2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDiehardLiberal
(580 posts)Berning it up!
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)"GOP is hellbent on getting us into a war with Iran."
DiehardLiberal
(580 posts)not the polished binder of HRC. So REAL!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)elleng
(130,936 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)She is more experienced in foreign affairs than Berney.I think this election unfortunately will be about foreign policy only because the republicans will make it that way and the stupid media will follow along.Sanders isn't as experienced in that as Hillary or Biden for that matter.Say what you want about Hillary but she did have a hand in the Cuba relations and Iranian agreement.I know a lot of progressives don't want to hear about foreign policy but she was tough tonight in that area.
elleng
(130,936 posts)people will remember that.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Shit Biden voted for the war.And some DU'ers who hate Hillary want him to jump in the race
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)those wounded, killed and left without parents.
For many of those people it is not old, they have to live with the aftermath of 'getting it wrong' each and every day. To brush aside the suffering of so many in the Middle East and here at home is not seeing the big picture IMHO.
Many Dems got it wrong, but some got it right. We should support those who could see through the lies.
A simple apology is convenient, but she got it wrong, when so many got it right.
It is not old if you no longer have parents or are living in another country
Why do they hate us, we need to look around.
delrem
(9,688 posts)while overlooking Hillary's actual contribution, which was to expand the WoT from Afghanistan and Iraq to Libya and Syria, creating an even more out of control and unmanageable situation.
Obama's second term, with Kerry on the team, is qualitatively better than his first term with Clinton doing her hawkish thing.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)making no mention of Obama and only a very passing reference to Kerry.
All because Hillary says she had Sullivan meet with the Iranians sometime well before anything began, but which supposedly "eventually leading to a September 2013 phone call in which Obama and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani agreed to formally pursue the negotiations". And that's IT. That's, like, NOTHING.
The article reads like a pro-Hillary spin piece, written with HRC's campaign in mind
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)but he has been very good in foreign relations
CanadaexPat
(496 posts)foreign policy. Sanders new idea will be to say, we've got a lot of things at home we should be spending our money on. People are tired of wars and tired of disinvestment domestically and that can drive their appreciation of foreign policy positions.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)diabeticman
(3,121 posts)The Media show equal coverage to all candidates...How refreshing.
mymomwasright
(298 posts)For reporting issues that don't matter to most of us.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)After her speech, Clinton sat with the crowd; Sanders left the building.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/08/15/wing-ding-democrats-gore-biden-chafee-clinton-omalley-sanders/31755555/