Elections ‏@DKElections Aug 11
Franklin Pierce's polling arm falls under the Marlin Fitzwater Center: http://www.franklinpierce.edu/institutes/mfcc/about_mf.htm … He was press sec'y for Reagan & Bush

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
18. That's a meaningless national poll.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:51 PM
Aug 2015

What's more important is what is happening in early primary and caucus states. Bernie is much more competitive there.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Please feel free to ignore...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:01 PM
Aug 2015

Please feel free to ignore every other state and national poll because Bernie Sanders is leading in one isolated poll in homogeneous New Hampshire.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
27. I referred to early states in the plural, not just New Hampshire.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:57 PM
Aug 2015

And it's all about momentum. If he does well in Iowa and New Hampshire that gives his campaign momentum going forward. Then there's Nevada where I am. We are already making significant efforts to get organized for Bernie at the precinct level going into the caucuses.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
22. In NH
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

He's in single digits in S Carolina, which makes him less competitive there than in national polling.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
24. SC might be the end of Bernie.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 06:56 PM
Aug 2015

He will lose by such a large margin I suspect he will give it up.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
26. I doubt it. He has probably already written off South Carolina and is looking past it
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:51 PM
Aug 2015

to other contests down the road,

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
25. Meh... my primary isn't until May....
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:47 PM
Aug 2015

I HATE our primary system. I never really get to influence it.

Except by polls. I've been polled a number of times. At least THEN my voice gets heard.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
30. It shows Bernie has little appeal outside a few states that fit his sweetspot.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:29 AM
Aug 2015

Even if you just look at the early primary and caucus states Hillary is still looking very good. Only in NH does it appear to be close.

Here's how I see it playing out.

Iowa: Hillary wins by about 5-10 points.
NH: Bernie wins by a point or two... if everything goes perfectly for the Bern.
SC: Hillary wins in a blowout.
Nevada: Hillary wins by about 5-10 points

Super Tuesday: Hillary has a very big day and Bernie surrenders.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
31. I know this is anecdotal but I live in Nevada and I'm active at my local precinct level.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:14 PM
Aug 2015

At least in my neighborhood Bernie has strong support and Clinton does not.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
32. There has not been much polling for Nevada so its not too clear but..
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:52 PM
Aug 2015

I suspect it will be similar to Iowa.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
35. The conventional wisdom is that Clinton has strong support in Clark County
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:08 PM
Aug 2015

and Bernie is leading everywhere else. I don't think it's any coincidence that Bernie has been to Las Vegas several times. He needs to cut into Clinton's lead there.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
34. I'm in Tennessee and the only Democratic bumper stickers
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:59 PM
Aug 2015

I've seen are for Bernie.

I've seen some Trump and Carson on the Republican side, but not one Hillary sticker.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
23. Yawn
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 06:41 PM
Aug 2015

Just because Wall St and the Military want Hillary and Jeb doesn't mean we have to give it to them. Shame.

Frances

(8,545 posts)
28. I want any Dem to win over any Repub
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:36 PM
Aug 2015

But I hope Sanders and his supporters are more empathetic with black voters in the future because without black voters turning out for the Dems in the general election, the Dems will lose

To be honest, when Sanders said that Obama lost touch with the grass roots, my first thought was that Sanders was losing touch with black voters. Obama is the first black president; he has accomplished more than most presidents against much greater odds than other presidents. After all, the Republicans decided from the very first that their goal was not to do what was best for the country, but to defeat Obama in a second term.

I think many of us Dems wondered why Sanders was attacking Obama and not the Repubs. It sounded as though he was disrespecting our black President to me.

Bottom line: If a Dem wants to win a general election, he/she should attack Repubs, not Dems.



moobu2

(4,822 posts)
37. People dont really know who Bernie Sanders is
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:14 PM
Aug 2015

because the media has basically given him a free ride without looking into his past. Once he gets some real coverage and people get to know him he'll be lucky to get 10%.

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