2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolling Trajectory Shows Bernie Sanders Winning the Democratic Nomination. It's Time for America to
Polling Trajectory Shows Bernie Sanders Winning the Democratic Nomination. It's Time for America to Notice.When Sarah Silverman introduced Senator Bernie Sanders to an energized crowd of 27,500 people in Los Angeles, POLITICO ran a piece that same day titled Clinton asks staff to turn over email server, thumb drive. On the day Bernie Sanders drew a crowd of 4,500 supporters in Reno, Hillary Clinton answered a question with the now legendary statement, "What, like with a cloth or something?" Several days after Bernie defeated Hillary in the informal Iowa State Fair poll, The New York Times ran a headline with the words, Judge Says Hillary Clinton Didn't Follow Government Email Policies.
There are countless other examples illustrating the different trajectories of both Democratic challengers, and nationwide polls are finally beginning to reflect this reality. Even FiveThirtyEight now says We Got Berned, and while concerns about name recognition and polling among minority voters still exist, only Bernie Sanders has a Racial Justice platform praised by Black Lives Matter, and only Vermont's Senator has the support of Cornell West, Killer Mike, and Lil B.
Senator Bernie Sanders will win the Democratic nomination in 2016 not only because he can type an email without nationwide controversy, but also because he's exhibited a monumental surge in the polls. This ascent within the hearts and minds of Democrats began several months ago, and will only continue with greater name recognition.
According to HuffPost Pollster, Clinton's lead over Sanders among Democrats was an astounding 60.1 percent to a mere 4.9 percent on March 2, 2016. By August 26, 2015 Bernie Sanders surged all the way to 23.4 percent while Clinton fell to 47.1 percent. America should finally start to notice a political "revolution" in the making, especially since most Americans still don't know much about Sanders, yet he still continues to rise in the polls.
Once he's given the attention he deserves from media and political pundits, Bernie Sanders will become even more popular among voters. In a matter of months, he surpassed Clinton in New Hampshire. Sanders is now within 7 points of Clinton in Iowa and the Vermont "socialist" beats Trump easily in a general election. While Sanders has drawn crowds totaling over 100,000 people, Hillary Clinton is forced to discuss the FBI's investigation of her emails. In terms of momentum, which is the most important aspect of ever-changing polls, Bernie Sanders is on his way to overtaking a Clinton campaign embroiled in controversy.
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Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Metric System
(6,048 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)But given the polling, I don't think that matters much so far. If we ever get a debate, O'Malley might go somewhere, I guess.
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath on that one.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Depends on how they get along, but I doubt many of us Bernie supporters would have a problem with O'Malley as VEEP at this point in time.
brooklynite
(94,598 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)As I said, I'm not gonna hold my breath on
My guess is that will only begrudgingly happen when he passes her in national polls, if even then.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)NYT "Public Editor" Responds to Months of Reader Complaints re: Bernie Sander's Media Blackout
NY Times responds to readers upset with Sanders coverage
By Daniel Pritchett -
September 4, 2015
The New York Times is analyzing its own coverage after users made inquiries about the lack of coverage of Senator Bernie Sanders.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251574123
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Popularity is nothing like physics.
I am a Bernie supporter but I think we are running the risk of over valuing his stock with some of these articles that act like he is actually ahead anywhere but NH.
There is such a thing as killing with kindness.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)There's been such a lack of coverage about Bernie, or what there has been, has been to discount him by putting in Biden in the polls when he isn't even a declared candidate...that supporters feel the new polls are a reason to feel good.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)There was some site here in the Us where you paid into a pot betting on your pick in past elections, I thought, with people essentially trying to 'rig' the odds by dumping money on candidates, but I can't remember what it was called now.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Nother Bernie supporter here. No one knows what's going to happen and counting on something that may not happen will not help our cause.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)let's check back in on this on October 7th - one month from now.
Doingto
(135 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And Go Berners...just keep spreading the Bern.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)OhZone
(3,212 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)StarzGuy
(254 posts)...that we are already in 2016...
"According to HuffPost Pollster, Clinton's lead over Sanders among Democrats was an astounding 60.1 percent to a mere 4.9 percent on March 2, 2016. By August 26, 2015 Bernie Sanders surged all the way to 23.4 percent while Clinton fell to 47.1 percent. "
oberliner
(58,724 posts)As of now, however, if it's between Hillary and Rand, and both don't flip-flop too egregiously to the point where they're two different people, I'm taking Rand.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/5-reasons-liberals-tired_b_6197694.html
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.
Then Bernie will win
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Debbie Oligarchy Schultz is desperately trying to eliminate all debates or at least get Sanders banned. While the Republicons are getting a lot of free air-time not a word about Democrats except Clinton's email problem. Not a good strategy for the general.
But the populist movement is strong and getting stronger and will take the primary and then the general leaving Debbie holding the door.
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)...but talk of "polling trajectory shows..." is pure and utter bullshit. You cannot just draw a line from where current polling has been into the future and say it will be at X% at X date. That's not how this works.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)it happens
According to HuffPost Pollster, Clinton's lead over Sanders among Democrats was an astounding 60.1 percent to a mere 4.9 percent on March 2, 2016. By August 26, 2015 Bernie Sanders s
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)"I don't know how it works digitally at all..."
I'm not suggesting that there's something to the email fiasco, just that she's obviously squirming and looks nervous.
For sure.