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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:10 PM Sep 2015

Spiel - the latest word used in an attempt to smear Sanders

as just another politician.

I noticed this word popping up lately in articles about Sanders.

Spiel has a negative connotation.

spiel - a long or fast speech or story, typically one intended as a means of persuasion or as an excuse but regarded with skepticism or contempt by those who hear it.

This reminded me of when my child at 5 watched a program that was intended to make children feel comfortable and accepting of gays. They brought up a derogatory word used against gays and he said something along the lines of " - Another bad word! Do they just sitting around thinking up bad words....

Kids are so smart...



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MisterP

(23,730 posts)
1. because if there's one candidate associated with giving a bunch of pretty words
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:11 PM
Sep 2015

to cover up their real intentions and their negligent weakness on the issue, it's Sanders

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
4. dangit I was being sarcastic--but it goes to the old "attack the opponent on their strengths"
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:44 PM
Sep 2015

and plain projection: the establishment says anything and believes in nothing, so of course they aim that arrow at everyone around them

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. Several of my friends at DU have told me that this is the last year for them.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:12 AM
Sep 2015

But of course, I sincerely doubt that they will be able to break their habit of Bernie bashing once he is in the White House, so I didn't address their concerns.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
2. Where lofty Platitudes solicit emotion without Debate, Get it " Without Debate " . Any Gimmick to
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:28 PM
Sep 2015

avoid that thing as harmful as water to the wicked witch of the west, the Truth . How about that Spiel in the form of a conference on the ' Bankruptcy of Greece ' or his 12 point plan for America, or his Real history on Race, Feminism, or one of three members of Congress to tell us about the TPP .

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
6. Spiel
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:09 AM
Sep 2015
spiel
1.
a long or fast speech or story, typically one intended as a means of persuasion or as an excuse but regarded with skepticism or contempt by those who hear it.
"he delivers a breathless and effortless spiel in promotion of his new novel"
synonyms: speech, patter, (sales) pitch, blurb, talk; More
1.
reel off; recite.
"he solemnly spieled all he knew"
speak glibly or at length.
Origin

late 19th century: from German Spiel ‘a game.’


What struck me is that I know spiel to be a German word and that is interesting given who Bernie is. Is there even another level to this? Perhaps not. Perhaps so.
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
11. Yup it is both
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:58 AM
Sep 2015

1890-95; (noun) < German Spiel or Yiddish shpil play, game; (v.) < German spielen or Yiddish shpiln to play, gamble

I wonder if it first came to Germany and was adopted or if it went the other way.

But I learnt the word first from Glockenspiel for a particular type of clock..that plays..



So they use a word that can dog whistle twice, just so they get their point across....hmm

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
13. Oh...I must admit I have little knowledge of Yiddish
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:04 AM
Sep 2015

but I like language.

I find the usage of words and particular phrases found in other languages are portals into the soul of the community they speak for....

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. That is hilarious!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:21 AM
Sep 2015

And then I was...hey...I know that back drop...that's South Lake Union in Seattle!

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
7. spiel suggests inauthenticity, so in my opinion if there is a candidate that has a spiel it is
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:16 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary. Bernie exudes authenticity.

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