The Democratic Establishment must believe in rainbows and unicorns

[Skwmom]

Last edited Mon Sep 21, 2015, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

if they believe their chosen candidate is good for the Democratic Party.

There are two types of women, women will not support:

Women viewed as:

1. Stupid (Palin).
2. Dishonest, corrupt.

You can ignore the elephant in the room all you want. But the scandals (based on facts) will be driven home in the general election if Clinton is the nominee.

And the Democratic Party and all those people who endorsed her will be tainted with the same brush. Obama's legacy will suffer (which I think is unfair because he's not the one who did those actions - Hillary and Bill Clinton are responsible for their own actions).

And it's not just women. People are fed up.

Some people have debated whether we should try to reform the Democratic Party or leave the Democratic Party. I'm beginning to think the latter is the only viable option - and I'm not the only one who feels that way. When the discussion among life long Democratic voters turns to "if we are stuck with Clinton, do you think there's a Republican we could vote for" you have a problem.

[HassleCat]

1. I don't see it that way

I'm hoping Democrats will wake up and smell the progressive coffee, but I don't think Clinton is particularly corrupt, not enough to make Democrats want to vote Republican. She takes money from the wrong interest groups, but that's standard practice for candidates of both parties. I certainly will vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination, but I would look very seriously at any third party effort or, better yet, a movement within the Democratic Party to stop the slide to the right. I think Bernie Sanders, even if he should fail to win the nomination, represents the future of our party. If Clinton is our candidate, I hope she will be the last representative of the disastrous third way movement that made us the minority party in both houses of congress.

[OilemFirchen]

2. Democratic voters do not think of Clinton as "dishonest, corrupt".

When discussion turns to "if were are stuck with Clinton do you think there's a Republican we could vote for" you have a problem.

That's a thing?

What a strange post.

[restorefreedom]

3. i think we are seeing the beginning

of the birth of a real third party. not like The tea party wackos, this will be a party of independents, progressives, and non-establishment Republicans who like the progressive message. It will do a lot of what both parties used to do, which is look out for the peoples interests. It will not function at the beckoning of the 1%. I really believe that Bernie's goal, in addition to becoming president, is to start a political revolution that will change the way we do things in this country. And it looks like he is succeeding.

[NCTraveler]

4. One of the best and unintentionally funny uses of the phrase "rainbows and unicorns."

I truly appreciate this laugh. The perfect parody of purity while using the phrase "rainbows and unicorns." You absolutely knocked the shtick out of the park. Colbert would stand back and salute you.

[mopinko]

5. the scandals (based on fiction) will be hammered.

i find it really depressing that this website is so riddled w people who eat the spin.
but....

[Skwmom]

8. No. If I ate the spin, I'd back Clinton. n/t

[mopinko]

9. just keep tellin yourself that, you'll be fine.

[Metric System]

6. So much BS being spewed. What trash.

[Skwmom]

10. The only one who spins is the Clinton machine.

Though spin should really be called what it is - lies and distortion

[Puzzledtraveller]

7. She is too cold.

No matter what we want to believe, people are appraised differently. Particularly among gender a woman perceived as humorless and cold will not garner the same support as a male counterpart of the same personality where it may seem fitting of male and less desirable in a female. Should it matter? No, but our human nature, subconscious has years and years of catching up to the ideals we espouse consciously. Hillary's success against a republican candidate will hinge more on how much less desirable the republican is, not how much people warm up to Clinton. This is why I believe even Trump would be hard to beat because, a) celebrity wins, b) people who hate Trump can't stop watching him, c) the low information voters love the Trump bling. My opinion on all of this of course so take it as you will.

[fadedrose]

11. I agree

I can't pull myself to vote for ... Either I will write-in someone I honestly like, will not vote at all, or will vote for the Green or whatever party is on the ballot.

I didn't leave the party. The party left me.

We survived the Bush-Cheney years. Unfortunately, Iraq and Syria didn't, and other countries are flailing.

Maybe we could postpone the election for 3 years, catch the one in 2020, and see what shows up in our party.

Isn't it pathetic that the Reps have so many to choose from, and we have no choice? They're polling Bernie at further behind now, but I don't believe the damn polls any more.

[99Forever]

12. I will vote my conscience.

And it knows there are options besides being stuck with a candidate or voting for any Republican.