Another Batch of Clinton's Emails Expected to Be Released Monday (Today)

[morningfog]

A new batch of Hillary Clinton's State Department emails are expected to be released Monday afternoon. The democratic presidential hopeful has been under fire in the past few weeks over using a private email server while she was Secretary of State.

http://www.abc22now.com/news/top-stories/stories/Another-Batch-of-Clinton-39-s-Emails-Expected-to-Be-Released-Monday-192921.shtml

[BlueJazz]

1. I plan to read all of them..as soon as the Aliens from Corzza turn my car into a Rolls-Royce.

[BlueMTexpat]

2. Why does this continue to be news

on a Democratic forum when it is a faux scandal about one of the Democratic candidates?

The question that people SHOULD be asking - and that no one is that I have seen - is why the USG has such effed-up IT infrastructure in the first place. Because this effed-up USG IT infrastructure is now, was then, and will remain a problem in good part due to the privatization of those functions to different IT contractors, each of which has its own agenda.

When Clinton was SoS, the Department's IT system was problematic - to say the least - which is why Clinton, along with Condi Rice and Colin Powell before her also had private email accounts. The IT system may have improved since, but I am willing to venture that it has not improved anywhere near to where it should be even now.

Blame the system - which deserves it - and work to get the system changed and improved. But please leave the going after Hillary to the GOPers on this issue. They have it well covered.

[morningfog]

3. It continues to be news because the "leading candidate" had and has such poor judgment.

She gave her opponents a gift that keeps on giving.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. It's an interesting double standard

Why no FOIA requests from former Secretaries Of State Powell and Rice?

I would like to know the discussion re: the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and 9-11.

[morningfog]

9. Are you susggesting those FOIA requests were never made? I would find that impossible to believe.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I have no animus against Colin Powell...He endorsed Obama and defended Hillary's ...

I have no animus against Colin Powell. He endorsed Obama and defended Hillary's use of a private e-mail as he did...

I do find it interesting he used a private e-mail account and deleted all his e-mails on the way out the door.

Common sense suggests whatever percentage of so called classified e-mail existed on Hillary's private e-mail account existed on his.

[Sivart]

13. Im an IT guy.......

and i am genuinely curious.....what specifically are the issues with the department's IT system? What are the issues that are specific to email?

[stevenleser]

30. There was virtually no way to access the state.gov email remotely. And since most SecStates are

remote most of the time... you do the math.

[Fawke Em]

40. I find that extremely hard to believe.

Does the government not understand dual authentication secured VPNs?

[stevenleser]

41. Then research it yourself. This is well known. See the post directly below. Nt

[BlueMTexpat]

37. Two of my sons are "IT guys" and

both have worked as contractors for some of the largest USG agencies ever. One has since been "regularized" because the agency found his skills so valuable that they enticed him to become a full-time employee. He now holds a senior position there.

The situation was similar with my other son who has worked for several agencies that require security clearances. The current agency is STILL trying to convince him to become a regular employee. But he does not want to work full-time, preferring instead to enjoy time with his two small sons while they are young. So he continues his work as a contractor and is able to choose his hours.

They were employed by different corporations. One thing that I have heard them gnash their teeth over is how different corporations try to enforce their own systems within different government agencies and how our politicians continue to drive the agendas, in some cases nonsensical. They don't get into specifics of course, but it is a problem.

I myself worked at the Department of State for five years before moving abroad to work for international organizations. I could only access my Department email account at the Department itself or at a satellite office such as an Embassy or Consulate or Mission. That situation had not improved by the time Hillary took office.

Give her a break on this one, please.

[karynnj]

15. The FIRST person to request that all the emails be made public ... was Hillary Clinton

The State Department agreed and wanted to process all of them and then put them out. Problem was that would be likely January 2016. As it became known that there were these emails there were FOIA requests and a judge ordered the SD to put out a chunk of them at the end of each month.

I have LONG thought that Clinton could handle this - sort of in a Reverend Wright speech way. By that I mean address a questionable negative and make it an issue where you are taking the lead to fix the problem. What if she got a task force of very good IT people and national security people together who could write a framework for email and other electronic communication that would keep information secure and insure it is appropriately archived. She could commit to asking that all sensitive departments would follow these rules in a Hillary Clinton White House from day 1. She could - in that context - speak of entering the State Department at a point when there were not yet clear precedents or practices that existed -- and that her choices here were not good in retrospect (something she already said.) Note - if done well, all her rivals might be asked if they would sign on to her proposed guidelines, which would for the the first time give her the upper hand on this.

If she feels that this would be a bad use of campaign resources, she could work with the State Department's IG who is looking into practices at Secretary Kerry's request.

[Autumn]

29. Because it's new in real life and this is a discussion board. Where we discuss things.

If only The State Dept had the IT infrastructure that the NSA has.

[BlueMTexpat]

36. New in real life???

Hardly. It's just a new release of emails, as Hillary herself had requested.

For some general background because this seems to be lacking among those who are at the forefront of the hue and cry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

The faux scandals against Hillary continue. The shame is that so-called Democrats are acting exactly like GOPers on a Democratic forum!

[Autumn]

39. Yeah and what Hillary does is news. That's just how it is. eom

[left-of-center2012]

5. "What difference does it make?"

Drip-drip-drip
The old Chinese water torture.
These emails will haunt her through 2016.

[Metric System]

6. The Right likes taking that line out of context. Not surprised to see it used on DU.

[morningfog]

8. Why do you bother when you are always so disdainful of DU?

Why are you here if it bothers you so?

Or do you enjoy telling us how disappointed you are in DU?

Or do you just enjoy calling everyone who disagrees with your boss a right winger?

[Metric System]

10. I simply pointed out that the line quoted by the poster above is often used by those on the Right. I

know Sanders supporters such as yourself would like nothing more than an echo chamber, but I ain't leaving.

[morningfog]

11. Yours is as good as an echo chamber. I could write it for you.

And, if anyone really wanted that, liberal use of ignore could do the trick.

[Metric System]

12. Sorry, I'm lost. Write what?

[morningfog]

14. Your tired, repetitive, predictable posts.

[Metric System]

24. I don't think my posts are repetitive. Are you confusing me with someone else?

[stevenleser]

31. Anyone who doesn't think exactly like that person wants gets those attacks.

I wouldn't worry about it.

[GitRDun]

26. funny you point out name calling

when you call Hillary supporters "hill shills".

Pot calling the kettle black

[morningfog]

27. You misunderstand.

There are many supporters here. There are a few shills.

[mcar]

18. This again?

Be against HRC all you want, but please do not take the RW tack of using quotes out of context in your smear attempts.

[left-of-center2012]

19. Hmm

Quoting Hillary is forbidden.
okie dokie smokie

[mcar]

20. Why don't you use the whole quote

instead of a few words?

[left-of-center2012]

21. Uh?

I'm trying to be concise???

[mcar]

23. No need to be concise

Posting the entire quote would be honest.

[AtomicKitten]

7. These are from those cherrypicked ones handed over. Not likely to be anything explosive in these.

They found several in Sid Blumenthal's emails that had not been handed over and a couple that had been altered. A "smoking gun" will probably only be found on the server that has been wiped if they are able to restore the data.

<snip>

State Department officials then crosschecked the emails from Mr. Blumenthal with the ones Mrs. Clinton had handed over and discovered that she had not provided nine of them and portions of six others.

<snip>

link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/us/state-dept-gets-libya-emails-that-clinton-didnt-hand-over.html?_r=0

[Sancho]

25. There's nothing missing, the server was backed up...

A stored server that is no longer secured by the secret service. In order to take it out of service, it was erased. Hillary's lawyers provided a thumb drive with the work emails, and the State Dept. returned about 1200 saying they were personal. Thats because the lawyers were overly enthusiastic to give them everything. The lawyers (who have top secret clearance) have not said, but they likely have a complete back up of all emails. The personal emails are not subject to FOIA requests, and may be private based on other law: attorney privilege, HIPPA (medical records), etc., etc. No one has said where the back up is except that Hillary's lawyers and staff obviously had a copy on a thumb drive.

Heck, over 90% of the email was captured on .gov computers anyway.

There were several reports a couple years ago about the server backup. Here's one:


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clintons-email-server-traced-to-home-based-service-ap/

In November 2012, without explanation, Clinton's private email account was reconfigured to use Google's servers as a backup in case her own personal email server failed, according to Internet records.

[AtomicKitten]

32. Nope. Still missing.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/25/hillary-clinton-benghazi-emails-missing

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/26/us/state-dept-gets-libya-emails-that-clinton-didnt-hand-over.html

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/6/25/15-emails-missing-from-clinton-cache.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/state-department-says-15-e-mails-from-clinton-cannot-be-found/2015/06/25/39e20a84-1b9e-11e5-93b7-5eddc056ad8a_story.html

[840high]

33. Thanks for links.

[Sancho]

35. All in June?

And more Benghazi private stuff came from Sid .. Not a Gov employee. Hillary voluntarily forwarded copies just in case, but have they said they were missing from the backup? No. Secret? No! Might as well have been you sending Hillary a weather report that she didn't have to look at...and she could choose to send it to State or ignore it or send a personal reply if she wanted. It's only government business if she chooses to make it business. Sid worked for the Foundation.

No one cares about Sid except the committee looking for dirt, but just to be cooperative he gave them his copies. Hell, they may have gone to the Spam file. Again, the entire server was backed up by Google and McAfee. Everything!

So, they could produce personal stuff but don't admit they have it...and cannot be compelled by State or FOIA to produce everything.

In reality, some of what's missing is REPLY pieces where the old email didn't always capture the original in the reply. Likely the Feds have seen it, but don't care about it and Obamas WH has no reason to feed the repub committee anyway, so why even get into the personal stuff? It just another birth certificate CT. After you read the reason 7000 (I read a lot of the last batch), let us know what you think is so worth all the bashing and RW junk. It's all routine and boring stuff.

[Le Taz Hot]

16. And another several weeks of

Hillary's emails as opposed to focusing on the Democratic Primary debates. Oh yeah, those aren't for another 6 weeks. Carry on, MSM.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. It's not going away.

She's already being perceived by a majority of being dishonest and trustworthy. Will this release add or detract from that perception?

Out, damned spot! out, I say! Macbeth: Act 5, Scene 1

[6chars]

28. That's an old one

The American Spectator August 1992, pp.25-32 - The Lady Macbeth of Little Rock, by Daniel Wattenburg

[840high]

34. Wonder if MacBeth used a cloth?

[morningfog]

38. Zing!