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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:19 AM Aug 2015

The Incredible Shrinking Democratic Party.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/the-incredible-shrinking-_7_b_6228744.html

I don't agree with the end about the Democratic Party moving to the center. Center, far left, etc are just misleading labels.

A "center" Democrat is nothing more than a "Corporate" Democrat.

If the goal is to destroy the Democratic Party, they are doing a bang up job of it.

Note: This is a 2014 article but definitely worth a read.





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The Incredible Shrinking Democratic Party. (Original Post) Skwmom Aug 2015 OP
I see that, just reading DU this morning, anyone who does not support Hillary is not really a djean111 Aug 2015 #1
A fringe leftist is anyone who is for the 99%. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #2
The Democratic Party base now may actually be growing, but that shouldn't be misinterpreted... cascadiance Aug 2015 #3
This Democratic party is the most liberal in history. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #4
that may be true regarding social issues but it isn't true on economic issues cali Aug 2015 #5
Hear, Hear. EEO Aug 2015 #6
it actually isn't entirely that the democratic party is more liberal cali Aug 2015 #8
Been saying that for 70 years. Still doesn't make it true. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #9
the facts support it. period. cali Aug 2015 #10
We're edging uncomfortably close to institutional facism Armstead Aug 2015 #14
"Liberal" in the sense of "gives multinational corporations free reign". nt Romulox Aug 2015 #7
You're apparently living in an alternate reality whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #13
So liberal = corporate then? /t Skwmom Aug 2015 #15
"Centrists" take up positions previously held by Republicans AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #11
THis should be required reading Armstead Aug 2015 #12
Let me clarify. The article refers to moving to the center. I disagree with the use of the word Skwmom Aug 2015 #16
Frankly I think most people define the center as where they are Armstead Aug 2015 #19
Only 25% of Dems consider themselves both socially and economically liberal MaggieD Aug 2015 #17
It's a label. One with many interpretations. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #18
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. I see that, just reading DU this morning, anyone who does not support Hillary is not really a
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:29 AM
Aug 2015

Democrat.
Anyone who does not support Hillary is a fringe leftist, a tea-bagger, a RW troll, whatever.
Yes, the Democratic Party is shrinking, and that is the DNC's fault.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
3. The Democratic Party base now may actually be growing, but that shouldn't be misinterpreted...
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

... in to believing that the party is turning the corner yet in terms of its power structure being accepted and wanted by a large chunk of American voters with the growing Democratic base. It is more of a factor of independent Bernie Sanders entering the race, and many states people needing to be registered Democrats to vote for him in the primaries where their vote is critical.

Now what would be a very interesting study to analyze whether the party itself is what draws voters to it, or someone like Bernie running in the primaries is drawing people to it (along with the two party system minus something like instant runoff voting) would be to study the rates of people becoming registered Democrats or leaving the party state by state and comparing the open primary states (like Washington, California, and Louisiana) statistics with those that aren't.

If it is shown that the open primary states are staying stagnant or losing party members, and the closed primary states are growing party membership, then clearly people are becoming Democrats more now to vote for Bernie in my book, rather than endorsing what the current party leadership as exemplified by the actions of the DNC, etc. is doing. My bet is that this would be the case, since I do believe so many of us who are staying or becoming Democrats now are doing so to get Bernie in to revolutionize our system, not because we swallow what the DNC and other party leadership is throwing at us.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
4. This Democratic party is the most liberal in history.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:39 AM
Aug 2015

Especially after the purge of dixiecrats. The "moving to the right" meme is a myth.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. that may be true regarding social issues but it isn't true on economic issues
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015

When both parties are as deeply in thrall to corporate and big money interests as both parties are, we are edging uncomfortably close to fascism.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
6. Hear, Hear.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:50 AM
Aug 2015

We need a president who will fight for economic justice. That is not Hillary Clinton.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. it actually isn't entirely that the democratic party is more liberal
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 11:54 AM
Aug 2015

on all social issues, and it sure isn't on military/defence issues.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
14. We're edging uncomfortably close to institutional facism
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:01 PM
Aug 2015

Fusion of corporate power and state power, with democracy and individual freedom tossed into the dumpster

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
11. "Centrists" take up positions previously held by Republicans
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 02:24 PM
Aug 2015

Right wing Democrats is a more fitting term. Corporate Democrats works too.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
12. THis should be required reading
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015

Gu read my mind.

(And the end was not calling for a return to that corporate center. Just the opposite.)

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
16. Let me clarify. The article refers to moving to the center. I disagree with the use of the word
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:23 PM
Aug 2015

center. It is a misleading term. Clinton is a "Corporate Democrat" not a centrist.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
19. Frankly I think most people define the center as where they are
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

The problem is when it's misused as a label to sell something that isn't

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
17. Only 25% of Dems consider themselves both socially and economically liberal
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:27 PM
Aug 2015
http://www.gallup.com/poll/183686/democrats-shift-left.aspx

That's actually progress. But it is wrong to assume socially and economically liberal Democrats are even close to a majority. Should the party cease representing the other 75%?
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
18. It's a label. One with many interpretations.
Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:27 PM
Aug 2015

You have to read the ingredients before you decide to buy what's inside.

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