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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:26 AM Sep 2015

OK, so what is -really- important to Cornel West?

I think this speech reveals the man....It's a great speech, and he is a great man.

Transcript of Cornel West’s January 17, 2013 statements regarding the use of Martin Luther King Jr.’s Bible during the inauguration of Barack Obama:


Now, when I got the news that my dear brother Barack Obama, President Obama, was going to put his precious hand on Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Bible, I got upset. And I got upset because you don’t play with Martin Luther King, Jr. and you don’t play with his people. And by his people, what I mean is people of good conscience, fundamentally committed to peace, and truth and justice. And especially the black tradition that produced it.

All the blood, sweat and tears that went into producing a Martin Luther King, Jr. generated a brother of such high decency and dignity that you don’t use his prophetic fire as just a moment in a presidential pageantry, without understanding the challenge that he presents to all of those in power no matter what color they are. No matter what color they are!

So, the righteous indignation of a Martin Luther King, Jr. becomes a moment in political calculation and that makes my blood boil. Why? Because Martin Luther King, Jr., he died knowing the three crimes against humanity he was wrestling with. Jim Crow – traumatizing, terrorizing, stigmatizing black people, lynching, insultful – not just segregation the way the press wants to talk about.

Second, carpet bombing in Vietnam, killing innocent people especially innocent children. Those are war crimes Martin Luther King, Jr. was willing to die for. And thirdly, was poverty of all colors. He said it’s a crime against humanity for the richest nation in the history of the world to have so many of its precious children of all colors living in poverty,
and especially on the chocolate side of the nation, in Indian reservations, in brown barrios, in yellow slices, and black ghettos, then. We call them hoods now, but ghettos then.

So I said to myself, “ok nothing wrong with putting your hand on the Bible.” Even though the bible talks about justice and Jesus is talking bout “the least of these.” But when you put in Martin’s bible? I said, “this is personal for me. This is the tradition I came out of. This is the tradition that is connected to my grandmothers prayers, and my grandfathers sermons, and my mothers tears, and my fathers smile, and it’s over against all of those in power who refuse to follow decent policies.”

So I say to myself, “Brother Martin Luther King, Jr., what would you say about the new Jim Crow? What would you say about the prison industrial complex? What would you say about the invisibility of so many of our prisoners? So many of our incarcerated, especially when 62% of them are there for soft drugs, but not one executive of a Wall Street bank gone to jail? Not one!” Martin doesn’t like that. Not one wiretapper. Not one torturer under the Bush administration, at all.

Then, what you say about the drones bring dropped on our precious brothers and sisters in Pakistan and Somalia and Yemen? Those are war crimes, just like war crimes in Vietnam. Martin Luther King, Jr., what would you say? “My voice hollers out,” and don’t tame it with your hand on his bible. Allow his prophetic voice to be heard. Martin, what would you say about the poverty in America now, beginning with the children, then the elderly, then our working folk, and all colors not just here, around the world.
Don’t hide and conceal his challenge. Don’t tame his prophetic fire.

So, that as much as I’m glad that Barack Obama won – I think that brother Mitt Romney would have been a catastrophe, and I understand my brother Newt told the truth about fat vampire capitalism but that’s true for the system as a whole not just Mitt Romney in that regard – but when Barack Obama attempts to use that rich tradition of Frederick Douglas and Ida B. Wells-Barnett? Use the tradition of A. Phillip Randolph? Use the tradition of Rabbi Joshua Heschel? Use the tradition of Tom Hayden and so many others struggling to produce that voice that pushed Martin in the direction that it did? I get upset.

People say, “Oh brother West, there’s Smiley and West, hating Obama.” No, no. We just loving the tradition that produced Martin Luther King, Jr. and were not going to allow it to be in any way sanitized, deodorized and sterilized, we want the subversive power to be heard. That’s what made me think, when you said he was gonna put in his hand on that bible. And I’m praying or him. I’m praying for him. As is Newt – both of us Christians, you Catholic, I’m Holy Ghost funkygut gutbucket Baptist – but we’re praying for him. Putting pressure on.


This is not hate on President Obama, its caring about the things that truly matter.

If he supported ALL that Obama does simply because Obama is also black, that would be racist. And hypocritical.

So West shows not only caring about what truly matters, but he's also incredibly brave as he speaks truth.

Also see~

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OK, so what is -really- important to Cornel West? (Original Post) RiverLover Sep 2015 OP
Attention upaloopa Sep 2015 #1
Nice equal opportunity insult.... daleanime Sep 2015 #2
That's such a meaningful, factual post. RiverLover Sep 2015 #3
Didn't know who he was?! TM99 Sep 2015 #4
I read his book "Race Matters" in the 90's. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #5
That's totally drool-worthy. Speak for yourself only please Catherina Sep 2015 #9
WOW. First time seeing that video. azmom Sep 2015 #18
Fired up and ready to go! Catherina Sep 2015 #23
Fired up for real! Awesome video! RiverLover Sep 2015 #24
Check out some of their other stuff. They're very active and consistent Catherina Sep 2015 #37
cue Curtis Mayfield --- People Get Ready, There's a Train A-comin.. grasswire Sep 2015 #34
Nice. There is room for everyone. azmom Sep 2015 #40
Great song but now you got all these train songs running through my head! n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #48
The mocking is the biggest tell... haikugal Sep 2015 #28
Totally discredited for it too, unlike Brother West Catherina Sep 2015 #41
Cornell West was a known entity awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #20
I met him at an anti-war demonstration in DC deutsey Sep 2015 #29
Gone Trajan Sep 2015 #26
"Didn't know who he was" Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #30
You can take that JackInGreen Sep 2015 #36
Attention. I knew who he was back when Obama was running, Autumn Sep 2015 #38
Way to insult your fellow members. 99Forever Sep 2015 #43
I've known and admired who he 840high Sep 2015 #53
"If he supported ALL that Obama does simply because Obama is also black, that would be racist." mmonk Sep 2015 #6
If two people agree on everything then one of them isn't thinking Fumesucker Sep 2015 #7
Yep. mmonk Sep 2015 #16
It seems Bernice disagreed with Mr. West? JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #8
We can't agree on everything. Good post. RiverLover Sep 2015 #11
Just food for thought . . . JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #14
Bernice King has been a virulent opponent of LGBT rights, rights supported by her Mother. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #12
Yeah - you tell no lies JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #15
Self deleting because it is just not worth it anymore on DU. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #17
I did not JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #19
Well, at least Miss Bernice is better than her cheesy auntie (cousin?), Alveda Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #22
Well - I have to honor BlueNorthWest's feelings on this JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #27
Miss Bernice's sister, Yolanda Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #21
The problem with this speech is this Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #10
I'm a fan of both West and Obama. azmom Sep 2015 #25
So who will he attack in 2016? upaloopa Sep 2015 #31
"He makes his living attacking people"...really? RiverLover Sep 2015 #45
thank you grasswire Sep 2015 #52
Lately, Dr. West has, in any event Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #50
Preach it Brother West, preach it! Catherina Sep 2015 #13
Amen. The other MLK words that West says Obama abandoned were, "...the fierce urgency of now." ancianita Sep 2015 #32
"...the fierce urgency of now" was totally tossed Catherina Sep 2015 #49
I have no problem with any of the policy criticisms of the President GitRDun Sep 2015 #33
Hell, West and Bernie have differences. azmom Sep 2015 #35
Cornel West is mostly interested in himself mythology Sep 2015 #39
You wouldn't have liked the black panthers much and would have had a very hard time in the 60's. haikugal Sep 2015 #46
Help DUers...my feed doesn't show half the posts in this thread, including my own! haikugal Sep 2015 #42
I read this article and what he said here really brought home Autumn Sep 2015 #44
Excellent quote. Painfully true. /nt RiverLover Sep 2015 #47
that's why I keep asking this question... grasswire Sep 2015 #54
"He's a horrible, horrible, man" whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #51
The most important thing to Cornel West is ..... Cornel West elfin Sep 2015 #55

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. Attention
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:29 AM
Sep 2015

So he latches on to somebody's campaign and gets noticed by a bunch of people who didn't know who he was a few month's ago.
Now he is a hero to them.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
4. Didn't know who he was?!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:54 AM
Sep 2015

Oh wow, y'all sure do crack me up.

One of the foremost black intellectuals in America. A man with 30 honorary degrees who has taught at Harvard, Princeton, Union Theological, and even the University of Paris.

His highly influential Race Matters was published in 1994 and his follow up Democracy Matter in 2004, four years before Obama was even running for the White House. West was already a prominent figure in media a decade before Obama even appeared on the scene.

He was a part of other campaigns prior to Obama as well from Bradley to Sharpton.

Didn't know who he was?! Yeah, my fucking ass!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
9. That's totally drool-worthy. Speak for yourself only please
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:25 AM
Sep 2015

Between State of Black America, all the work he did for then Senator Obama, all the work he's done on many issues he cares about that made many of us love him and all the vitriolic attacks on him by posters who have mocked and ridiculed issues important to less Centrist posters here, how on earth could any DUer not know who Brother West is?

The pettiness and craziness of those constant attacks was brilliant advertising for Brother West that only made it very clear which side he's on. My side. The people's side.


azmom

(5,208 posts)
18. WOW. First time seeing that video.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:12 AM
Sep 2015

I'm fired up and ready to go.

DU'rs: The love train has left the station and everyone needs to make a decision. As Zinn says, you can't be neutral on a moving train.

I'm happy to say, I have had my ticket for a while now. I've just been waiting for the train.

Solidarity Brothers and Sisters. I love all of you, and let's get to work. Together we can make this country and this world a more just and peaceful place.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
23. Fired up and ready to go!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:37 AM
Sep 2015

I think we were waiting together on the same platform sister

Together we can and together we will!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
37. Check out some of their other stuff. They're very active and consistent
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:47 AM
Sep 2015

like Brother West with whom they protest a lot.

Running to that Love Train with you!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
41. Totally discredited for it too, unlike Brother West
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:58 AM
Sep 2015

who has consistently been in tune with people striving for justice

Thanks Haikugal

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
29. I met him at an anti-war demonstration in DC
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:07 AM
Sep 2015

I had known about him since Race Matters came out and knew he was a vocal opponent of invading Iraq.

When I saw him marching along with the people in the streets, he had no entourage with him and, in fact, he seemed to be on his own like I was.

When I approached him and said his name to get his attention, I remember how surprised he looked that I knew who he was. I shook his hand and told him I admired his work. He thanked me and I let him go on his way.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
36. You can take that
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:47 AM
Sep 2015

And sit on it. Empty rhetoric for empty heads doesn't belong here. Keep it for your own echo filled dome.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
6. "If he supported ALL that Obama does simply because Obama is also black, that would be racist."
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:16 AM
Sep 2015

In a way, yes. Patronization.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
8. It seems Bernice disagreed with Mr. West?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:24 AM
Sep 2015

King's children described their father's King James version as his "travelling Bible" that he carried with him on the road and used for preparing sermons and speeches. His daughter Bernice King said her father marked the pages with several dates from May 1954, the same month he delivered his first sermon at Dexter Avenue Baptist church in Montgomery, Alabama.


"We know our father would be deeply moved to see President Obama take the oath of office using his Bible," King's children said in a statement provided by the inaugural committee. "His travelling Bible inspired him as he fought for freedom, justice and equality, and we hope it can be a source of strength for the president as he begins his second term."

Obama also plans to honour King on his inaugural weekend, beginning by asking Americans to volunteer in their communities on 19 January to honour the civil right leader's legacy of service. The King family plans to participate. There will be a float honouring King in the parade to the White House after the swearing-in ceremony.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/10/obama-inauguration-lincoln-martinlutherking-bibles


Martin Luther King III (her brother - regardless of disputes ongoing in regard to Dr. King's estate) seemed okay with it too -

In a statement, Martin Luther King III said he is proud that his father's Bible will be a part of Obama's inaugural, "and I hope that our great nation uses the moment to reflect on the enormous responsibility we have to serve our neighbors and communities."

King added: "Thousands of Americans joined Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., on the National Mall in the fight for equality and justice 50 years ago, and I am excited that my father's legacy will be honored as thousands more join President Obama to begin his second term."

The second term officially starts on Sunday, Jan. 20, when Obama holds a private swearing-in ceremony at the http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/01/10/obama-inaugural-bible-kennedy-king/1821363/White House. For that event, he will use a Bible belonging to the family of first lady Michelle Obama.



Who knew MLK's children allowing and PROVIDING that bible to President Obama (one of two) would be the cause of so much concern for Dr. West.

I don't know - I think I'm going to have to side with his children on this one. He was America's man - but he was their daddy first.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Bernice King has been a virulent opponent of LGBT rights, rights supported by her Mother.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:47 AM
Sep 2015

So 'Bernice approves' is not much of a metric.
Some background on Bernice and her brand of philosophy. I am not of the opinion many here hold that hate against LGBT is 'allowed' or somehow 'understandable' in ways other bigotry is not. I think a bigot is a bigot.
http://thegrio.com/2013/08/12/on-bernice-kings-recent-anti-lgbt-remarks/

So yeah, Bernice. I'm more of a Coretta person myself.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
15. Yeah - you tell no lies
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:50 AM
Sep 2015
But on her daddy's bible -

I believe she was right. As was her brother.

You and me - we can agree to disagree.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
19. I did not
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:27 AM
Sep 2015

I said - you tell no lies.

Here's where you could possibly have dismissed my life experience?

Black women who have/had present fathers (mine died 3 years ago) according to America are 'rare'. So being in this (supposedly) 'rare' experience - She owns her father.

She owns her father along with her siblings. There is no evidence he was not a loving and kind father. There is no evidence he was not 'present'. There is no evidence he ever neglected his children. That creates a loving relationship with one's children.

Her memory of him over rules our (yours and mine) disgust for her homophobic views.

Her father was a Civil Rights hero. But he was still her daddy.

We shouldn't 'lynch' the relationship between black father and black daughter - in this day and age of stereotypes about black men . . . Which drives policies that create a hostile reproductive environment for black women. <-- This is true - not backing down on it. Posted something in the Af Am group this morning.


He has his own daughter - let her own his legacy. Seriously - who knows where she will end up? But I will respect Zeytun's admiration and love for her father regardless of 'what' she turns out to be.



JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
27. Well - I have to honor BlueNorthWest's feelings on this
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:58 AM
Sep 2015

They come from the RIGHT place.

And I know you are gay black man.

And I don't want either of you to think I don't see and acknowledge how AWFUL she is. WHAT she is.

But in terms of her father - she's right. She's absolutely right.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
21. Miss Bernice's sister, Yolanda
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:31 AM
Sep 2015

was also a LGBT supporter...I saw that Bernice citation and had to walk away from the laptop for a minute, with Miss Bernice's Eddie Long lovin' ass.

She has been trying to improve, that Miss Bernice...but still...

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
10. The problem with this speech is this
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:27 AM
Sep 2015

all of these problems were there prior to the election and reelection of Obama and, really, prior to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Hell, Frederick Douglass was complaining about the doctrine of "manifest destiny" in the 19th century ("manifest destiny" = American imperialism).

Obama was not elected by a majority of the American people to put a stop to all of that, much as I would have liked him too. And Obama couldn't have done that if he tried.

American structures like Jim Crow and American imperialism have been in the making for over 400 years.

Barack Obama could not possibly put a stop to all of that in 4 years.

Dr. West IS correct to push in that way, though.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
25. I'm a fan of both West and Obama.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 10:46 AM
Sep 2015

I will be voting for Bernie because I believe him to be a true egalitarian. Will he a better president than Obama? I don't know. But, since Obama can't run again, I am choosing Bernie to carry on.

Bernie is to the left of Obama. In that sense, he may get more push back from the republicans. The great thing is that Bernie will be allowed to push back in way that Obama wasn't. Those fuckers obstructed every damn thing Obama tried to do. It will be a joy to hear Bernie call them out on their shit. He gives it to them straight. To me, it will be sweet payback.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
31. So who will he attack in 2016?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:31 AM
Sep 2015

My guess is Hillary. He makes his living attacking people. I wonder if he would say the same things if it were he who had to solve the problems.

Seems to me there are a lot of people lately who can tell you how things should be but have never had to be accountable for doing anything about them.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
45. "He makes his living attacking people"...really?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 12:14 PM
Sep 2015
Cornel West—a self-described intellectual freedom fighter influenced by the Baptist church, American transcendentalism, the Black Panthers and European philosophy—seeks to revive the best of liberalism, populism and democratic socialism. In this talk, West teaches that racial division fosters the poverty, paranoia, fear and distrust that undermine our nation's democratic process....




Also see~





"One of the most authentic, brilliant, prophetic and feeling voices in America today"


Is this attacking people or what the people are doing?

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
50. Lately, Dr. West has, in any event
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:46 PM
Sep 2015

Dr. West is far to the left of Hillary Clinton on the political spectrum, so that is to be expected; heck, he's to the left of Sanders (West hesitated to endorse Sanders over the I/P issue)

As long as they are principles attacks on policy, I actually don't mind them; that's, in part, the function of a Socratic gadfly in a democracy.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
13. Preach it Brother West, preach it!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:47 AM
Sep 2015

And thanks for your consistency. Thanks for calling out Brother Bernie where he's wrong and making it very clear that your endorsement and work for him are in no way an endorsement of the neoliberalism that's corrupted the party and harmed poor people everywhere, especially in our communities.

Keep speaking the truth!

ancianita

(36,067 posts)
32. Amen. The other MLK words that West says Obama abandoned were, "...the fierce urgency of now."
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:31 AM
Sep 2015

Not in this video, but in his work as president, especially with his DOJ appointment of Holder, BIG war on drugs prosecutor who wanted harsh mandatory minimums in DC for simple marijuana possession.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
49. "...the fierce urgency of now" was totally tossed
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:22 PM
Sep 2015

I like your posts, whoever you are, you're rocking.

There isn't a word out of Brother West's mouth that I've disagreed with. Ever. Not as far as I know but then again, I was one of Jeremiah Wright's fiercest defenders, and Obama's too when the dirty 2007 racist games to exploit, divide and conquer really took off.

From the NYT, 2007

...

Obama came to the Apollo Theater in Harlem Thursday night — down the block from Bill Clinton’s office — to try to wrest some support back from the first black president and his wife. Some young Obama fans wore yellow tees reading, “Who decided Hillary is best for the black community?”

Charlie Rangel; John Lewis; Quincy Jones; Essence Communications’ chairman, Edward Lewis; and other celebrated Hillary supporters were not there.

But Obama did get to sup at Sylvia’s soul-food restaurant — the place where Bill O’Reilly was shocked to find such genteel black folk — with the still-up-for-grabs Al Sharpton. The only endorsement Sharpton offered afterward was: “A man that likes chicken and corn bread can’t be that bad.”

...

And he got a benediction from Cornel West, the Princeton professor who took Obama to task earlier this year for not attending a national gathering of black scholars and civil rights leaders.

West tried to help Obama in his uneasy quest to claim his place in the black community, calling him “my brother,” “an eloquent brother,” “a good brother” and “a decent brother.” He urged the audience to put Obama in a historical continuum with the spirituals on the plantation and Apollo stars like James Brown and Billie Holiday. Black, he said, has variations. “We don’t expect Alicia Keys to be Aretha,” he said.

Obama threw in some lines meant to show his black fire, even if it’s a cool fire.

...

He said he’s running because of what Martin Luther King Jr. called “the fierce urgency of now.” Now can the prodigy muster that fierce urgency?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/opinion/02dowd.html?_r=0


The answer years later is obviously NO. Even before the inauguration, we'd gone from the fierce urgency of now to the fierce urgency of betraying people with his FISA vote, Rahm Emmanuel, Eric Holder, Timothy Geithner etc.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
33. I have no problem with any of the policy criticisms of the President
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:32 AM
Sep 2015

That's all fair game as far as I'm concerned.

This is what, for me makes West petty and not worthy of my respect, something you didn't highlight:

Now, when I got the news that my dear brother Barack Obama, President Obama, was going to put his precious hand on Martin Luther King, Jr.’s Bible, I got upset. And I got upset because you don’t play with Martin Luther King, Jr. and you don’t play with his people. And by his people, what I mean is people of good conscience, fundamentally committed to peace, and truth and justice. And especially the black tradition that produced it.


His indignation is that Barack has no place in black tradition, Martin's tradition, therefore should not be placing his hand on Martin's Bible. The sentiment is that Barack Obama is an outsider.

No matter how much we can disagree about whether or not Obama's governing style gets enough done for the black community, there is no way I can accept he is not a part of the black community, black tradition.

Cornel West doesn't get to decide that...history does. The arrogance he has in thinking that is not worthy of anyone's respect.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
35. Hell, West and Bernie have differences.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:40 AM
Sep 2015

At first, he said he wasn't going to support Bernie but then he changed his mind.

There is no perfect candidate. All Bernie can do is make his positions clear.

As Bernie said at Liberty. We don't agree on everything, but we can find common ground. What I found interesting about that, is that their main issue of concern by far seemed to be abortion.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
39. Cornel West is mostly interested in himself
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:50 AM
Sep 2015

Others have labeled Dr. King as a prophet. West labeled himself as one. West tries very hard to put himself at the forefront of current black intellectualism and as the guardian of what it means to be black. If you don't meet his standard you're in blackface as he described Obama. I feel just as disgusted when people call Clarence Thomas an Uncle Tom.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
46. You wouldn't have liked the black panthers much and would have had a very hard time in the 60's.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 12:18 PM
Sep 2015

One of the many things that I find admirable about black culture is the fluidity of language and it's use.

We have a disagreement about who West is and what he's about.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
42. Help DUers...my feed doesn't show half the posts in this thread, including my own!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 12:01 PM
Sep 2015

Someone responded to my earlier post but I can't see it...what's going on? Who do I contact? WTF my avatar image has disappeared.

Welcome to my morning...

On edit:

They're tweaking DU and I hope everything will be returned because there are some most excellent posts missing here.

Autumn

(45,106 posts)
44. I read this article and what he said here really brought home
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 12:12 PM
Sep 2015

the chief failure of the Obama administration

“Can you imagine if Barack Obama had taken office and deliberately educated and taught the American people about the nature of the financial catastrophe and what greed was really taking place?” West asks. “If he had told us what kind of mechanisms of accountability needed to be in place, if he had focused on homeowners rather than investment banks for bailouts and engaged in massive job creation he could have nipped in the bud the right-wing populism of the tea party folk. The tea party folk are right when they say the government is corrupt. It is corrupt. Big business and banks have taken over government and corrupted it in deep ways.


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_obama_deception_why_cornel_west_went_ballistic_20110516

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
54. that's why I keep asking this question...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:14 PM
Sep 2015

Which do AAs want more?

To push back against white privilege (including inequality)?

Or to protect Obama from criticism?

(Because if the latter is the first choice, then the former is negated.)

elfin

(6,262 posts)
55. The most important thing to Cornel West is ..... Cornel West
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:06 PM
Sep 2015

He lost his "intellectual" top black dog status with the arrival of thoughtful, yet pragmatic Obama.

This drove him off the rails to often incoherent rhetoric, postulating that Obama was a sell out because he had to govern ALL the people and not just African Americans. He became enraged to the point of being unhinged that Obama was not frothing at the mouth with hatred toward whites.

I never understood how or why he got another gig at another prestigious university after his flameout at Harvard - itr was it Yale. His personality and not scholarship informs his diatribes. It is sad. I used to regard him as a deep thinker, now see him as flailing to stay in the spotlight in any way he can.

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