2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAn Open letter: Hillary, fire Debbie.
I know that in 2008, you were angry at mark Penn. You had all the money, all the connections, and somehow, Mark Penn and your husband managed to not only take your momentum away from you, but you lost. That was a prime example of the Democratic establishment not knowing how to sell you.
I hate to say it Hillary, your friends are killing you again. This time, it is Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She will not curry favor with Florida Democrats, namely because knees are still sore from the way she capped Alan Grayson, Tom Morgan, and Kendrick Meek, and the way she foisted on the return of Charlie "Chang gang" Crist. What is worse is the ham handed, utter not slick way she is limiting your debates.
Look, I will admit I will never be one of your rah rah fans, but even I know that you would DESTROY most opponents in debates. It would be one thing if you were running against a known orator, but you are not. O Malley, ask him about Baltimore, Sanders, ask him about BLM You could also protect yourself in case Biden runs because you will have made a fresh debut.
Of course you will not, because you like Debbie, even though, if you fail, she will be just fine, as she always is when the GOP is in control. When she does her bestselling book, she will backstab you justr like Penn did, blaming you for everything, even when THEY did all the decisions and spent all of YOUR money.
FIRE HER. Howard Dean or even James Carville could do a better job than Debbie even if they purposefully gave themselves a lobotomy with hand tools.
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Call the WH.
artislife
(9,497 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)The current head of the Democratic Party.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)that means that Hillary has to listen to debbie, right?
not to mention the fact that Debbie planned to paint Obama as anti-semitic and sexist should he fire her.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/senate-bid-could-be-solution-for-wasserman-schultz-115373
Wasserman Schultz has a different sense of herself. According to people who spoke with her, when she sensed Obama was considering replacing her as chair in 2013, she began to line up supporters to suggest the move was both anti-woman and anti-Semitic. Under fire last fall for her leadership, she took Obamas decision not to remove her then as evidence of renewed strength and said she was confident no one could get her out of the DNC before her term is over at the beginning of 2017, according to sources whove spoken with her. Shes also been known to joke around the office about how having a vacation home in New Hampshire might one day be helpful in a presidential run.
And I have little guess as to what sort of people would probably join that fray.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)So don't look for her to be replaced soon.
global1
(25,251 posts)that Obama is purposefully trying to sabotage Hillary's candidacy?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)however, I would expect him to keep Debbie accountable, just like I expect every democrat to..She is spending our money, and using our name, and after LOSING so bad, yes if we are not keeping her accountable, then we are sabotaging Hillary's run.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)make her feelings felt, and if she wants to have more debates where she demolishes people, then she can. Does anyone think she has to obey Debbie?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it is like sanders supporters demanding clinton make a statement about the blm dustup. not hers to do.
she isnt boss of dnc.
it isnt her role to speak at a disadvantage, or perceived disadvantage for others.
i think omalley needs the debate earlier. i leave it to him to fight, and if nothing happens which i do not imagine it will, do the best with what he got.
but to once again, assign a role to clinton cause you want it for your supporter, and then attack her for what you assigned to her, is unjust in my book. and once again, leaves me here discussing it, when i dont even want to.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Would be a great decision for Hillary to take a stance for more democracy.
But She won't. Oh well, coulda had more democracy via a more democratic head of the Democratic party. Real shame, that.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That comes after the convention in 2016. Don't like her? Support somebody else at that time and inform those delegates from your state.