Bernie Sanders popularity means moving to a bigger venue for Saturday rally in Charleston

[think]

Bernie Sanders popularity means moving to a bigger venue for Saturday rally

By Schuyler Kropf - Aug 19 2015 2:39 pm

The same national buzz seen elsewhere in Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has now hit Charleston - so much so that he’s moving his Saturday night visit to a bigger location.

Instead of the Burke High School gymnasium (capacity 1,500), Sanders’ appearance will be at the Convention Center in North Charleston, where the campaign hopes to draw more than 3,000.

The start time will remain the same, 7 p.m.

“Superman is coming,” said Rachel Reese, of West Ashley, a Sanders supporter. “He is getting so much attention, it’s mind-boggling.”...

Full article:
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150819/PC1603/150819299

[SamKnause]

1. I look forward to the day when his

venues have more supporters outside than inside.

I think it's coming.

The parking garage photo from Reno was a site to behold !!!!!!!!

[sabrina 1]

9. Reno was amazing, but so are all his events, way beyond what I know I expected

when he first announced he was running. I thought it would a while before he got his message out to enough people to produce these crowds.

Both his campaign managers AND his SUPPORTERS are awesome!

[Mnpaul]

71. It may have happened already

one of his first events, in Minneapolis, looked like it.

[whatchamacallit]

2. It means nothing

Go Bernie!

[Zorra]

3. K&R nt

[Uncle Joe]

4. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, think.

[AppalachianLeftist]

5. South Carolina is about to feel the Bern.

The more he becomes a household name, the more that state will swing in his favor.

Then to the dustbin of history the conservative wing of the party will go.

[MuseRider]

6. He is beholding to no one

but the citizen.

Not his colleagues (who among them has the nerve to catch what is coming if they endorse Bernie and Hillary wins?)
Not the wealthy
Not the banks

Thankfully it is the citizens who elect our leaders and he is the only one that is strictly beholden to us. He set it up that way. Amazing stuff.

Long way to go, the sarcastic elitist snark is heavy out there but if he can take it I think we can as well.

[WillyT]

7. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[AikidoSoul]

8. Very worried about his security

He needs the best of the best of the skilled and trustworthy. They need to be vetted very closely.

[narnian60]

12. Me, too.

[GoneFishin]

82. Yes. They need to be vetted very closely.

[FuzzyRabbit]

135. Me too.

I was watching TV the evening RFK was shot.

[The Traveler]

138. Me, too.

I was 12. I will never, ever forget that night or how it affected everyone in the household. The look on my Dad's face ...

Trav

[lark]

10. Oh, happy day!

The meme has been Bernie packs them in where it's blue but is being ignored in red states. Charleston is in a heavily red state, so suck on it, msm.

[retrowire]

11. come to NC soon Bernie!!!! n/t

[Cherry Creek Native]

64. He is - on the 23rd

Charlotte!

[retrowire]

88. What? Where did you hear this?

My googling skills find nothing!

[Cherry Creek Native]

89. I saw something last week

but I could have misread it. He's in NH on the 23rd. Sorry.

[retrowire]

90. My heart dropped but thanks for clarifying!

This is a relief actually, I still have time to plan now.

[Cherry Creek Native]

94. No problem...

I'll keep looking - but here's an interesting looking event you might want to check out:

https://secure.berniesanders.com/page/event/detail/volunteermeetingtogetorganizedorlearnmore/4jljr

[MaggieD]

13. Bernie strategy - book a small venue and then....

.... Dramatically publicize that you need to move to a larger one. That schtick is getting pretty funny at this point. LOL! Or are his people so incompetent they can't figure out what size venue they need time after time?

[frylock]

19. ell ohh ell

[A Simple Game]

21. Incompetent? Maybe, they're probably listening to the Hillary supporters on DU. n/t

[artislife]

76. *snort

It's beginning to look like 2008!

[A Simple Game]

83. Here's hoping. The Democratic leadership is sure acting like it is. n/t

[SonderWoman]

22. If Bernie can't even figure out simple logistics...

He is unqualified to be president.

[Fearless]

29. Seems to be doing just fine

[MaggieD]

34. It's either that, or he's just playing his supporters with this baloney

.... to generate excitement. His supporters are naïve if they don't get this shtick at this point.

[cali]

37. his unpaid supporters do most of the work setting up these rallies.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-rallies-2016-grassroots-support-121512.html

[MaggieD]

41. He or paid staffers leave it to volunteers to book the venue?

Do they just put it on their credit card or what?

[cali]

47. read the article. people who comment without doing so, invariably look....

[MaggieD]

50. I read but i dont think YOU did

It says his staffers book the venues. Oops!

[Live and Learn]

109. You are being a bit ridiculous.

It begins with selecting rally locations, often based simply on the number of supporters the campaign has on its email list in a given city.

Snip>

When a location is determined, staffers often simply turn to Google to find an appropriate venue by searching for coverage of large political rallies held in that area in recent years.

The campaign takes the basic steps of sending an email to local supporters, issuing a press release, creating a Facebook event, and posting a notification on Sanders’ Facebook page, which has more than one million followers.

According to field director Phil Fiermonte, it does little else to promote turnout. “We have not spent any advertising dollars on these events,” he said. “It’s not like we have lots of staff on the ground making phone calls.”

[MrMickeysMom]

75. Where's the baloney?

[artislife]

77. Really. 4500. Balony? smh...nt

[bvar22]

136. Yeah... Bernie is just fooling the naive with that Populist "shtick".

It is a devious plan he put together back in the early 1960s with MLK so he could fool naive Democrats in 2015.
Very devious.

How can you trust somebody who has a 45 year plan to "generate excitement"?

[Alittleliberal]

73. Hahahaha keep trying

[artislife]

78. IKR!!

Heh, they are a strange bunch.

[morningfog]

23. Lol. Your satire is great.

Too bad Hillary can't draw the crowds Bernie can.

[mak3cats]

24. It seems to be getting him some attention, though...

which is good, since the M$M is refusing to cover him. And his poll numbers are going up all the time. So his people can go right on being "incompetent" and it wouldn't bother me one bit.

[MaggieD]

57. Personally it bugs me when candidates try to play me

YMMV.

[mak3cats]

67. Wow!! How do you stand being bugged all the time then?

And congratulations - you're the first one on my Ignore list. Any of the posts of yours that I've read haven't contained much more than snark.

[artislife]

80. Like when he said

"If it's undecided when I become president, I will answer your question,"


I so get it, Maggie.

[ibegurpard]

96. that was sheer brilliance!

What's the matter with you???

[frylock]

97. played!

[frylock]

98. I'd love to hear you explain how it is you are being played here.

[snort]

126. Buh Bye

[Qutzupalotl]

25. Maybe people RSVP and exceed expectations after initial booking.

Or maybe it's all a clever incompetent ploy.

[winter is coming]

32. I thought it was common to book the smallest venue you're confident you can fill

and then move up.

[Babel_17]

117. It is, you'd have to pay for the unused seats and it doesn't look good on camera

Even in just my local area, when the Unions organize an event with the media in attendance they take care to not arrange too large a venue. Hard to overcome the sad/fail optics of empty space.

It's a hassle to move venues/dates as people have to change travel plans and you risk losing the local media. Lots of people need to be coordinated with. Sure, it's great news when you find out you can move to a bigger venue and so it's worth the hassle. And it's great for publicity when you can do so.

Other campaigns are free to rise in popularity and have larger and larger rallies. And they're certainly free to have lots of them.

[think]

31. Because Hillary does a great job of estimating crowd size.

EMBARRASSING: A smaller-than-expected crowd came to Roosevelt Island, leaving a crowd overflow area completely empty

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3122756/Millionaire-Hillary-launch-campaign-slightly-arrogant-Woodstock-rally-New-York-City-island-promises-look-ordinary-Americans-pocketbooks.html#ixzz3jIcOsk6G

Thanks Manny ...

[MaggieD]

35. The actual picture of that rally

[think]

40. The other picture was from the anticipated OVERFLOW area. You know the areas Bernie keeps filling

because so many people show up.

Hillary doesn't seem to have that problem.....

[MaggieD]

43. I think your right wing source is fooling you

But hey, right wing news sources are all the rage by Bernie fans nowadays. The Daily Mail is a right wing newspaper.

[cali]

49. bwahaha. yeah, mags. facts are so right wing. And bernie's crowd pics must be

photo shopped. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[MaggieD]

51. It's a pic from a right wing news site taken prior to the rally

So, no it is not a fact. It's the typical right wing bullshit nonsense.

[cali]

69. buzzt. fail.

It's the overflow area during her announcement speech

And that pic was posted on left wing sites, right wing sites and everything in between.

Your outlandish claims have now reached a Baghdad Bob level of absurdity.

[Cherry Creek Native]

104. Even *I* noticed Hillary's face in that overflow area...

MaggieD claims prior to the speech. Wrong.

[Alittleliberal]

74. There's a screen in the picture...

It shows the crowd at the speech in the fucking picture. Hahahahaha.

[sibelian]

120. You're not very good at this, are you?

Actually, given your tone and attitude I think you'd make a FINE Republican.

[think]

52. How about CNN then?

https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/609740462715310081/photo/1

Or is CNN a right wing source also?

[MaggieD]

55. Feel the Bern!!!

Wow, what a crowd!!

[think]

58. That isn't NYC. But here's Portland!

[MaggieD]

62. Ah, the typical Bernie crowd - a sea of white faces

How come we never see many or even any minorities in these pictures? Do you have any idea?

[Pastiche423]

93. I was there

There were faces of many colors just in the area I sat, as were the faces of the volunteers.

This was Portland, Oregon, after all.

[snort]

131. I was there as well.

The crowd was anybody and everybody. It's one of the reasons I like it here.

[frylock]

99. vast oceans of white people lol..

http://michaelholden.com/work/interactive/panoramic/bernie-sanders-los-angeles-august-2015

[Live and Learn]

110. I thought we had already dispelled taht myth with the LA photos.

I guess some only see what they want to see.

[sibelian]

121. Because you're too racist yourself to actually *see* them?

That's what I think.

I don't think you give two shits about minorities.

[daleanime]

128. Those are some eyes you've got there.....

[cali]

72. holy moly. now you're inferring that he isn't getting enormous crowds in city

after city?

Wowzer. Fucking fascinating.

[artislife]

81. Deflect!

This thread has so many twists and turns!

[MrMickeysMom]

79. Do you purposely put pictures up to ignore the crowds he is drawing?

Or, are you just here to attempt to throw false claims and make people mad as you are? You have to be pretty mad to have 4 of your posts hidden in 90 days.

Why not have an intelligent conversation about it instead of instigating hateful comments?

[Ichingcarpenter]

130. Fart Harvester

[MrMickeysMom]

139. Of COURSE!!!

How silly of me not to have smelt it ahead of time!!!

[Z_California]

33. Yeah, incompetent

Funny how the incompetent candidate draws so many more people than the "competent" one. Ignored. Thanks for being so obvious.

[MaggieD]

38. I doubt he's that incompetent

I think he's just playing off the naivety of his supporters. Clearly it works, because somebody here always breathlessly reports, "OMG he had to get a bigger venue."

It's pretty funny, actually.

[cali]

42. it is common practice to book a venue you're sure you can fill

then, if you receive more responses, you move to a larger facility. They all do it. And it's a good 'problem' to have.

[frylock]

100. You're not going to have to worry about that with Hillary..

although she did nearly crack 1000 attendees at her town hall in that little backwater town of Las Vegas.

[cali]

36. lol. your posts are indistinguishable from parody.

[MaggieD]

39. So you think they are just bad at estimating venue size....

EVERY SINGLE TIME? LMAO!

[cali]

44. mags, if you actually want the facts on the mechanics of his rallies

I posted a link just for you, upthread. Here it is again

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-rallies-2016-grassroots-support-121512.html

[Qutzupalotl]

45. Think about what you're saying here...

"LOL! Their campaign is so incompetent, they keep underestimating the crowds!"

If that's a slam, I'll take it.

[MaggieD]

46. Actually I think they are just playing you

[Qutzupalotl]

48. Jealous much?

[MaggieD]

53. Not even a little

But thanks for asking.

[Qutzupalotl]

54. You know if the tables were turned and Clinton had the big crowds,

you'd be saying it's because she's the superior candidate and there's genuine enthusiasm for her.

[MaggieD]

56. Nope

I am sure she will have big crowds once she starts to hold rallies, but I learned in 2004 with Kerry that they are meaningless. Crowds do not mean committed voters. Many are simply checking out the candidate. My son and his friends went to 2 Bernie rallies and then promptly ruled him out.

But keep believing if it soothes you. I am content with Clinton poll numbers.

[Qutzupalotl]

61. Nothing to "soothe," but thanks for the condescension.

I am sure Sanders will have big poll numbers once they start to hold debates. For now, I am content with record-setting crowds.

[Cherry Creek Native]

105. When she begins a rally - it'll be big for a bit, but not big enough to exceed Bernie sized

rallies. It'll be about the range of 1k-2k (at best) because Clinton will demand "donations" to her campaign, before they get to hear her give her insular stump speech designed to impress no-one but the 1%. People go to Bernie because they don't have to pay to hear what he has to say - and if they like his message, they either sign up or donate to Sanders' campaign.

[sibelian]

122. ... or you're just kind of paranoid.

[Warren Stupidity]

115. uh-oh boss we's got too many peoples coming!

fire the entire staff and start over. Obviously this campaign is doing something very wrong.

[frylock]

102. nah, they should book the largest venue in town, right out of the gate..

that makes good sense, right?

[MaggieD]

66. Well you can laugh at my post, and I will laugh about how Bernie is playing you all

Ooops, I booked the wrong size venue again! LOL!

[Ron Green]

101. You may be a nice person,

but your posts are for shit.

[MuseRider]

107. Is this comedy?

I can't believe you are real. Maybe your mom is not home? I have seen a lot of crap here over the years but you just won't stop. I hope you are having a good time because this is just amazing.

Feel the bern MaggieD

Yeah, he is having us all on.

[Warren Stupidity]

116. sniff test says desperation

[Fawke Em]

65. Well, at least he fills 1,500-seat facilities.

When Clinton was in Reno, she could only muster a crowd of 300.

[Cherry Creek Native]

106. And I bet the crowd was 2/3 media..

and 1/3 screened supporters.

[ibegurpard]

95. pretty smart strategy

I REALLY hope you aren't actually any kind of consultant or strategist in reality.

[frylock]

103. hard to know what's going on with reality there.

[JDPriestly]

118. Hillary does not draw crowds of the size of the crowd I was in at Bernie's event in Los Angeles.

She just does not have that kind of enthusiastic support.

She attracts a stodgier crowd, a less excited crowd, I think.

The Bernie event In Los Angeles was just amazing. We waited for over an hour just to get in, and then we only got seats in the third tier of the building which was very, very large. Bernie's crowds are real. They are huge. And they are very loud and enthusiastic.

Feel the Bern!

People who think it is a trick should attend an event. I think Bernie is just amazed at his reception. I'm glad he is sticking to his principles, not engaging in negative discussion about others and talking as much as possible only about the issues. That is what people want.

[mountain grammy]

119. Oh yeah, that Bernie, deceiving us all with this cunning strategy.

I'll tell ya, we better watch out for this guy who is honest and decent beyond belief but has a secret strategy to mislead voters that he has more support than even his supporters know he has.

You're reaching pretty far here. Makes me think it's all you got!

[MaggieD]

129. He's a politician just like any other

The bulk of DU was convinced of the purity of Obama too. Right up until he was elected. The naivety is amusing.

[mountain grammy]

133. So glad to be here for your amusement

other than that, do you have any purpose at all?

[delrem]

134. At first I was going WTF?? but now I *so* look forward to your posts!

You've perfected a certain nonsense-based humor delivered by this intensely earnest [trying *so* hard] persona, it's comedy gold.
Have you studied VanillaRhapsody's posts for tips? I'm a big fan.

[mountain grammy]

14. and the network media, who fell all over themselves

covering the teabaggers "grass roots" movement are silent. They don't know the meaning of the term "grass roots," but we do!

[Plucketeer]

20. Someone needs to send them a

Bern Notice!

[dgibby]

30. DUzy! nt

[notemason]

15. They're expecting 2000 at the Friday rally

in Greenville at the TD Convention Hall. No seating, just standing. Hope many more show.

[stage left]

124. I'm going and planning to get there early.

Like my sister said yesterday, the parking's going to be a nightmare.

[AppalachianLeftist]

17. Uh oh.

They better write another article about how his supporters are just big ole meanies.

[HereSince1628]

28. But his appeal as a candidate is ultimately limited to his target audience

which is the population of the United States and its territories.

[SoapBox]

18. Spread'n the Word of Bern!

Go Bernie!

[me b zola]

63. Bern is the word

...sung like this...

[MuseRider]

108. :-)

Bah bah bah bah bah bah oooh ma mou mou papa oooh mou mou mou

Ah well a don't you know about the Bern weeeell everybody knows that the Bern is the word

President Beeeerrrrrnnnnn

Please forgive me, I just had a couple of glasses of wine and this was just fun.

[left-of-center2012]

26. News coverage will be ...........

Trump
Trump
Trump

[Eleanors38]

59. I'm waiting for Kardashian to run. Also, to become a candidate.

[Trajan]

27. He is getting so much attention ...

Certainly NOT from the media ...

It sure seems like voters are doing a massive end-around of the media .... this is really really good news ...

[Go Vols]

60. yes it is

[Fawke Em]

68. Did you know that Jane O'Meara Sanders attended....

the University of Tennessee!

She studied Child Development. Left after two years and finished her degree elsewhere. But, still, she's UT girl.

My alma mater.

[FONT COLOR="FF8200"]Oh - and 17 days until It's Football Time in Tennessee!![/font]

http://www.utsports.com/volcountdown/#/

[Go Vols]

70. I did not

ty


and Go Vols!

[cali]

85. did you know her brother was a great equestrian?

http://horsecountrychic.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-late-great-and-relatively-unknown.html

[Fawke Em]

87. Cool

Interesting family.

[askew]

84. Sanders isn't my 1st choice for the primary but I am still damn impressed with his

ability to draw a crowd in city after city. Good for him. I'd love my candidate, Martin O'Malley, to have that issue. But, alas, he doesn't.

Hillary supporters who have to come in here and trash Sanders for being able to draw a crowd 5x the size Hillary could draw are laughable. There's a reason Hillary keeps holding events in such small venues. She can call it a listening tour all she wants, but after her announcement having an entirely empty overflow section, they know there isn't the enthusiasm for her events.

[ALBliberal]

112. I like O'Malley. Thanks for the levity of your post.

[ancianita]

86. Awesome. Hoping there's a racially diverse crowd, that there are no security threats in Charleston.

Hope they play Neil Young's "Keep On Rockin' In the Free World," too!

[slipslidingaway]

91. Excellent, and updated itinerary ...

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-visits-south-carolina/

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"BURLINGTON, Vt. – With turnout projections mounting, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign has shifted the location of Sunday’s rally in Charleston, South Carolina, to the Charleston Convention Center. The two-day swing includes stops in Greenville, Columbia, and Sumter.

Here is the updated itinerary:

Friday, August 21

11 a.m.

Greenville Rally, TD Convention Center, 1 Exposition Drive, Greenville
Press registration can be found here.

Doors open at 10 a.m. The event is free and open to the public. Admission is first come, first served. Tickets are not required, but an RSVP is strongly encouraged.

7 p.m.

Columbia Town Meeting, The Medallion Center, 7309 Garners Ferry Road, Columbia
Press registration can be found here.

Doors open at 6 p.m. The event is free and open to the public. Admission is first come, first served. Tickets are not required, but an RSVP is strongly encouraged.

Saturday, August 22

11 a.m.

Sumter Town Meeting, Sumter County Civic Center, 700 West Liberty Street, Sumter
Press registration can be found here.

Doors open at 10 a.m. The event is free and open to the public. Admission is first come, first served. Tickets are not required, but an RSVP is strongly encouraged.

7 p.m.

North Charleston Rally, Charleston Convention Center, 5000 Coliseum Drive, North Charleston
Press registration can be found here.

Doors open at 6 p.m. The event is free and open to the public. Admission is first come, first served. Tickets are not required, but an RSVP is strongly encouraged.



‹Sanders Lays out Agenda for Working Families at AFL-CIO in Nevada"

[aikoaiko]

92. Good because I think I'm going to attend.

[ecstatic]

111. Were there a lot of posts about Obama's crowds back in 2007?

I don't recall this much discussion about it in 2007. Of course, in mid 2008 when he became the nominee and went to Europe the crowds became astronomical. That really was newsworthy.

With Bernie, it almost seems like the message is, vote for the guy who's getting big crowds! Seems forced.

[ALBliberal]

113. I think it's more that we (his supporters) truly didn't expect this level of

Excitement about his campaign and we continue to be pleasantly surprised. Sure wish we had a different debate schedule maybe then we would be talking more about issues less about crowd size. We have excellent candidates. It would be so great to be able.to compare our debates to the Republican debates!

[Scuba]

114. Has to be bullshit. Bernie has no supporters in the South. Read it right here on DU.

[stage left]

123. And,if he does have any,

They're all old white men.

Note: this is sarcasm, too. I'm going to the rally in Greenville tomorrow so I'll be able to see first hand how diverse the crowd is. I expect it to be age diverse anyway. I'm 60 plus and I contacted a liberal 20 something I used to work with about going. She was already signed up. And so was her SO.

[d_legendary1]

137. I live in Florida and I would be happy to support Sanders

I'm the one!!!

[AzDar]

125. Bern, Baby, Bern!!

[Romulox]

127. The contrast between Bernie's grassroots campaign and Hillary's scripted campaign is palpable. nt

[BeanMusical]

132. ...