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applegrove

(118,658 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:55 PM Aug 2015

Hillary Just Wanted To Send Emails From Her Phone Like A Normal Person. Then The Trouble Started.

Hillary Just Wanted To Send Emails From Her Phone Like A Normal Person. Then The Trouble Started.

by Lauren C. Williams at Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/14/3691143/cybersecurity-wont-let-hillary-live-her-life/

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Clinton or any other appointed or elected figures can’t be “normal” and use technology to make their lives a smidge easier, according to Stewart Baker, a former Department of Homeland Security administrator and national security attorney with Steptoe and Johnson in Washington, D.C.

“Security is the enemy of convenience, and the effort to find the compromise between the two is always risky. It’s not for the faint of heart and it’s not for amateurs,” he said.

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For government leaders, the priority is to secure communications and keep them from being intercepted. “The higher ups are going to discover that when they take office, they’re going back 15 years in time,” Baker said.

“The [technological] delay is built in,” he said. “Typically, we find the technology, fall in love and then we find the security flaws…There are always undiscovered security problems. There are going to be instances when [officials] can’t use the tech in their daily lives,” and be somewhat normal. But then again, he quipped, “A normal person doesn’t get to be secretary of state.”


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Hillary Just Wanted To Send Emails From Her Phone Like A Normal Person. Then The Trouble Started. (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2015 OP
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Welcome to DU! panader0 Aug 2015 #3
Total BS. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #2
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Difficult to do, but *STILL* doable. Picking Dem Aug 2015 #5
Don't know what the troll said, but I can assure you that Fawke Em Aug 2015 #13
Wanted to know if it's doable to recover data from a DoD wipe Picking Dem Aug 2015 #15
Hey Mole PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #6
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I don't think the private server was to do better security. I think it was so applegrove Aug 2015 #7
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Why didn't the justice department start to investigate her when it became public months ago? Because applegrove Aug 2015 #10
Classified info - says it all. 840high Aug 2015 #11
Someone sent that to her. If that same person had sent it to a Hillary account a the State applegrove Aug 2015 #12
Mine is completely separate. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #14
do you seriously think those complaining, mostly hypocritically, about security dsc Aug 2015 #19
think progress is essentially an arm of the Clinton campaign. cali Aug 2015 #16
So nobody on her team can explain anything? The narrative on applegrove Aug 2015 #18
People who email from their phone are NOT "normal", IMHO. John Poet Aug 2015 #17

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
2. Total BS.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:10 PM
Aug 2015

I have both my work and my personal emails enabled on my mostly-secure iPhone.

You don't need to use a private server to do that.

Hell, I work for an Internet security company and we've had products for years that would have helped the government accomplish this and at a government rate.

Response to Fawke Em (Reply #2)

 

Picking Dem

(106 posts)
5. Difficult to do, but *STILL* doable.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:22 PM
Aug 2015

Still have to have the tools needed for the job. That's why data recovery folks earn the big bucks.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
13. Don't know what the troll said, but I can assure you that
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:45 AM
Aug 2015

it's not even difficult.

Not even back when she first became Secretary of State.

And, yeah, our data recovery guys all earn six figures where I work.

Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #6)

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
7. I don't think the private server was to do better security. I think it was so
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 09:29 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:09 PM - Edit history (2)

she could separate her personal from her work email at some juncture. Which she did. So it would be together and convenient on a daily basis till it was time to archive the government related stuff. Of course in hindsight it was the wrong thing to do. But illegal?

Response to applegrove (Reply #7)

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
10. Why didn't the justice department start to investigate her when it became public months ago? Because
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:14 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:41 AM - Edit history (2)

it was in a grey area policy wise and had nothing to do with the Law. It wasn't until it came up that some classified info was sent to her that they did.

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
12. Someone sent that to her. If that same person had sent it to a Hillary account a the State
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 11:39 PM
Aug 2015

Department it also would have been mishandled since her state department email was not secure for classified info either. The person would have made the same 'mistake'. And there is some question as to whether the information was classified at the time it was sent or if it became so after the fact.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
14. Mine is completely separate.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:51 AM
Aug 2015

I have three accounts on one phone.

NOT DIFFICULT.

If she wants to gossip, laugh at animal memes and trade recipes on her personal email, while still having her work email, it's not hard.

Here's a pic of my phone:


You can see I have my Gmail and Exchange accounts piped in. I can also check my Yahoo online. Not a big deal at all.

And, no, it's not illegal, but it should be.

P.S. I used to have my ATT account on there, too, but I got rid of that recently, so I am incorrect when I said I HAVE three accounts on my phone. I USED to HAVE three accounts and now it's only two, but my point is still the same. You can have work and personal accounts, separately, on your phone. And I'm in PR. I'm not an IT security analyst, yet I set up my accounts myself. It's not rocket science.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
19. do you seriously think those complaining, mostly hypocritically, about security
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:13 PM
Aug 2015

would accept mostly secure as an answer?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. think progress is essentially an arm of the Clinton campaign.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 05:38 AM
Aug 2015

It is an outlet of the center for American progress, which is more than aligned with her campaign.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkProgress

John podesta is chair of CAP and Hillary's campaign.

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
18. So nobody on her team can explain anything? The narrative on
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:05 PM
Aug 2015

Hillary can only come from people who are against her?

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