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mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 05:22 AM Sep 2015

All the "insiders" predicted Clinton NH & Iowa wins just THREE DAYS AGO!

These "insiders" sure have their pulse on the situation.

Driving the high degree of confidence in Clinton's chances is a belief that her field organization is too formidable for Sanders to overcome. "Best campaign infrastructure ever built," said an uncommitted New Hampshire Democrat. "They can overcome any deficit."

"Although the polls say otherwise right now, I think Hillary will win the primary," a New Hampshire Democrat said. "It is still early, she retooled her campaign to better reflect her authenticity, trustworthiness and exceptional qualifications. Polls have been proven wrong, especially in NH!"

"Sanders is nearing his plateau," an uncommitted Iowa Democrat said. "Hillary still has room to grow - I can't see the people holding out for Biden switching all the way to Sanders. I think a lot of caucus vets are holding out, waiting for the event where they will get their one on one moment with Hillary, their three minutes on their pet issue. About mid-November, they'll realize it is not going to happen this time, because those moments are reserved this cycle in this campaign for Real Voters not county chairs. They may quietly resent it, but not enough to make them caucus for someone else."

"I have never been more positive that HRC will be President. Even the press is sick of hearing themselves talk about email," an Iowa Democrat said.


So my question is, are all these supposed insiders complete clueless about their own states, or do they know something about their voting machines that the rest of us don't?
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
1. I'd still put money on a Clinton win in Iowa, personally
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 05:33 AM
Sep 2015

NH I think is going to go to Sanders (though it will be close), along with DC if he's still campaigning in June. But I imagine Clinton will do fairly well in Iowa, unfortunately; my question is whether O'Malley can get a strong third, which would mean a lot going into NH.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Too rich for my blood, but I'll donate $25 to Sanders if he wins Iowa
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 02:37 PM
Sep 2015

If you will agree to donate $25 to O'Malley if Sanders doesn't win Iowa.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
4. Option 3: HRC's campaign knew this poll was coming and the article is nothing but spin.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 07:54 AM
Sep 2015

Look at those quotes: Her field organization can overcome any deficit. Polls have been proven wrong. Sanders is nearing his plateau. Even the press is sick of hearing about emails.

Those are either people kidding themselves, or they're complete fabrications. The emails quote is particularly odd, given the IT guy who's invoking the Fifth.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. I'm going with complete fabrications..
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:33 PM
Sep 2015

there isn't one named source for comment in the entire article. Just how much of an insider is an uncommitted New Hampshire Democrat, or an Iowa Democrat?

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
5. Still pretty confident Clinton will take Iowa.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:00 AM
Sep 2015

NH is out of her column. I predict a lot of people talking about how unfair the caucus process is after Clinton takes Iowa. People are simply missing Clintons organization. It is beyond impressive. This isn't going to be a close race.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
15. People are simply missing Clintons organization..
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:14 PM
Sep 2015

Yeah, apparently so. I do agree with you that it's not going to be a close race. It's starting to look more like a boat race.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
6. I think being rich makes it really hard to understand how an average voter thinks.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:06 AM
Sep 2015

Especially when the issues revolve around money: When Bernie talks about a mother not bonding with her baby because she has to go to work right away to make ends meet, when he talks about a student not wanting to study because he isn't sure if his family can afford to send him to college, that hits home with a lot of Americans in an emotional way that the media elites have forgotten, that is, if they ever suffered economic hardship at all in their lives...

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
7. i would say more wishful thinking
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:07 AM
Sep 2015

than prediction. they pic (political industrial complex) has a lot to lose and they know it. they are going to spin, lie, wish and anything else.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
8. Democratic Party ground game
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:22 AM
Sep 2015

Was supposed to take care of it in the 2014 elections. We all saw how that turned out.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
17. The media is going to profit like never before, thanks to Super-PACs.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:31 PM
Sep 2015

I won't be surprised to see Super-PAC-funded content in areas other than commercial breaks.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
12. This is unintentionally hilarious
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:19 PM
Sep 2015

"she retooled her campaign to better reflect her authenticity, trustworthiness and exceptional qualifications."

Hillary v7.4: This time its Authentic and Trustworthy(tm)

 

Barky Bark

(70 posts)
13. Two generations too old...
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:41 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary v10.0 is coming soon! Hillary v9.0 just detected a Bern and must upgrade at a cost of a cool $2,700 each.


ancianita

(36,081 posts)
19. ...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:51 PM
Sep 2015

We'll see if these two states only make it a horse race, which is what they did with Obama, you know.

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