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Fox News Poll Hillary 49% Bernie 30% (Original Post) K lib Aug 2015 OP
Great News - Go Bernie Go - A President For The People - Not The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Aug 2015 #1
i am sure some will dismiss this Robbins Aug 2015 #2
Fox wants the GOP to run against an unelectable socialist with no swing states ericson00 Aug 2015 #34
Biden at 10%. DCBob Aug 2015 #3
Most of those could be anti-Clinton votes. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #5
Almost every poll this year without Biden.. Hillary's numbers go up. DCBob Aug 2015 #8
c'mon, didn't know you about Fox's amazing track record, like the Romney Landslide? ericson00 Aug 2015 #35
Joe Biden lost 3 points from the last poll K lib Aug 2015 #7
let's test your theory virtualobserver Aug 2015 #11
I think every other non-Faux poll shows without Biden, Hilary goes up. DCBob Aug 2015 #16
Bleh FAUX. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #4
I wouldn't get EXCITED about any polling in August bigdarryl Aug 2015 #18
Yet when I went to the Google News homepage this morning, libdem4life Aug 2015 #6
No matter how you spin she still up by 19 points FloridaBlues Aug 2015 #9
Are you disagreeing with the facts or just editorializing? libdem4life Aug 2015 #10
I also like math and understand how it works. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #12
back in 2007 she often has 20 point lead. Robbins Aug 2015 #13
Closer than her Oct. 2007 lead jfern Aug 2015 #30
OMG did you see page 14? The sampling error is HUGE. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #14
Likely has to do... HerbChestnut Aug 2015 #15
IIRC It takes ~ 400 participants to get to 5% margin of error, they surveyed ~ 1000 HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #32
Hillary 30% Bernie 49% CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #17
Whoa those are some good numbers for Bernie!! ram2008 Aug 2015 #19
Daily Kos founder Markos predicted Sanders ceiling would be 30% bigdarryl Aug 2015 #20
Since when is Markos a statistician? ram2008 Aug 2015 #21
Not true you should start listening to him on Thursdays bigdarryl Aug 2015 #24
He is a talking head ram2008 Aug 2015 #25
He's no fucking talking head he's the Founder of the most bigdarryl Aug 2015 #26
He's still a talking head... ram2008 Aug 2015 #27
and most others said he would only get 20 or 25% Robbins Aug 2015 #22
That was about what I would predict... DCBob Aug 2015 #23
Kos was just attacking Sanders jfern Aug 2015 #31
If that holds upit's a big deal.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #28
Interesting that Chuck Todd was talking about Clinton's falling numbers HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #29
Anything better than Fox? ericson00 Aug 2015 #33

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
2. i am sure some will dismiss this
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:26 AM
Aug 2015

but why would fox manuiple poll to show hillary losing support and bernie gaining support.this is national poll and bernie has hit 30%

also trump is in lead for republicans.Fox doesn't want that.hell carson and cruz are ahead of bush.

the 2016 gop plan is to run against Hillary.Bernie forces that playbook out the door.just like Obama did.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
34. Fox wants the GOP to run against an unelectable socialist with no swing states
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:57 PM
Aug 2015

because they know the Clintons already beat them twice (and 3 times if you count the fact Gore was the real winner in 2000).

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. Almost every poll this year without Biden.. Hillary's numbers go up.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:33 AM
Aug 2015

But this is Faux.. so who knows.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
11. let's test your theory
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:40 AM
Aug 2015

biden went down.....AND hillary went down......nope, your theory doesn't hold water

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
16. I think every other non-Faux poll shows without Biden, Hilary goes up.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

But Faux always seems to buck the trend.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
4. Bleh FAUX.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:29 AM
Aug 2015

These early polls mean very little.

Do we really need to link to "them" just because they came up with one we like?

I will admit that seeing her below 50% is something that I like. Even so, I can wait for some other polls to show the same thing before getting excited about it.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
18. I wouldn't get EXCITED about any polling in August
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:15 AM
Aug 2015

We haven't even had debates yet.Plus once that superpacs money starts running negative ads against Trump and Bernie it's a whole new ball game.People get very upset with negative ads but they work.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. Yet when I went to the Google News homepage this morning,
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:30 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie is not mentioned. Yesterday a majority of Greatest Threads were about Bernie. Few today. Not much has been written.

It's Trump 80% and Clinton 20%, more or less.

His name was in the title of the article about Clinton's announcement and one sentence in the article. Then I found this article.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. Are you disagreeing with the facts or just editorializing?
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:40 AM
Aug 2015

He's bringing in huge crowds. Barely a mention. O'Malley I understand...he's still just a footnote.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
13. back in 2007 she often has 20 point lead.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:46 AM
Aug 2015

Bernie at 30% in national poll is great.

when you are running a grassroots campagin against establishment it takes time for numbers to move.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
14. OMG did you see page 14? The sampling error is HUGE.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:50 AM
Aug 2015

Independents +/- 7, Black +/- 9, but White only +/- 3???

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
15. Likely has to do...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:04 AM
Aug 2015

with the sample size. Smaller sample size usually = larger margin of error. But that's ok because percentage differences mean less and less with fewer samples (i.e. 3% of 100 is 3 but 7% of 10 is 0.7).

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
32. IIRC It takes ~ 400 participants to get to 5% margin of error, they surveyed ~ 1000
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:06 PM
Aug 2015

As you say, because the margins of error are inversely related to sample size and minorities make up a smaller part of the surveys, minorities have bigger margins of error.

CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
17. Hillary 30% Bernie 49%
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:14 AM
Aug 2015

Probably the reality of it and then some!

Never, and I mean NEVER trust FAUX news!



ram2008

(1,238 posts)
19. Whoa those are some good numbers for Bernie!!
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:24 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Fox News' polling organization is reliable. This is good news for Bernie supporters... Clinton finally below 50% and Bernie at 30% nationally!

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
20. Daily Kos founder Markos predicted Sanders ceiling would be 30%
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:27 AM
Aug 2015

Nothing to get excited about.In fact my question would be is he peaking to soon.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
24. Not true you should start listening to him on Thursdays
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:03 PM
Aug 2015

When he's a guess On Mark Thompson's show between 6:00PM and 6:50PM.hes.very knowledgable in politics and polling.In fact Mark Thompson thinks he's as good as Nate Silver he in fact said three months ago that Sanders had a good chance on winning NH and.Iowa and after that it's super Tuesday with Hillary taking most if not all of the state's because of the African American vote and when all said and done after the primary he would end up with 30 to maybe even close to 40% of the total primary vote

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
25. He is a talking head
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:05 PM
Aug 2015

There are plenty of them, and they all don't know what they are talking about and are "guesstimating" based not their own opinions.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
26. He's no fucking talking head he's the Founder of the most
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:11 PM
Aug 2015

Progressive site online even more so than DU.He never is on the cable news channels and only does interviews on Mark. Thompson show

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
27. He's still a talking head...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:22 PM
Aug 2015

And a Hillary shill. Kudos for him starting the DailyKos though. However, that doesn't mean he has more credibility when discussing numbers in Presidential politics.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
22. and most others said he would only get 20 or 25%
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:33 AM
Aug 2015

I can see you will dismiss anything in postive direction for Bernie.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
23. That was about what I would predict...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

I was thinking more like 25%.. as an average across all polls.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
28. If that holds upit's a big deal....
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:39 PM
Aug 2015

But that's a huge change for about 10 days of poll. But if it does hold up, it could be a whole new ballgame.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
29. Interesting that Chuck Todd was talking about Clinton's falling numbers
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:00 PM
Aug 2015

National exposure on falling numbers is probably not what Clinton campaign wants regardless of what month it is.

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