Breaking: #BlackLivesMatter Protesters Disrupt Hillary Clinton In Cleveland.

[Cali_Democrat]

Can we finally put to bed the notion that #BlackLivesMatter only attacks Bernie?

There is no conspiracy to only go after Bernie.

Today in Cleveland:

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http://fusion.net/story/190026/black-lives-matter-protesters-disrupt-hillary-clinton-stand-with-black-trans-women/

Black Lives Matter protesters disrupt Hillary Clinton: ‘Stand with black trans women’
by Jorge Rivas
August 27, 2015 1:44 p.m.

Black Lives Matters demonstrators shouting “say her name” disrupted a Hillary Clinton campaign stop in Cleveland on Thursday. The two women called on Clinton to “divest from private prisons and invest in the liberation of black transgender women.”

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The women said the disruption was part of a series of actions this week calling attention to the number of black transgender women who have been murdered this year. At least 20 transgender women have been killed this year, 14 of them black women. In nine of those cases, Fusion found last week, charges have been filed.

[jberryhill]

1. I see one woman shouting from behind a barricade

What was Clinton doing that was "disrupted"?

I don't see anyone disrupting anything.

[whatchamacallit]

5. Yeah true...

Was Clinton even speaking then?

[moobu2]

6. Hillary Clinton has secret service around her 24/7 because of who she is

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It inst her fault people cant get as close to her as they can Bernie Sanders. She's a former First Lady and a former Secretary of State so it comes with the territory.

[askew]

49. She has Secret Service protection ONLY because she is a former president's wife.

For Secretaries don't get lifelong Secret Service protection. You are trying to make her sound more important than she actually is. Nancy Reagan gets Secret Service protection too.

[GP6971]

84. Unless things have changed

Secretaries of State don't have Secret Service protection. The State Department has their own security details.

[bigdarryl]

87. As much people who hate this lady I think she would need Secret Service Protection even if she

Wasn't a former Presidents wife

[moobu2]

97. I'm trying to make Hillary sound more important by

stating her former positions? She was the first lady of the state of Arkansas, the First Lady of the United States, a U.S. Senator and the Secretary of State. She is important. I dont have to make her seem that way.

[riversedge]

8. via the OP--BLM called it a 'disruption"...

....The women said the disruption was part of a series of actions this week calling attention to the number of black transgender women who have been murdered this year

[jberryhill]

43. I don't care what anyone called it, I don't see anything being "disrupted"

[leftofcool]

72. Then for gawd's sake write to the author of the article and tell em how you feel!

Sheesh! All you have to do is send an email to fusion.net or whoever and complain about the word "disrupted."

[jberryhill]

75. Remarkably, I know bullshit when I see it, and have no need to report it to the bullshitter

Perhaps there are discussion forums on the internet where people can discuss things.

[still_one]

80. LOL, that was a good one.

[riversedge]

91. "I will certainly be happy to meet with you later, but I am going to keep talking."

"I will certainly be happy to meet with you later, but I am going to keep talking."

Hillary handled that well.

Tweets:

@danmericaCNN 22m22 minutes ago

Clinton in Cleveland: "Tamir Rice isn’t here either. He should be. He should be healthy. He should be alive."
22 retweets 7 favorites

Dan Meri ‏@danmericaCNN 21m21 minutes

HRC being interrupted by #BlackLivesMatter protesters: "I will certainly be happy to meet with you later, but I am going to keep talking."

[Iliyah]

111. Thanks!

[riversedge]

113. I looked but

have not seen any follow-up --yet. But she did notice and hear the protester and did respond.

[JI7]

46. because of secret service. But for some people they need some evil conspiracy

[jberryhill]

50. There's hardly anyone around the "disruptor" either

She's nowhere near an event of any kind.

Either that, or it is the thinnest "crowd" ever gathered, since it is not even filled one-deep at that barricade. Plenty of elbow room and no one in front of anyone else.

[AtomicKitten]

2. That's it? Get back to us when they shove her, call her names, and refuse to relinquish the mic.

[Control-Z]

14. You really want to see

Hillary Clinton shoved? That says so much.

[AtomicKitten]

17. Then quit trying to compare the events.

There is no comparison. I question if she was even there. No evidence on the video of her. Plus there appear to be only about 25 or so people in attendance. The "event" doesn't appear to be as it's represented here.

[Control-Z]

21. Doesn't make your statement about HRC

getting shoved any less disturbing.

[Garrett78]

22. Oh stop.

You know full well the poster wasn't advocating for her to get shoved. The point is simply this: Sanders was disrupted to a much greater extent, so it's not fair to compare these 2 events.

[Control-Z]

24. There really is no defense for the statement.

"Get back to us when they shove her, call her names, and refuse to relinquish the mic."

[Garrett78]

26. No defense is needed.

Again, the poster isn't advocating that she get shoved. To suggest otherwise is either disingenuous or stupid. Yet again, the point was obvious or it should be anyway. One more time: suggesting that Clinton has now been equally disrupted by BLM is absurd. That doesn't mean anyone is wanting to see Clinton get shoved. It simply means there's no comparison between the way she was disrupted and the way Sanders was disrupted.

[LondonReign2]

64. "To suggest otherwise is either disingenuous or stupid"

Yet somehow they don't think we can see through their game.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

99. It's not a statement that needs defending.

Anyone able to process the English language should understand that.

[Control-Z]

36. Oh, Garrett78, you've been here all of a week

and know so much already. That's adorable.

[Garrett78]

39. My length of time posting at DU is relevant how?

You don't have to be a long-time DU poster to employ common sense. If you seriously think the person was advocating that Clinton get shoved, you're a fool. If you don't really believe that but want to suggest that that's the case, you're disingenuous at best and corrupt at worst.

[TheFarS1de]

92. I'll take A....

Disingenuous for 50 points . Also since when does time hung out in a forum = greater political knowledge . It does seem to impart the appearance that some people need to get out and breathe some air .

[Dawgs]

52. Wow!

[cali]

23. I find it disturbing that you have no problem with a 73 year old being shoved

[Control-Z]

25. I never saw him shoved

but, yes I would have a problem with it. Or with shoving any candidate, for that matter.

The fact that it won't be good enough for you until Hillary does get shoved is the problem.

[riversedge]

85. well said. ...

I did not see him shoved either. He stepped aside.

[Cali_Democrat]

102. who shoved Bernie? nt

[wendylaroux]

29. lol nice try

[Vattel]

37. To suggest that AK was advocating shoving

Clinton is so absurd that it is hard to see why you think that any Hillary supporter would join you in the gutter and endorse your smear. Show some self-respect and self-delete.

[JI7]

48. they can't because of secret service

[Cali_Democrat]

101. when was Bernie shoved? nt

[AtomicKitten]

105. Not playing this game with you.

Bernie was shoved away from the podium by one of the young women ostensibly BLM in Seattle at the Medicare and SS event. You have a Google machine. Virtually all reporting substantiates this. You can't miss it, but if choose to pretend like it didn't happen as you are implying here, you will be ignored. I've had enough of the ridiculous efforts employed here to manipulate the truth. This isn't a game. Just knock it off.

[Cali_Democrat]

106. I saw the video. He stepped aside. He was not shoved.

Nobody shoved him.

You're mistaken.

[AtomicKitten]

107. No, you are and shame on you and the nasty

.... depths to which you are willing to stoop.

Sanders gave his talk to a cheering audience of about 12,000 inside a university pavilion a few hours after he was shoved aside by several Black Lives Matter activists who are calling for changes to the criminal justice system. Sanders eventually left the Saturday afternoon event at Westlake Park in Seattle without giving his speech.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b48101284a4e4db191c8561de634ad94/black-lives-matter-activists-disrupt-bernie-sanders-speech

The Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders was shoved aside by several Black Lives Matter activists and eventually had to leave an event in Seattle without giving his speech.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/09/bernie-sanders-sidelined-in-seattle-as-black-lives-matter-activists-invade-stage

After about 20 minutes, "Sanders himself was pushed away when he tried to take the microphone back,' KOMO reports. Eventually, the organizer of the event announced it was over and Sanders gave a clenched-fist salute to the crowd and waved goodbye.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/09/430919017/black-lives-matter-activists-commandeer-sanders-speech-in-seattle

Not much is yet publicly known about Johnson and Mara Jacqueline Willaford, the other activist who pushed Sanders aside to talk about police brutality — in the process launching a tsunami of press and social-media commentary across the country.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/not-first-disruptive-tactic-for-activist-who-hijacked-sanders-rally/

[Cali_Democrat]

108. Saying he was not shoved = nasty depths?

You know he was not shoved by the protesters.

Just accept reality.

[Cali_Democrat]

110. Again...there was no shove.

He stepped aside.

[whatchamacallit]

3. Awesome!

More of that. If anyone needs to be disrupted by BLM, it's Clinton.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. It's also awesome when Bernie gets disrupted by BLM, right?

It's about consistency.

[riversedge]

9. yuppers--an eye for an eye..

[riversedge]

7. "I will certainly be happy to meet with you later, but I am going to keep talking."

Hillary handled that well.

Tweets:

@danmericaCNN 22m22 minutes ago

Clinton in Cleveland: "Tamir Rice isn’t here either. He should be. He should be healthy. He should be alive."
22 retweets 7 favorites

Dan Meri ‏@danmericaCNN 21m21 minutes

HRC being interrupted by #BlackLivesMatter protesters: "I will certainly be happy to meet with you later, but I am going to keep talking."

[Bobbie Jo]

10. Good. nt

[arcane1]

11. I'm delighted to put that notion to bed, especially when they're after policies like private prisons

[Agnosticsherbet]

12. I applaud and support #Blaclivesmatter protests against all candidats.

True civil rights must come first.

Very, very good.

[Lint Head]

13. Why don't they protest the GOP who calls

African Americans thugs. I haven't seen it yet. Has it happened?

[randys1]

31. see my response below

[840high]

15. Are they shoving her? Looks very polite.

[jberryhill]

60. Clinton is not even there

[Starry Messenger]

16. It's all part of Agenda 26. Soros and Co. planned everything out to the last detail.

Mwahahahaha. You only *think* they are protesting HRC.

Seriously though, glad BLM is keeping the pressure on, and also highlighting the crisis of Black transgender women being attacked and killed. I remember one year when it seemed that one woman a day was being murdered.

[JI7]

58. the attacks on transgender women especially black women is a huge problem

[zappaman]

18. Sorry ,but they didn't punch her in the face like...

Those crazed, hysterical, unhinged women did to Bernie.
So no equivalent.

[Control-Z]

27. They punched Sanders in the face?

I saw angry, loud women but none that seemed crazed, hysterical or unhinged.

ETA: Or was that sarcasm? I can't tell anymore.

[zappaman]

79. Sarcasm

For all of those who cried "Bernie was assaulted!"
And those who have called those women every name in the book.

[Control-Z]

81. Thank you.

I honestly need this moment of sanity you just gave me.

[mcar]

34. Link?

[Luminous Animal]

53. Nobody punched Sanders in the face. He did get shoved, though.

[jfern]

70. And people are still defending those bullies

If they had done that to Hillary, Secret Service would have been completely unrestrained in stopping them, and they'd probably end up charged with something.

[RandySF]

19. I have no complaint

Nor would I call on the guard to "taze her", unlike others.

[msrizzo]

20. As a Hillary supporter....

I support BLM's right to disrupt and protest all they want.

[leftofcool]

65. Me too and she handled it well.

[sheshe2]

88. I agree with you on all your points.

I hope they show up often.

[underthematrix]

28. I know HRC is not bothered by it but I don't like it

[randys1]

32. What dont you like, people trying to not be killed for no reason?

[underthematrix]

71. I don't like disrupting an HRC event. HRC already met with the BLM

activists and they did an absolutely great job of responding to her challenge to frame the issues in terms of policy solutions. I don't know what purpose it serves to disrupt her speech. I fully support my BLM brothers and sisters but disruptive activism at a candidate's presidential event to the point where the candidate cannot speak is not okay with me. I think you contact her team scheudle a meetings and work with her team to incorporate BLM policy initiatives into her platform. Presidential candidates like Presidents work in a collaborative leadership environment. I think BLM needs some mentoring in this regard because I'm not sure they always understand the broader political landscape.

[randys1]

74. I think white people and especially white politicians ought be VERY grateful this is all

they or anyone is doing.

Non violent protest against tremendous violence.

[leftofcool]

76. + a gadzillion

[SouthernProgressive]

116. Simple and to the point. Thanks. nt.

[jberryhill]

77. Nothing got disrupted. Did you see the video of the "disruption" linked to the OP?

[underthematrix]

86. I did

[randys1]

30. Someone earlier was complaining that BLM only goes after dems, of course that isnt true

but if they primarily focus on Dems it makes WAY more sense.

1. cons hate them, period. will NEVER try to do the right thing

2. dems are likely to do the right thing even if they have to be pressured into doing it

3. more likely a dem will be next prez, all the more reason for BLM to target dems

[Senator Tankerbell]

35. Exactly right.

I don't know why it is so hard for some people to understand this. The activists involved in the previous disruptions have tried to explain this themselves in various interviews but some refuse to listen.

For example:

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And how do you respond to folks who say that, well, the Black Lives Matter now has been confronting several Democratic candidates, but the Republican candidates, of which there are many more, have largely been so far unscathed on the question of answering their policy issues in terms of the black community and of police violence and on mass incarceration?

DAUNASIA YANCEY: Yeah. But, well, every presidential candidate should expect to hear from us and expect to be held accountable. It’s actually a practice called "power mapping," where it’s similar to lobbying, where you actually map who’s closest to you on the issue and go to those folks first in order to force them to articulate their stance and then hold them accountable to it. So this movement is very strategic, and that’s what we’ve been doing.

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/8/19/when_black_lives_matter_met_clinton

[JustAnotherGen]

73. Plus 100

[SonderWoman]

42. Yup. Its obvious black lives do not matter to Republicans.

Their frontrunner just got endorsed by the kkk David Duke.

[hrmjustin]

33. And I support their right to protest.

And I am not going to act like a crybaby because my candidate got shouted at.

[aikoaiko]

47. How about passive-aggressive swipes at supporters of other candidates?

[hrmjustin]

54. I am also not going to make a fool of myself by claiming it was a conspired by one of my

Candidates opponents.

[aikoaiko]

61. That would make sense in this case, but I bet your glad there isn't

video of activists screaming in her face threatening to shut her down and then doing so.

[hrmjustin]

62. And I will not tell African Americans how the should feel about my candidate.

I Will Not target posters because they have questions about my candidate.

Btw my candidate has secret service protection so it would be very hard to get close to her.

[aikoaiko]

67. Of course you won't tell African Americans how they should feel because 80+% agree with you.

I think you've been targeting posters in this subthread who have questions about HRC.

BTW, you say HRC has Secret Service and that makes it difficult to get close, but #BlackLivesMatters stares down Ferguson cops with guns, dogs, and tear gas and were arrested. The Secret Service, as far as I know, have never killed or hurt a protester who got close to a sitting President. Heck, John Hinckley, was merely tackled.

The BLM activists at NN2015 and at Seattle risked arrest to make their point. Not so much in the OP.

[hrmjustin]

68. You think wrong. I am targeting no one.

If you have proof I am targeting posters then post it.


I am saying I am not going to make a fool of myself like others have on this topic.

[leftofcool]

66. I would have had no problem with that! Let them shut every candidate down!

[aikoaiko]

69. I cannot abide protesters preventing a group from assembling and speaking with one another.

[leftofcool]

78. I can.

[beam me up scottie]

55. Just when she's criticized here, right?

All some HC supporters do is "act like crybabies" because those horrible Bernie supporters just won't leave Hillary alone.

But it's perfectly acceptable for them to call Bernie a racist, misogynist, gun nut, draft dodger, etc.

[SonderWoman]

38. GEORGE SOROS!

[Vattel]

40. I never thought that Clinton wasn't potentially a target of a BLM disruption.

[aikoaiko]

41. What was actually disrupted? Is this like when BLM "disrupted" Obama at Selma?

[jberryhill]

51. Well, look at that HUGE CROWD around the "disruptor"

Either she's not even at an event, or it is the thinnest crowd ever gathered.

[whatchamacallit]

63. I agree, something's off with this

Has anyone come up with any other video? Surely there would be tons taken at a live event. I'd love to know what was happening contemporaneously on stage.

[mmonk]

44. Sure.

[Thinkingabout]

45. I doubt this will be posted about over and over, it is a part of campaigning.

[BainsBane]

56. Good, I hope they keep it up until something is finally done

to put an end to this horrendous epidemic of police killings of African Americans.

[ismnotwasm]

57. Of they did and of course they will

They are an incredible activist movement and I stand with #BLM

[jberryhill]

59. Clinton's reaction in that video is quite revealing

[ismnotwasm]

82. I'm glad you thought so

[jberryhill]

83. Considering she's not IN the video

[ismnotwasm]

90. Well yes, I had noticed that but I didn't want to point it out

[jberryhill]

95. Apparently, they disrupted her clean outta there!

[Juicy_Bellows]

89. Quick shot at whatever/whomever she appears to be disrupting.

There is a man in a suit - I don't see Hillary anywhere in the video.

[jberryhill]

96. "I don't see Hillary anywhere in the video"

Well then. You see how effective they were? They disrupted Hillary right outta there.

[Juicy_Bellows]

98. Perhaps I should post some of my rants in the shower.

I've managed to consistently disrupt Hillary out of my bathroom.

Cheers!

[romanic]

93. That was not a disruption.

It was more heckling than anything, call me when one of the BLM activists has the balls to go on stage in front of Hillary (and her SS). I'll be waiting at the phone (for what may be a while)

[jfern]

109. Of course they don't

SS would immediately take out a threat like those bullies in Seattle.

[BillZBubb]

94. Disrupting? LOL.

[OilemFirchen]

100. New bleat:

"Why doesn't BLM protest shove Hillary?

[demosincebirth]

103. The real culprits are the republicans. Why don't they disrupt their ralllys? I think they have

this backassward.

[TheFarS1de]

104. I got it ...

This is like a Where's Wally only we have to find the Politician ....... nope can't see the banded hat . Are you sure you got the right video ? Not a Clinton to be seen .

[eridani]

114. All I am seeing here is two videos that don't have any apparent relationship to each other.

One is a young woman shouting about the deaths of transgender women of color and private prisons. Both hugely serious problems that need shouting about and much more, but I'm not seeing any temporal link between what they are saying and any kind of campaign event. Looking at another video of Clinton giving a speech in front of an American flag background.

What is it that links the two videos? Are there other videos available that could show some kind of connection? Please post if so.

[winter is coming]

115. +1. Surely there's some video of this somewhere, even if it's just something

from somebody's cell phone.

[SouthernProgressive]

117. Keep fighting BLM. People are now listening.

This is beyond necessary and it's time to step it up.

First comment when I pulled up the second video.

"Bitch your fifteen minutes are UP.
You cut Bernie Sanders you cut your own fool self.
And reparations??? You better get in line, take a number and have a Coke and a smile honey because if ANY reperations were to be made, they would be made to NATIVE AMERICANS first."

This is what we are up against.