2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie Sanders Will Win
Because every Republican candidate is way more extreme.
Hillary and Joe are status quo hawks.
Bernie is honest and ethical.
He believes in Americans over America.
He is for the people not the nation.
He has been fighting for the same ideology for years.
He is real and he's fighting for us.
Honesty and integrity.
What we need and why Bernie will win.
randys1
(16,286 posts)lots of folks dont even know who he is, you do know that?
I love Bernie, but even Bernie knows he has a huge hill to climb.
Some argue that he really didnt have any intention of winning in the first place because he knows what machine he is up against, I mean if ANYBODY knows about the status quo political machines of both partiers, it is him.
I chastised someone earlier for implying that Bernie isnt in it to win, because that is no way to talk at this point of the game.
But were he to win it would be the biggest upset of ALL time.
ALL time.
Has to happen someday, someday we have to elect someone who isnt part of the broken machine that George Carlin spoke of often.
Is it now?
Let's find out!
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)And more honest.
randys1
(16,286 posts)For god's sake, this is America, filled with morons who think rich people dont have enough and the poor have it too easy...
Bernie actually used the S word in reference to himself
Big upset?
HUGE
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Which is not the same thing as a 'Socialist.'
randys1
(16,286 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)As Camp Windsock and the Bernie-Buts like to remind us, "he's a socialist!" and "he has no name recognition!" and - most damning of all! - "He's not taking huge donor money!"
But yet, look how well he's doing with all that, even so.
And contrary to the hair-on-fire sorts, the Convention is not happening this Friday. Yes, if it were, Clinton would be the nominee. But it's not. It's ten months off from now. And the problem clinton faces over this period is that when you start on top, there's only one direction left to go.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Obama at this stage in 2007.
It would be another huge upset for sure, the previous withstanding
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)means that as they start learning about him and what he stands for, he will gain vastly more supporters.
People post polls, like this latest national one, as if any of them are the final word on what will happen in November next year. First off, we don't have a national primary. We do it one or two states at a time, then a couple of groups of states, until we have a nominee. At this point in 2007 not only had a lot of people still not really heard of Barack Obama, but Hillary was Inevitable. Don't forget that. Right now she is Hillary the Inevitable Redux. But there's still a long way to go.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)no one either side of the aisle will Trust her .
shenmue
(38,506 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Now munch on that, know what I mean ??
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Working Americans, it clouds any of the information you have to help your candidate. Hillary started working for children's rights to education and health conditions, it clouds your promotion of your candidate of whom can be classified as status quo also. Look at the standings of the issues for all three candidates, I bet you will find the same positions on many of the issues. If being against minimum wage increases is bad then all of these candidates are bad.
I see post complaining of smears against the candidates, it happens too often, I dont understand smearing and not expecting more smearing, this is DU.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)I could go on. It isn't smears to talk about him and his record. He is a war monger as well. Truth hurts.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Truth other candidates, it makes it fair game.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)no one would be able to tell the truth about anyone without being accused of smears. Nothing I said was a smear. It was the truth. Thinkabout it harder. I personally prefer truth. thanks.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)What the hell?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)credit card debt sky high. Maybe you weren't old enough to remember. I will never forget. Your attempt to diminish what he did is sad.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)he seems like the most honest candidate. I do worry because he's not naturally charismatic like some politicians, but I hope people will go for the real thing this time.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)40RatRod
(532 posts)...I was banned from a forum.
The trash talking in this entire thread, by what I thought was fellow dems, I find absolutely disgusting. I think I have joined the wrong site.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)And oddly enough some of the die hard Hillary supporters now were die hard Obama supporters then.
Way more going on here than meets the eye.
Uben
(7,719 posts)We all have an opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs. I don't think he'll win the nomination, the numbers are just not there. I like Bernie, think he would make an excellent prez. I like Clinton and Biden, too. Any one of them would be good as prez. I will vote for the nominee.
procon
(15,805 posts)If Sanders is the nominee I'll happily vote for him, just as I will any other Democrat. But first, show me the quantifiable data, the measureable path that get's him to that point.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]
brooklynite
(94,713 posts)Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)It's the reason he won't have to wait around for focus groups to tell him right from wrong.