2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuestion for Hillary supporters who think that her position as SoS
is one of her major qualification:
Why did she support the military coup against the democratically elected leftist President of Honduras?
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The Hillary Clinton emails released last week include some telling exchanges about the June 2009 military coup that toppled democratically elected Honduran president Manuel Zelaya, a leftist who was seen as a threat by the Honduran establishment and U.S. business interests.
At a time when the State Department strategized over how best to keep Zelaya out of power while not explicitly endorsing the coup, Clinton suggested using longtime Clinton confidant Lanny Davis as a back-channel to Roberto Micheletti, the interim president installed after the coup.
During that period, Davis was working as a consultant to a group of Honduran businessmen who had supported the coup.
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Rather than seeing this as a failure, the Clinton emails released last week further confirm that the State Department had sought the permanent ouster of Zelaya all along.
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https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/06/clinton-honduras-coup
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_
about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/15391
There is no way that criticizing her over this can be twisted into 'more right wing lying Hampshire's
So why on earth did she do this?
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Zelaya finish his term? And Obama and Hillary condemned the coup.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)"Clinton suggested using longtime Clinton confidant Lanny Davis as a back-channel to Roberto Micheletti, the interim president installed after the coup."
Outsourcing communications through a political ally who represents shady business interests....That's the kind of behavior that raises red flags. Maybe outsourcing is SOP, but the choice of messenger reflects the ties of ties to shady interests and represents the web of interlocking interests that makes some of less than enthusiastic about the Clintons.
cali
(114,904 posts)And her support for.a peaceful resolution was after the fact and after Zelaya had re-entered the country. There was a ground swell of support for him not just within Honduras but among South America's leaders.
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)The clue is in this sentence: "...Davis was working as a consultant to a group of Honduran businessmen who supported the coup." It's remarkably easy to trick our State Department with lobbying and disinformation tactics. We fell for it time and time again in the Middle East and Latin America. Sometimes it's difficult to know which side to support, as in the current debate over Syria, but our leaders usually plunge in anyway, often on the wrong side. We always feel the need to jump in and "do something" by supporting the rebels, or the existing government, or somebody. It's an artifact of our Cold War days, when we reflexively backed anyone opposed to the Soviet Union.
marble falls
(57,145 posts)convention. At least make her reasoning public if not clear.
cali
(114,904 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)NARAL ratings aside, hiring Khaleeji ultra-Salafists to attack Libya and then Syria was hardly the Up With Women or Pink Pride thing to do: but they just wanted to "give Putin a bloody nose" and thought it'd all be over in 3 months
but back to Central America: the camarillas behind and unleashed by the coup have killed around 200 peasants (who're pretty dark) and a hundred transvestites and transsexuals murdered: women's leaders are threatened daily and police use rape as an instrument of policy
and this is all being pinkwashed with crap like "she has boobs, she's the Women's Candidate" or "we AAs fear for our safety at Sanders rallies"
plus her approach to anyone who managed to get out? send 'em back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025116546
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251529053
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)SS does the presidents bidding