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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:16 AM Jan 2012

Rick Santorum: Left uses college for "indoctrination"

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum said Wednesday that "the left" uses universities to indoctrinate young people for the purpose of "holding and maintaining power."


After saying "we've lost, unfortunately, our entertainment industry," Santorum told a Naples, Florida, audience that "we've lost our higher education, that was the first to go a long time ago."



"It's no wonder President Obama wants every kid to go to college," said the former Pennsylvania senator. "The indoctrination that occurs in American universities is one of the keys to the left holding and maintaining power in America. And it is indoctrination. If it was the other way around, the ACLU would be out there making sure that there wasn't one penny of government dollars going to colleges and universities, right?"


He continued: "If they taught Judeo-Christian principles in those colleges and universities, they would be stripped of every dollar. If they teach radical secular ideology, they get all the government support that they can possibly give them. Because you know 62 percent of children who enter college with a faith conviction leave without it."

more if you can stomach it :
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57366219-503544/rick-santorum-left-uses-college-for-indoctrination/?tag=re1.galleries

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Rick Santorum: Left uses college for "indoctrination" (Original Post) maddezmom Jan 2012 OP
Let's do away with reality-based education! baldguy Jan 2012 #1
Look for the Religious Right to start a "Home Colleging" movement. (nt) JaneQPublic Jan 2012 #2
If they taught "Judeo-Christian principles".... izquierdista Jan 2012 #3
There are a fair amount of colleges teaching "Judeo-Christian principles" Nikia Jan 2012 #4
Ah geez. McCarthy in a sweater vest is still McCarthy. pinto Jan 2012 #5
Don't they teach Judeo-Christian principles . . . TomClash Jan 2012 #6
Threatened by critical thought are we? Turbineguy Jan 2012 #7
I see 'Ol Frothy is barking at the Moon again. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #8
So which is it Republicans? countingbluecars Jan 2012 #9
His plan is so brilliant and devious Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #11
Which college(s)? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #10
Alright. When is he going to drop out. It was entertaining to mock his bigotry and stupidity morningfog Jan 2012 #12
"the fiifth column of the insane" - to quote Frank Schaeffer's phrase Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #13
You really have to ask: Why Does Santorum Hate America? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #14
For its freedoms, of course! LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #21
Sorry, I want to learn things that are relevant and real... and-justice-for-all Jan 2012 #15
Well if universities are indoctrinations davidpdx Jan 2012 #16
I confess... ellisonz Jan 2012 #17
"Don't let your kids go to college... Kath1 Jan 2012 #18
Maybe not indoctrination, but higher education certainly doesn't make you smart DeeDeeNY Jan 2012 #19
Kind of like what the right wing does with churches, Little Ricky? Bake Jan 2012 #20
That's the whole idea and goal of conservatism... MANative Jan 2012 #22
Rick Santorum is so full of shit his eyes are brown..... Tippy Jan 2012 #23
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
1. Let's do away with reality-based education!
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:21 AM
Jan 2012

PI doesn't approximate 3.14159. The Bible say Pi EQUALS 3.2!

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
3. If they taught "Judeo-Christian principles"....
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jan 2012

we would still be in the Dark Ages, with maps that say "There be monsters" around the edges.

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
4. There are a fair amount of colleges teaching "Judeo-Christian principles"
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jan 2012

They are usually affiliated with a religious organization. Thousands of students use Federal financial aid to attend these colleges. Religious students can choose to attend these colleges.
I attended a non religious college and there was a variety of religious changes in students. Yes, some students did lose their faith. Some became non religious. Others converted to different religions, including various Christian denominations. Some who were never religious before became religious. More than anything that was taught in classes, I think that a lot of these changes were caused by exposure to people who believed differently than themselves. For many students, college is the first time in their life that they can be free to choose who they want to be rather than going along with the beliefs of their family and community.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
6. Don't they teach Judeo-Christian principles . . .
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 10:47 AM
Jan 2012

. . . at Fordham, Yeshiva, Brandeis, Georgetown, Notre Dame and many other schools?

In fact, can't you take theology/religious philosophy courses at just about every college?

Aren't there scores of postsecondary schools (i.e., Liberty) teaching conservative religious principles?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
8. I see 'Ol Frothy is barking at the Moon again.
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jan 2012

Anti-intellectualism runs strong through Fundamentalists because critical thinking skills and logic are the enemy of all revealed religions.

Keeping 'em stupid, fearful, and under the thumb of the religious hucksters is part and parcel of Republicanism.

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
9. So which is it Republicans?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jan 2012

Obama wants to keep people on food stamps or Obama wants every kid to go to college? What's the key to maintaining power? I heard both in the last week.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,438 posts)
10. Which college(s)?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jan 2012

Liberty University? Bob Jones University? Oh wait, he was referring to left-wing colleges. Which one(s) are those again?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
12. Alright. When is he going to drop out. It was entertaining to mock his bigotry and stupidity
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:59 PM
Jan 2012

for a while. It is getting disgusting. He should no longer have a position to spew his hate speech.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,368 posts)
14. You really have to ask: Why Does Santorum Hate America?
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jan 2012

That really is the only response possible to:

Santorum went on to encourage his audience not to "give money" to colleges and universities that he said are causing harm to the country.

"I'll bet you there are people in this room who give money to colleges and universities who are undermining the very principles of our country every single day by indoctrinating kids with left-wing ideology," he said. "And you continue to give to these colleges and universities. Let me have a suggestion: Stop it."


Really, telling people that education is evil and should be stopped is about the most harmful thing a candidate could do to a country. There's not even a "it's public taxes that you have no choice about" argument that a right wing fiscal hawk might make; it's a pure "knowledge is evil - don't encourage it" claim.

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
21. For its freedoms, of course!
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:22 PM
Jan 2012

Through the ages, one of the main things that tyrants and autocrats have had in common is the desire either to limit education to the elites, and thus to ensure that ordinary people 'stay in their place'; or, where this is not possible, or contradicts other goals like creating a high-tech society, to control and censor the content of public education so that the public only learn what the people in power want them to learn.

Access to uncensored public education is as much a key part of democracy as voting is. If elected, Santorum would attempt to bring America back to a pre-democracy age. I assume he won't be elected, but it is truly frightening that someone of his views has so much influence.

and-justice-for-all

(14,765 posts)
15. Sorry, I want to learn things that are relevant and real...
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:47 PM
Jan 2012

not why I should stone someone to death or that the Flintstones were real.

Theocracy, bad for the world.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
16. Well if universities are indoctrinations
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:27 AM
Jan 2012

as Santorum claims, then call me brainwashed.

I have:

BA Speech Communications
Masters in Business Administration

and...I'm currently working on a Doctorate of Business Administration.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
17. I confess...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 06:29 AM
Jan 2012

My college's unofficial motto was "Atheism, Communism, Free Love." Rick Santorum must think we're the devil.

I shit you not...

DeeDeeNY

(3,356 posts)
19. Maybe not indoctrination, but higher education certainly doesn't make you smart
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:26 AM
Jan 2012

Santorum is living proof of that. He holds a BA from Penn State, an MBA from the University of Pittsburgh, and a JD from the Dickinson School of Law.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/highly-educated-rick-santorum-comes-out-against-co

MANative

(4,112 posts)
22. That's the whole idea and goal of conservatism...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jan 2012

And why they do everything possible to limit funding for education at every level. Keep people ignorant, uneducated, uninformed, malleable, (you pick the next synonym!) and ultimately, controllable by the few who can afford to be educated - which at some point, will be only those in the top 1%.

I've always believed that the more educated one is, the more likely he or she is to be progressive or liberal. Knowledge, like the truth, tends to have a liberal bias.

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