I like Hillary and will vote for her.

[boston bean]

I will vote for her with enthusiasm.

I happen to really, really like her.

I think she is an exceptional person.

I think she is an honest person.

I think she has the ability and experience to lead.

I think that she is about one of the best candidates the Democrats ever had the chance to run.

I think she is a GREAT Democrat.

GO HILLARY!

[Cry]

1. If she is the nominee at the end, I'll be happy to vote for her

[DonCoquixote]

2. exactly

This is a primary, not a coronation.

[seabeyond]

21. why do we feel the need to say it is not a coronation? no one suggested or has been suggesting that

we say it only with clinton

i can say the same about sanders, but i do not. because there is no reason for it.

[DonCoquixote]

26. because from day one

here has been a Hillary is inevitable meme, that has NOT done Hillary any good, btw.

[seabeyond]

33. so. it does not even suggest anyone is saying she should not go thru a primary, merely

that people feel she is the inevitable winner, backed by facts.

that is not clintons fault she stands so strong, to be accused of insisting on a coronation. that is what we do with clinton that pisses me off and i am not even a supporter. we assign false shit to her and give it to her to own, when she has done nothing to earn the shit. and then blame her for it and tell all it does her know good. something WE created.

it is dishonest, unfair and well... i do not go for shit like that then i have to defend.

[brooklynite]

129. Care to share it with us?

only people I've seen saying "inevitability" are the anti-Clinton folks.

[Duckhunter935]

162. Seems kind of selective

Many pro Hillary have said many times Bernie should not even try as he will never win and only Hillary can and will. It is inevitable that she will be the nominee. Just different words, same meaning.

[brooklynite]

170. Then it'll be easy for you to provide examples...

[greatlaurel]

34. The use of the term "coronation" is a right wing meme against HRC. Please rephrase. Thanks.

A healthy primary debate is good for the candidates, the Democratic Party, and the American people. However, please promote the good things of the candidate you prefer without using right wing talking points attacking another Democratic candidate. Thank you.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. I am glad that you're comfortable with your choice. I feel the same way about Senator Sanders. n/t

[MissDeeds]

7. +1000000 n/t

[R B Garr]

10. You think that Bernie is a great Democrat?

Many of his supporters don't even know if he;s a Democrat. That;s nice that you like him regardless.

[cascadiance]

13. I think FDR would have liked him representing Democrats more if he were alive today!

[hifiguy]

18. The Kennedy brothers as well.

[Buzz cook]

70. Jack was well to the right of Sanders

The pre 11/64 Bobby would be to his right on some issues. Once Bobby was running for president he had moved pretty far left on social issues and on the war.

The Kennedy boys were likeable and so is Sanders. It doesn't follow that they would support him over any other candidate.

Someone else that like Bernie Sanders? Hillary Clinton, and guess what else Bernie Sanders likes Hillary Clinton.

[cascadiance]

81. So... Anyone else want a top marginal tax rate in the arena of 70% today besides Bernie?...

Though JFK lowered it from 90% levels, he at the same time got rid of a lot of tax loopholes so that the wealthy still paid a lot more in taxes in his day. Let me know when Clinton wants to raise the top marginal tax rate to what JFK moved it to.

[Buzz cook]

82. FDR would have beaten any modern politician up and

stolen the lunch money and they would have thanked him for the privilege.

That includes Bernie.

I don't think we need to go grave digging to get support for Bernie or anyone else.

[cascadiance]

89. I think it's important to use earlier icons like FDR to point out how in line Bernie is...

... with TRADITIONAL Democratic Party values that today's party has LOST with the DLC/Third Way takeover of its leadership.

FDR, who verbally welcomed the hatred of "economic loyalists" would not understand today's party of depending on them to get elected instead. Bernie is more in line with the traditional Democratic Party values of FDR's age than others running today for this party are. That is why it is not so important that he is a Democratic Party "member" today, but whether his value reflects what this party used to be when faced with similar challenges that FDR's Democratic Party faced in its day.

Like I said here before, if the Democratic Party makes more significant moves to rediscover its traditional values and wins in the election and makes it a party that Bernie (and so many of the rest of us too!) feel more at home with, I think he might lead the effort of getting more Americans, including himself to use that time to sign up as a member then, when the party reflects his and other traditional Democrats' values again. I think becoming a Democrat that way would be a far more powerful message than doing it now, and for some being viewed doing so as a "mechanical measure" to be accepted by current party leadership.

[AgingAmerican]

27. Yes, he is the ultimate Democrat

nt

[R B Garr]

32. Has he said this himself?

Or are you filling in the narrative.

[AgingAmerican]

49. He says it every day

...through his policies.

He is the ultimate Democrat. He is what the Democratic party used to be.

He is.....THE ONE!

[SoapBox]

68. [phone]

[Lorien]

132. Yes he is!

It's a shame that these post Reagan era kids don't understand that.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

110. Really doesn't matter how you want to describe him

He is what he is. And I like it!

[Lorien]

131. He's the best Democrat that has run for POTUS in decades

the ONLY candidate who understands and actually cares about the 99%, and the only honest person running. Sucking up to Wall street, big banks, wiping out the environment, pissing on workers, being pro war, flip flopping on the issues, giving answers like "you'll find out when I'm President" and behaving like an entitled jerk does NOT make anyone a "Democrat". It makes them just another destructive corporate hand puppet hellbent on sustaining the unsustainable status quo.

[Duckhunter935]

163. Better than the ones

That are owned by Wall Street

[DURHAM D]

4. In before the Jury Hide.

[boston bean]

6. maybe the alerter will write a reason why they think I violated some

community standard, this time.

LOL

[seabeyond]

22. lol. you funny. nt

[Thinkingabout]

5. Thanks for your post, yes she is all that, she is also the candidate the GOP does not want as the

Nominee. She has worked very hard for Democratic issues and will continue fighting for those issues.

[RoccoR5955]

28. Oh, I guess

that Sanders has not fought at all, or worked for democratic issues?
That is a snub if ever I have seen one!

[Thinkingabout]

134. Where is the snub?

[RoccoR5955]

149. Don't play that game.

You know where it is!

[Thinkingabout]

150. It isn't a game, I did not snub.

[mcar]

8. Me too

Love that photo!

[Duckhunter935]

9. Good for you

I do not and will have hold my nose if I decide to vote for if she is the nominee. My vote does not count but I will vote democratic down ballot.

[seabeyond]

23. puma, no. puma, no. hard to decide? lol. you know. that would be the very definition of a puma.

the sanders puma. interesting

[DonCoquixote]

29. no

because pumas offered to vote McCain, this guy is voting for Hillary, even though he/she admits they do not like her. Hillary will need to accept the votes of those holding their nose, just as Obama did from all theirs holding their nose back in 2008.

[RoccoR5955]

37. Just as many of us did.

I will no longer do this.
Either we get back our democracy, without the big money, or I am history.
I will either move overseas, and if I cannot, I can end my existence here, because people like me will mean nothing here in the US any more. Everything these days has become about money, money, money. If we don't get the money out of politics, we will choke on our money. Not me. I will end my time here one way or another if we don't get the money out of our government, and take it so much out of our lives.
People do not realize that capitalism is killing us, and Planet Earth. There are very few who have been educating people of this, and many of them have died. Perhaps it is my turn, if things do not turn out in the favor of the people, our environment, and out home planet.

[seabeyond]

39. move over seas, now doesnt that sound familiar. fuck lives lost... lol, if you do not get who

you want, you are out of here.

that is one thing i do say about the sanders supporters. it is all about self interest. for sure.

[RoccoR5955]

44. You didn't read my whole post, did you?

Otherwise you would know that it is not about self interest, because I have been working for the interest of WE THE PEOPLE for over 45 years now.
So get over it!

[seabeyond]

47. no, i did not read all. the cut and run, leaving repugs to take lives kinda does it for me.

ALL of us has been working for 'we the people' all our lives.

[RoccoR5955]

48. Ok I see your game here.

Cut and run huh? It figures.
And don't bother replying. You are on ignore.

[seabeyond]

51. not a game. what you said.

[PBass]

60. Now THERE'S a winning campaign slogan:

Bernie Sanders: Capitalism is Killing Us, and Planet Earth


Quote:

"I will no longer do this.
Either we get back our democracy, without the big money, or I am history.
I will either move overseas, and if I cannot, I can end my existence here, because people like me will mean nothing here in the US any more. Everything these days has become about money, money, money. If we don't get the money out of politics, we will choke on our money. Not me. I will end my time here one way or another if we don't get the money out of our government, and take it so much out of our lives.
People do not realize that capitalism is killing us, and Planet Earth. There are very few who have been educating people of this, and many of them have died. Perhaps it is my turn, if things do not turn out in the favor of the people, our environment, and out home planet."

[seabeyond]

38. he is contaplating not holding his nose and just not voting for her. that is why i said

puma, no; puma, no.

he is going back and forth whether he wants to step into puma, or hold nose

[truebluegreen]

103. He also said that (in his state?) his vote doesn't count

--maybe like my vote for Nader in 2000 didn't and couldn't make a rat's ass bit of difference in blood red Idaho.

[Duckhunter935]

156. I do not think

Oklahoma will go for Hillary or any democrat. So my vote for president will indeed not count.

[truebluegreen]

158. Exactly.

Some votes are more equal than others.

[Logical]

155. Me too, I plan on getting drunk election day and taking a cab to the polls. Want to join me? nt

[R B Garr]

11. Agreed, great post. n/t

[nichomachus]

12. It would help

If you had some facts to back up your statements.

Why is she exceptional? You think she's honest, when there is a load of evidence to the contrary. No GREAT Democrat would conspire with Wall Street to screw working people. What is her experience that would make her a great leader? She was a first lady who failed miserably at her one big job. She was parachuted into NY to get a seat in the Senate, where she pretty much just took up space. And her stint as SecState was disastrous.

Best candidates the Democrats have ever run. I can think of 10 off the top of my head who were 10 times better than her.

[PBass]

67. Wow, couldn't disagree more.

I never found Hillary to be disingenuous. I thought she was a very good Secretary of State. I thought she was very good in the Senate (minus the Iraq War vote) and I'm a New Yorker. She was an excellent 1st Lady (remember when she coined the phrase "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"? I do!!) Her efforts on Hillary Care are also greatly appreciated. She's been attacked by Right Wingers pretty much her entire career (and now sadly, the Left).

Bernie Sanders says he likes Hillary, and he refuses to attack her. His supporters could learn something from Bernie's tact and diplomatic nature.

[OnyxCollie]

105. Plenty of subjective reasons to support Hillary.

Not so many objective reasons though.

[RoccoR5955]

14. I live in NY

Whoever is the Democratic candidate will win my state.
Therefore, I shall not vote for someone who is second best.
It is of my opinion that Hillary is good, but Bernie is Better.
I do not like the fact that many have Clinton ordained as the candidate, a year before the primary.
I see all of her policies being the same or similar to Bernie's, only coming after Bernie has stated said policy.
I have met Clinton when she was running for Senator, and found her quite aloof.
I have met Sanders, and he seems like a genuine person.
I want to have a genuine person in the White House.
I also do not think that Clinton is a real Democrat. In my opinion, she is a Democrat in name only.
To that end, if Clinton is nominated, I shall stay home.

[R B Garr]

16. Yet in a short time in the national spotlight, Bernie snubbed some BLM activists,

and there are at least two clips of him on this site alone where he has told constituents to "shut up" and one where he walked out because he was pissed at some questioning.

He's no saint, himself, and he hasn't even really been tested. He's had it easy.

[RoccoR5955]

19. Told constituents to shut up?

Where and when?

You think that Bernie has had it easy? Try running a campaign. Any campaign. It is certainly not easy.

[R B Garr]

25. You can Google the thread titled, "Excuse Me! Shut Up!" says Bernie to his constituents.

It's dated May 7, 2015 by the author of this OP. I don't want to link it, but it's easily found. The exact exchange starts around the 3:23 mark, or so...

[RoccoR5955]

31. Context here

is everything.
If it was any other candidate, the hecklers would have been arrested and thrown out. Instead Bernie said, "shut up." Big freakin' deal! It's damn side better than getting arrested!

[R B Garr]

36. Well, you provided no context to "Hillary is aloof," so...

Sorry, it's just kind of difficult to take some of this Hillary criticism seriously, now especially that you say it's okay for Sanders' to tell his constituents to shut up.

[seabeyond]

40. of course. it is all in the context, or candidate. he is going over seas anyway,

so he does not have to live with the republican rule.... boggles the mind.

[RoccoR5955]

43. I said that I met her.

And she was aloof. Do you want a video of when I met her and she was running as senator? I don't have that.
You never get a sense of a person when they shake your hand, and greet you? When you ask them questions, and how they answer them?
I think that it this is the issue, than some of us have a bit more life experience to catch up on.
So give me a break already.

Then again, perhaps you did not understand my statement.
What I was getting at was that if someone heckled Clinton, or any other candidate for that matter, in the same way that Sanders was getting heckled, they would have been arrested and thrown out. I also said that telling someone to shut up, was a lot better than getting arrested. What part of that do you not understand? Bernie was being more humane by not having the person ejected and arrested.
Do you think that Clinton would stand for that? From what I have seen of her campaign when she was running for Senator, I don't believe so. And no, I don't have any video of that either. You will just have to believe me.

[seabeyond]

50. "And she was aloof."really, who the fuck cares. i am not buddies with these people, or having a beer

with any of them. i am hiring for a job. why in the world would it matter to you if she pal'ed with you or not?

bush would rub your head, give you a stupid ass insulting nickname to pal with you

is that the qualification for a pres?

[PBass]

71. So Hillary is aloof and that sucks, but Bernie saying "Shut Up!" is acceptable. Got it. (NT)

[RoccoR5955]

119. Clinton would have them arrested. Okay, so what is worse? n/t

[Thinkingabout]

127. There were some people who wanted the BLM arrested in Seattle.

[Starry Messenger]

139. And tazed. (nt.)

[Thinkingabout]

140. Yes I forgot about that.

[RoccoR5955]

147. Yeah, some were even

shot dead. I think about 100 of them.

[okasha]

141. BLM interrupted Hillary's speech at a rally a couple days ago.

No one was arrested.

A lot of what you don't like about Hillary seems to be your own imaginings.

[RoccoR5955]

148. No, they were "escorted" out

And never heard from again.
Funny things happen to people who are protected by the Secret Police!

[FloridaBlues]

101. He's had it very easy wait till the media and republicans go for him .

His supporters heads will explode. But it seems ok for Nasty slime towards Hillary.
Just don't touch Bernie.

[seabeyond]

102. "His supporters heads will explode" yes, yes yes, and yes. nt

[Cry]

107. Please...please... take off your blinders

Watch Bernie tomorrow on either This Week or The State of the Union.

Hostile territory - watch.

[seabeyond]

109. i could say the same to you. how condescending is that? certainly not respectful of another. nt

[Cry]

121. I'm just merely pointing out that he can handle Republicans..

better than Clinton will ever do.

I'm just saying...

[seabeyond]

122. lmao... clinton has "handled" repugs for two decades and that is what pisses them off so.

[Cry]

123. And?

Her favorable numbers do not look very promising.

[ismnotwasm]

124. Sure they do

Of course time will tell

[Cry]

138. She had her unfavorable jump 19%

in a month.

No Democratic candidate with such high unfavorable has ever been nominated.

[KMOD]

126. HRC has been kicking repuplican ass for decades.

Welcome to DU.

[AgingAmerican]

53. And this is what they believe will save Hillary

Throwing racist stink bombs. Clinging to 'Super Delegate' hope. Crying that Bernie isn't a Democrat. Whining about New Hampshire. Etc, etc, etc.

Anything but the issues.

They are definitely Feeling the Bern. It's their way of admitting that HE IS THE ONE!

[R B Garr]

55. The "issues" as defined only by Sanders supporters are not the only issues,

so it looks like you've been avoiding them as well. The 'issues".

It's important to keep things in context.

[AgingAmerican]

65. Obfuscation fail

It's pretty obvious you are FEELING THE BERN!

Here, let me help you with that...

[seabeyond]

72. it is tiresome your continued need to define and assign emotions to other people.

[AgingAmerican]

74. Bernie IS THE ONE

Don't believe me? See my sig line.

[seabeyond]

76. now, see? that was funny. i can appreciate funny.

[R B Garr]

73. lmao, yeah, old context problem again.

Thanks for the fire truck picture! How completely relevant.

Well, sorry, but I don't have a lot of time to trade silly pictures. Have a great day.

[AgingAmerican]

79. But, but...

Vermont and liberalism, and 'shut up', and "liberal white supremacists', and throwing stink bombs, and his hair is all messy, lots of other real issues that Hillary supporters are deeply concerned about!

[RoccoR5955]

120. Some folks believe that these are issues

Yet they ignore the REAL issues. I guess that they throw their support to the person with the better hair too.
Well, the RepubliCONs have their low information voters, I guess the Democrats have their's as well.

[R B Garr]

160. Issuies...like Hillary being a murderer? That issue? That's floating around here.

Hillary is aloof. Yes, indeed...issues.

[RoccoR5955]

166. Well, Clinton did vote to have folks murdered

in Iraq, didn't she?

[R B Garr]

169. Are you saying the 4 Americans she murdered in BENGHAZI .

are not an "issue?

[R B Garr]

159. So another fire truck picture, and more things out of context.

There's a reason (or many) Bernie hasn't run for national office before now after 40 years in office. It's not hard to figure out why, but you enjoy your fire truck pictures..

[RoccoR5955]

167. Wait a minute

I guess that Senator or Congress are not National Offices. Sheesh!

[R B Garr]

168. Wait a minute. I thought Sanders wads running for President.

It's President, no?

[seabeyond]

56. throwing, clinging, crying, whining. ya... it is those other people.

[seabeyond]

24. another puma. i tell you, this election season is THE most interesting. nt

[Iliyah]

15. Me toooooo!

[rogerashton]

17. I will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, and I expect she will be.

But I would like to feel better about it. I would like to be given some reason to feel better about it.

A meme from the DNC meeting is that she would build the party, supporting down-ticket candidates, with the seeming implication that other candidates would not or could not. But my memory from Bill Clinton's presidency is that he was not a party-builder, just the contrary. Perhaps I am wrong, and anyway Hillary is not Bill, but can anybody give me reason to think that a second Clinton administration will build a stronger 50-state Democratic party?

Come on, Hillary supporters -- help me out here. Give me some reason to join you.

[SunSeeker]

87. She is the only candidate I trust will use the bully pulpit to truly fight for women.

Women, who make up over half the population, have been ignored for far too long.

Of course, there are many other reasons. I agree with all of the reasons listed here: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/24/why-hillary-clinton-should-win-the-2016-election-commentary.html

[seabeyond]

91. this is really important, as dismissive a lot of men like to be about voting body parts...

insulting that it is. to actually use the "bully pulpit to truly fight for women." is a significantly HUGE reason to vote for this women. a forever history of never having this. to one have it. damn straight it is important.

[rogerashton]

136. OK. Certainly the first woman president would be a step forward.

Realistically, she would face the same dilemma that Obama faced as our first president of color -- she would be president of the whole country. Nevertheless, whatever her stands on issues, as a probably-electable woman, she holds out an important promise. And I'm persuaded that she would fight, that she is tough. Tougher than Obama, I have felt all along -- considering that she has survived the long record of dirty tricks by her Republican opposition.

But the cnbc commentary does not encourage me. Basically, it says that she has a great resume -- but that, I'm sure you understand, is where some doubts arise. It seems that Hillary will go where the wind listeth -- at least, on issues that are not specifically women's issues. Now, that's not surprising. The same could be said of most successful politicians. But it leads me to the conclusion that, given that Hillary is probably our alternative to a disastrous Republican administration, we need to be doing what we can to keep the wind blowing in a progressive direction. As Reverend Wright said about Obama, once he (she) is elected, we have to hold his (her) feet to the fire. Unfortunately, we didn't do that with Obama. As for me, I'm going to keep dancing my wind-dance as hard as I can. And that means, feeling the Bern.

Let's see -- the OP was in GD Primaries, so that shouldn't offend anyone.

[SunSeeker]

137. No, what is offensive is you pretending to be undecided and wasting my time.

You did not want reasons for voting for Hillary. You were looking for just the opposite.

[rogerashton]

145. Let's think about that.

It's true that I am not undecided. I am definitely committed to vote for Hillary in the general election if she is the nominee, and I asked for reasons to feel better about it. As to the primaries, my commitment is not unconditional. I can certainly envision circumstances in which I would vote for Hillary in our late primary, although, as a democratic socialist, I am currently supporting Bernie. (I have also voted a straight democratic ticket in every general election since 1980.)

I must confess, though, that I was curious about the arguments a Hillary supporter would make to a person who would be uncommitted as you mean it, because we don't ever see that. The pro-Hillary OPs I have been reading in GD-P are vacuous -- "I like Hillary because I like Hillary" without even a "you should like Hillary too."

My colleagues in the marketing department tell us that to make the sale, "you tell the prospect why it is good for her or him, not why the deal is good for you." In that spirit, and so you won't be completely wasting your time, let me suggest the pitch you might want to make to a borderline Berniac like me:

"Look, Bernie's idealism is admirable, and it's amazing how he can get it across, despite the fact that it is pretty hard for an ordinary person to understand. I'm certain that Hillary is no less committed to the same progressive values, to equality for all people, but she is a successful politician and understands that success in politics requires both hard fighting and compromise. Like any successful politician, she has some compromises on her record. But she understands that the hard fight comes first, and she will fight for our values. If you doubt the Hillary is committed to human equality, look at the trust that people of color and other minorities have for Hillary. This is not something negative about Bernie. It's positive. They trust Hillary's commitment to human equality. You should too."

"Of course, as a woman and a feminist, Hillary's commitment to women, and the fact that she is both a woman and a candidate for the highest office, are important to me. If you are committed to human equality, they should be important to you, too. After all, we can never have real equality while women are held down -- John Stuart Mill understood that, and so did Friedrich Engels, if that means anything to you. "

"Idealism doesn't get us anywhere if it is not backed by power. Hillary understands how to back her commitments with power. That's what we progressives need in the White House and down the ticket. Hillary is in the lead because most progressives and most Democrats understand that she is the one who can deliver that, but the greater the number who back her, the greater the power will be. That's why we need you -- and you need us."

Please feel free to use if you wish -- but don't credit it to me. Berniacs will accuse me of selling out. Of course, they will have counterarguments -- some of us are quite good at argument -- but I don't think you can improve much on that pitch. I suspect I will be making it myself in a year.

[seabeyond]

20. me, too. all you say. though now i root for omalley, STILL ... me too, to all you say.

kinda odd. but then, that is me.

[greatlaurel]

30. Clinton's work for the Ground Zero workers won me over a long time ago.

The news media gave those senate hearings very little coverage, but those of us who worked in asbestos regulation saw reams of testimony and evidence that HRC was instrumental in exposing the Bush administration for needlessly exposing thousands of people to the toxins generated by the collapse and fires of the towers.

She did not have to do all the work she did for those workers since hardly anyone noticed, but she did the right thing anyway.

[seabeyond]

41. _1. good ot know. nt

[RoccoR5955]

46. Yeah, and I bet

that some of us will back her going to another war based on ill-advise from the Military Industrial Complex.

[BooScout]

35. She has my vote!

And I love your meme!...gonna snatch it for later if you don't mind.

[artislife]

42. Not one issue addressed

another love letter from a fan, I guess.

[seabeyond]

52. "fan", "love letter". wtf?

[artislife]

57. There has been a call from H supporters to OP on the issues

I guess there are some H supporters who can't.

[seabeyond]

59. love letters and fan is to insult and dismiss. that was your only purpose. bbs post was perfectly

fine addressing issues being thrown at clinton.

she didnt piss in your cheerios. you were the one. and for no reason.

[artislife]

63. What issues? I mean the ones we vote on?

It is an insult to insist that Bernie supporters OP on issues only and not mention character traits.

[seabeyond]

69. oh bullshit, we have seen plenty of bernie on character... like probably still on the front page

and who is demanding only specific issues?

look, this might be a battle i am totally aware of. or this is bogus and created, i do not know.

declaring that bb thinks clinton is

honest, seems to be a HUGE campaign issue for sander supporters

declaring that hillary is an excellent democrat is a HUGE campaign issue with sanders supporters

the same with

liking her, since many declare she is unlikable
an exceptional person since many declare she is the worst person in the world
enthusiastically, since many sander supporter state no one is really enthusiastic about clinton
ability and experience certain does factor in

i dunno

[artislife]

83. Issues

seem to me to be
Monsanto
Climate
Banks
Citizen United
TPP
Renewable energy
Mass Immigration
WAR
etc

[seabeyond]

85. when rw and sanders supporters make honesty, real democrat an issue, it is an issue.

a fake issue, but an issue that has to be addressed

[artislife]

88. ...

[seabeyond]

93. you do not think honesty is an issue for clinton created by rw and picked up by sanders supporters?

something so simple as that make your eyes spin in confusion?

[seabeyond]

62. btw... i am clueless about any call to do anything. so i am ignorant on that part. nt

[artislife]

64. Your words.

[seabeyond]

75. yes. my words.

[Lorien]

130. Exactly. They love style

not substance.

[Vinca]

45. If she's the candidate in the general, I'll vote for her.

Until then, I'm still rooting for Bernie.

[thebighobgoblin]

54. I'm basically in Hillary's camp

Is she perfect? Maybe not, but I don't care. We don't need perfection. We don't even need to love Hillary. We just need her to win.

In almost every job you can think of, the main question is, 'what kind of experience do you have?'

Yet when it comes to the presidency we seem to want to hire novices. I don't mean that as a shot at Obama, whom I voted for because I assumed that he would surround himself with experienced handlers, which he did. But I still think Hillary, in a lot of ways, would have been better. And I think we'd be a dumbshit country not to hire someone with her experience at a time when we desperately need experienced, intelligent, crafty people.

Voting for Hillary would still be a major, major step forward for this country. A progressive move of the highest order to tell a generation of women that they really can be trusted by society to hold the highest office in the land. Beyond that, does anybody want another McGovern representing the progressive voting bloc? Does anybody want to hand over control of foreign policy, economic policy, labor rights, and perhaps another two supreme court justices to the GOP?

It's not even just about Hillary's qualifications at this point; it's about defeating a horribly incompetent and irresponsible group of people and making sure we limit the damage they inflict on this country. I understand and respect the passion of Bernie's voters and i think there's definitely a place for him in the administration. But he will lose a national election, and I suspect rather handily.

[seabeyond]

78. "We don't need perfection." not gonna find it so we had better not need it. for sure. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

58. I will support her enthusiastically if she is the nominee.

If she dramatically shifts gears in the way she approaches campaigning, answering questions, etc. and starts laying out bold. concrete stands on some potentially controversial issues that she has heretofore avoided, I may even support her in the primaries.

Indications so far are that she will run exactly the campaign I expect her to, which I find -personally- uninspiring. YMMV. Given that, it is likely I will support a different candidate in primary voting.

I remain undecided, however... of course it is still early.

[seabeyond]

80. well. i am looking forward to the debate to hear from both sanders and clinton that has not been

addressed on the campaign trail for sure.

good ole omalley though has about said it all, repeatedly, specifically, pen on paper. lol. he is not leaving a lot fo questions, anywhere. which is its own kinda fun. he is about shining at the debates, and that is about it.

a 'look at me, look at me' i see with one of his smiles as he talks easily and openly about it all.

good to hear warren.

[Warren DeMontague]

99. Indeed.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish we could expand our demographic bench. I don't think our party is helped when all our selections are East Coast baby boomers, etc.

But it is likely that the choices won't expand much beyond what we have today- I've elaborated at length as to why Biden doesn't particularly appeal to me- and as such I'm def. receptive to what O'Malley's got to say as well as Clinton and Sanders.

And of course it's important to remember that even though primary season is always a mess, we're all on the same team.

[seabeyond]

104. omalley has a decade on clinton and more on sanders as far as youth. the first comment

from y oldest, that really spends a lot of time listening, not deciding, was sanders is too old and need someone that is gonna address this generation issues. he does not have the confidence in sanders. more comfortable with clinton. but, i think that is the draw, of many, for omalley. is the younger and more energetic appeal.

[ismnotwasm]

111. He is a close second choice for me

Very close. I admire and respect Hillary and think she would be the best president, but damn, O'Malley is the real deal as well. I'd love to see him as VP as least.

[seabeyond]

114. watching. this is what i find fascinating about omalley. he has placed himself as a fav second

choice with both the sanders and the clinton crowd. looking at strategy, that is not a bad place to be. stay in the fight and when one sees an inevitable loss on one side, can get those votes.

it is interesting

everyone i have talked to have said he is the second choice.

[mountain grammy]

61. I'm voting for Sanders in the primary and, hopefully, in the general.

If Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, I will vote for her, and I will not have a problem with that. Will you vote for Sanders if he wins the nomination?

If a Republican wins the White House, and they keep control of the House and Senate, I will seriously consider leaving America.

[seabeyond]

84. mountain grammy. this has been asked so often, and i can honestly say i have heard only one that

implied they would not vote sanders if he won, and my guess is that is not her reality.

all supporting others, will enthusiastically be in sanders camp, helping to push him as our candidate, i believe and from what i have heard over the months.

[mountain grammy]

94. We have to support each other, seabeyond.

I'm glad for a robust and lively primary. We have the best, most intelligent, most qualified candidates and, hopefully, our primary will bring enthusiastic Democrats to the polls. I'm afraid we're running out of time to turn America around. I know I'm running out of time to see it happen.

[seabeyond]

95. i am perfectly with you mountain grammy. you support sanders, me? omalley. bb, clinton.

it is all good.

[lovemydog]

66. That's cool.

I like her too.

I also like Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders.

I feel that if we had more folks like them, there's few limits to what we can accomplish.

[seabeyond]

86. totally agree. we have a great batch of democrats to enjoy this campaign season with. nt

[lovemydog]

100. Yay!

Thank you for your kind words seabeyond.

I hope you're enjoying a nice weekend. I'm about to grill some food on my new barbecue. My mouth is starting to water already just thinking about what I'm going to get at the store!

[seabeyond]

108. i want to come to your house. i always have good weekends. i am just a generally happy person, lol

enjoy your bbq

[lovemydog]

143. A good time is always guaranteed at my house.

Thanks, had a wonderful bbq. Hamburgers with fresh tomato & onion, yummy mashed potatoes with butter & garlic, corn on the cob so sweet it didn't need anything else on it, white layer cake with chocolate & vanilla ice cream. I'm stuffed.

Hope you're having a great weekend too.

[ismnotwasm]

113. +1000

[PBass]

77. I'll probably vote for Bernie in the primary, but I think Hillary rocks.

I never got the criticism like "shrill" or "disingenuous" or "calculating"... I have liked her since she was the First Lady.

[OhWiseOne]

90. Hillary is the only dem that can win the general election

If Sanders is the nominee we will have a repub president. The next president will pick at least 2 new Supreme Court Justices. We should not be taking any chances that a repub can do that.

[Stainless]

125. You're Foolish Yet, OhWiseOne

Eight years ago, people had the same assurances about Hillary and Obama.

[tularetom]

92. I'm torn between voting for her in the general election

So I can say "don't blame me" when she loses (which she almost surely will)

Or

Not voting for her so I can say "don't blame me" if she wins and turns out to be the disaster I expect she would be.

[seabeyond]

97. so. puma, not puma. puma, not puma. i know. hard decisions to be made.

[ProgressiveJarhead]

96. I Like Hillary Too and Admire Her

But I won't vote for her in the primary. I will in the general if I have to.

[ismnotwasm]

98. K&R

[Stainless]

106. So what's your point?

I will vote for her too if she wins the nomination, but I think there are better progressive choices.

[billhicks76]

112. WOW

Gullible much?

[seabeyond]

115. insulting and codescending ...

[billhicks76]

116. It's Called An Opinion

Do Hillary supporters allow those anymore?

[seabeyond]

118. an opinion wrapped up in an insult. i dunno, you would have to direct your question to a clinton

supporter.

pretty sure that is not a problem. but the reality is, you merely insulted.

[Gothmog]

117. I will also vote for her

[Lorien]

128. Just how young are you, and how big is your trust fund?

She's not a liberal or a Progressive, she's the hand puppet of the corporate elite. Her policies will destroy our environment, our health, and end worker's rights. I'll vote Green before voting for GOP not-so-lite!

[whatchamacallit]

135. That's nice

[colsohlibgal]

142. She Has Been A Great NEO Democrat

We need a great progressive, we need to veer away from the corporate Wall Street wing.

We need Bernie not Hillary.

It just seems like some just like Hillary but cannot point to policies, they just like the idea of voting for her because she is.....she.

[Thinkingabout]

151. What is a NEO Democrat?

[ellisonz]

144. I'm with you.

She will knock the GOP senseless.

[davidn3600]

146. The 1%, Wall Street, and the DNC establishment loves her too

But polls show most Americans don't trust her.

[bigwillq]

152. That's cool. I support your choice.

I don't like Hillary and will not vote for her.

[Martin Eden]

153. I don't trust Hillary Clinton on foreign policy or Wall Street reform

Her vote to give GW Bush authority to invade Iraq is inexcusable and unforgivable. Same goes for John Kerry and Joe Biden. If they really believed Bush would act in good faith and let the UN inspectors call the shots, they are fools who shouldn't be anywhere near the reigns of power. No. They were either on board with the neocon agenda or they stuck their fingers in the political winds of the time and decided it was better for their political careers to be war hawks rather than stand up and tell the American people they were being fed a pack of lies and Bush was misleading our country into a costly disaster.

Her close ties to the big players on Wall Street gives every indication she has no intention to change the rules of a game rigged in favor the same schemers who crashed our economy and got bailed out while average Americans lost their homes and livelihoods.

The only way I will vote for Hillary Clinton is in the general election if my state is in danger of flipping to whichever Rethug emerges from the clown car. I live in Illinois.

[Logical]

154. LOL, well OK, I guess I will alert the media. What an odd post. nt

[riversedge]

157. Thanks for the post. Much needed at this time.

[Autumn]

161. I like Bernie and will vote for him.

I will vote for him with enthusiasm.

I happen to really, really like him.

I think he is an exceptional person.

I think he is an honest person.

I think he has the ability and experience to lead.

I think that he is about one of the best candidates the Democrats ever had the chance to run.

I think he is a GREAT Democrat, in fact better than most democrats.

[boston bean]

164. how original! Imitation is the greatest form of flattery!

[Autumn]

165. I thought your OP was cute Bean, simple and elegant.

I just improved it. Most things in life can usualy be improved upon.