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pnwmom

(108,991 posts)
1. Total guess: they enter the horse into competitions with prizes? And some years
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jul 2012

the horse wins and other years he doesn't. So the horse could be seen as a potential moneymaker, especially down the road, with stud fees.

As I said, this is purely a guess!

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
2. I feed two stray cats had them nuetered one is feral was not an easy task.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:48 PM
Jul 2012

I would like to take off at least $1.50 from my taxes for an estimated $300.00 in expenses this year.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
3. Are your cats a business that you reasonable expect to make you money?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jul 2012

That business may be showing them or breeding them. Or you might buy a $20k kitten in hopes of raising it and being able to sell it at $35k, only to have the bottom fall out of the cat market without its landing on all four feet.

Are your cats covered by some sort of loophole that Congress passed to encourage a socially or societally beneficial goal (real or perceived)? Perhaps you have "seeing eye cats"? Or you use them for classroom purposes, so your public school teacher exemption can cover them and you can deduct the cost of taking care of them from your gross income?

Then, sorry, no.

Now, if you start entering them into shows or using them in your business--models for an advertising campaign, training them to do tricks to entice people into your shop, then, well, sure. They're a reasonable expectation that they'll make you money. Expenses for them can be taken off your gross income.

It's an income tax, and the bulk of taxes collected are for earned or investment income or, conversely, expenses in order to increase earned or investment income or losses to assets that lost value instead of producing income.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
8. I am providing a neighborhood service in the vermin they catch.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jul 2012

Surely worth at least $1.50. Rmoney does make me snarky.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
4. whats even more amazing is it was a passive loss
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:21 PM
Jul 2012

I can't take a passive loss or realized loss on my home but they can take a passive loss on a horse.
Just not fair

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. 1%ers wrap their hobbies inside of profitable businesses
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jul 2012

(not sure of the legal entity that works. maybe subsidiary. maybe something else).

So they avoid the need to show a profit at the hobby, while reducing their taxes on the profitable business.

We had family friends when I was a kid who became 1%ers. They got into racing and had a string of racehorses that provided losses for their successful plumbing business, to reduce their taxes.

bottom line is that Rafalca is the property of a business entity (say subsidiary) that will never probably make a profit (unless they are able to sell her to another 1%er for a mint after the Olympics), but Rafalca's costs are expenses to the business entity that owns her subsidiary.




 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
9. My understanding is that it is an aggriculutural rule for maintenance and feeding costs.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jul 2012

Using it for show horses is like claiming my cat as a dependent.

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