2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe interesting thing about the Fox News poll is that Sanders increase isn't at expense of HRC
Clinton dropped 2 points from 51 to 49 while Sanders increased 8. So Where did Sanders pick up support?
2 points from Clinton
3 points from Biden
1 point from Chafee (Who had zero support in this poll)
2 points from not sure
So what does that mean? Bernie made gains without Clinton significantly dropping, which is an unusual circumstance. It also means that people are now viewing this race as a 2 horse race between Sanders and Clinton and have begun consolidating support. In this case, Sanders has grabbed some of those votes.
So the question now becomes, will other national polls show the same voter consolidation? If so, what way will the voters break? Will Clinton continue to hold her exceptionally strong base? If so, she needs very few of the other voters to break her way.
Finally, according to the poll Not Sure is now down to only 4%. Sanders has the name recognition now, so it is up to him to figure out a way to break up the Clinton base that has truly not budged. Will be interesting to see what other national polls say in the next few weeks.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)That this could be an outlier. But if it is "real," it seems to me Democrats have decided this is the Hill and Bern show, and they've decided to split into camps, with some holding out for Biden. If abiden jumps in, it could get crazy.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)But I wanted to offer insight as if this poll was in a vacuum. The fact that Sanders had gained without Clinton losing is very interesting. The implication is that her base is both broad and loyal. So everything depends on other voters breaking for Sanders and for the Clinton base to desert her, which they have not done.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)As I said in the rest of my post, it looks like the "Not Hillary" voters are coalescing behind Sanders. That's not surprising to me, since none of the other candidates seem to be gathering any support.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)KKK Rove confused. Yep. Not a poll person - PP seems up and up tho.
Anywho, thanks for the breakdown.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)elsewhere are so stupid that they won't have much of an effect. I think the bigger challenge for Bernie is convincing people he can win the general. I do think that if he does well enough in the early primaries, he might build enough momentum to start shifting voters away from Clinton. Sadly, I am not very optimistic, but I think Bernie supporters should keep trying their very best because they have the best candidate.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)I think it will be around 48% Clinton, 35% Sanders, 15% other by the time of the Iowa Caucus.
If he wins Iowa and then NH, then he'll start chipping away at Hillary's coalition and start to take some of her voters. I'm starting to think Biden will give it a run, so that could throw a monkey wrench into every single campaigns strategy.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)He gained 3 points of Biden support, meaning done current Biden supporters are in the Anyone But Clinton camp and are backing the candidate they must think can bring her down. In which case, Biden entering might syphon Sanders' support as people may view Biden as the better bet versus Clinton.
This does go against the Clinton would lose support sentiment, but it is the implication of the poll.