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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:27 PM Sep 2015

I googled Bernie Drug Proposal and look what came up.

Last edited Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:09 AM - Edit history (6)

Hillary Clinton taking on drug industry
Politico‎ - 5 hours ago
Bernie Sanders, who released a similar plan earlier this month. New drugs with high price ...

Clinton to Propose New Rules for Drug Makers
Wall Street Journal‎ - 14 hours ago

Hillary calls Rx price 'outrageous,' vows action
CNBC‎ - 1 day ago (Note: This one is REALLY priceless!)

Note to Politico - Bernie's wasn't a plan - he introduced legislation along with Cummings.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-cummings-introduce-comprehensive-legislation-to-lower-soaring-drug-prices_---

Oh that corporate media, they are just so out to get Hillary. And if this doesn't give you chills over the state of our fourth estate...

I still don't get that guy who went on TV and just said - no I don't plan to lower the price. Who does that? It's really strange. I don't recall ever seeing something like this.... Let me clarify. I don't think it would be too difficult for someone to talk this schmuck into pulling such a move. It really doesn't take a genius to manipulate a situation.

https://www.google.com/#q=Bernie+Drug+proposal

Note. Whether or not this gets a lot of recommends will really say something about this board - well a lot more than the easily manipulated stats they like to throw around (e.g., how many people are in the Bernie Group vs the Hillary Group).

Thanks for the recommends. I figured with the flattering Clinton comments I had a shot, unlike some of my other posts that focus on Bernie.

Update: So do you think you need a journalism degree or a marketing degree to write for online media? I'd say the latter.

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I googled Bernie Drug Proposal and look what came up. (Original Post) Skwmom Sep 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #1
That's a sad state of affairs. Hillary's drug thing, tons of headlines Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #2
That alone speaks volumes about who's the corporate candidate n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #4
kaBOOM. eom SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #25
Sure does... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #50
she is riding on his coattails restorefreedom Sep 2015 #5
Of course she is. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #6
what an original thinker restorefreedom Sep 2015 #7
Good job, Hillary! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #8
! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #11
It's more than that. Skwmom Sep 2015 #12
SOP. Standard operating procedure for the unfair media. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #13
Yep! passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #15
I don't think her supporters buy into it... demwing Sep 2015 #18
Really? pandr32 Sep 2015 #19
I voiced my opinion passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #20
You don't get to tell me what I "need" to do. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #27
"Whether male or female"? Really? You're injecting gender into this? arcane1 Sep 2015 #30
In absence of an argument, one must settle for invective Scootaloo Sep 2015 #51
Yes, she cared about it back then, not so much since then. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #60
actually it was a big seller during Bill's 1992 campaign azurnoir Sep 2015 #61
google rigging mhatrw Sep 2015 #62
Really a great job by Hillary getting this national exposure...... NCTraveler Sep 2015 #3
LOL.nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #10
Medicare for ALL, Bernie's Plan from the early days of the OBama Admn bvar22 Sep 2015 #9
+100%! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #14
+100 SoapBox Sep 2015 #23
He was the first Congressperson druidity33 Sep 2015 #38
...but, all of a sudden, Hillary discovers that this is a problem. bvar22 Sep 2015 #42
That's the only way! Lorien Sep 2015 #46
Gouging by Big Pharma has been going on for decades nichomachus Sep 2015 #16
Hillary just found out about it yesterday. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #39
And evolving nichomachus Sep 2015 #44
No surprise. When they interview Bernie they want it to be about Hillary too. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #17
Perhaps that's because Sanders doesn't have a real drug proposal worth reporting on? George II Sep 2015 #21
Yeah, that's it ornotna Sep 2015 #24
Shhhhh. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #28
Bernie doesn't have a plan, AlbertCat Sep 2015 #40
Those aren't REAL proposals, AlbertCat! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #41
NEXT! SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #31
Ignorance ... GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #48
Camp Weathervane had to shove their hand in the air and shout SoapBox Sep 2015 #22
The person who wont lower the price is guilty of premeditated, first degree murder. randys1 Sep 2015 #26
+1 leftofcool Sep 2015 #29
The true "death panels." SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #34
UNREC brooklynite Sep 2015 #32
But we've heard how the media is out to get Clinton. Talk about a LUDICROUS conspiracy theory. Skwmom Sep 2015 #33
Creative conspiracy theories are all the rage....even when Clinton announces Keystone opposition. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #35
No conspiracy on Keystone. The Clintons have a track record of polling their positions. Skwmom Sep 2015 #36
Go back to 2009 and read Bernie's proposed LEGISLATION.. bvar22 Sep 2015 #47
Well there WAS that whole "Hillarycare" effort in 1993...it was in all the papers brooklynite Sep 2015 #49
HillaryCare...LOL. bvar22 Sep 2015 #53
So, much better to have NO expanded health care? brooklynite Sep 2015 #54
You will have to define what "coverage" meant in HillaryCare. bvar22 Sep 2015 #55
There is a good OP on Texas wind power. Funny is that I don't see any Clinton rhett o rick Sep 2015 #56
Goggles. longship Sep 2015 #37
The MSM omitting facts is okay! in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #43
A neighbor of mine was the news director of our local PBS station Lorien Sep 2015 #45
Adopting Bernie's Platform - but can we really believe her? Ned Flanders Sep 2015 #52
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #57
Why not do it earlier Bernie's been there it easy to introduce legislation... Historic NY Sep 2015 #58
guess you used a 'different' Google the little 'g' perhaps? azurnoir Sep 2015 #59
this is why I say now that hillary's campaign slogon should be, "Yeah, me too!" Javaman Sep 2015 #63
That's very good. "Hillary 2016: Me too!" beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #66
Actually, for writing for mainstream media you only need ... DrBulldog Sep 2015 #64
To your last question libodem Sep 2015 #65

Response to Skwmom (Original post)

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
2. That's a sad state of affairs. Hillary's drug thing, tons of headlines
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:47 PM
Sep 2015

Bernies' drug thing, crickets from the MSM.

That's messed up.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
6. Of course she is.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:58 PM
Sep 2015

She'll continue getting accolades for her courage and decisiveness from her supporters too.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
12. It's more than that.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:23 PM
Sep 2015

Putin was right when he said Russia didn't have anything on the U.S. . This was in response to us telling him to cut out the propaganda and the manipulation of the masses.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
15. Yep!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:31 PM
Sep 2015

She's been stealing his glory ever since he got in the race. Wherever and whenever she can.

And her supporters just buy into it and think she's wonderful.

And yes...the media really sucks.

pandr32

(11,615 posts)
19. Really?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:42 PM
Sep 2015

You did know that HC fought for national healthcare reform, including capping prescription prices, as early as 1993...right? The Republican push back was fast and furious.
You made an unfair and unsubstantiated statement.
Keep this in mind...this is a site for democrats. As democrats we need to support our nominee whether male or female. We haven't even had our debates yet and there may be more candidates.
Stop the bull.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
20. I voiced my opinion
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:46 PM
Sep 2015

and from what I've seen here on DU, my opinion is most likely correct for many HRC supporters. I'm sure not all.

HRC's health plan was very complicated and it was not single payer, so no props from me on that.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
27. You don't get to tell me what I "need" to do.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:17 PM
Sep 2015

Do you really think Bernie's supporters distrust Clinton because she's a woman?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
61. actually it was a big seller during Bill's 1992 campaign
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 05:05 AM
Sep 2015

she then dropped it like it was a rancid turd when the S (socialist) word got bandied about, not mentioned seriously again until 2008 and then by Barack Obama

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Really a great job by Hillary getting this national exposure......
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:52 PM
Sep 2015

and putting great ideas to our brand. Her words carry a lot of weight. Very good illustration of that.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. Medicare for ALL, Bernie's Plan from the early days of the OBama Admn
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:02 PM
Sep 2015

would have "fixed" getting raped by the Pharm Companies. No Pharm Company could stand up the Collective Bargaining Power of a NATION enrolled in Medicare.

Is Hillary just now finding out about this problem?
Bernie has been fighting it for 8 years and longer.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their promises.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
38. He was the first Congressperson
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:49 PM
Sep 2015

to go to Canada for prescription drugs with a group of Seniors. There are articles about it, it has been posted here.



bvar22

(39,909 posts)
42. ...but, all of a sudden, Hillary discovers that this is a problem.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:29 PM
Sep 2015

Where has she been for the last 8 years....or the last 24 years?
Of course, this is just Campaign Speak from Hillary that can evaporate immediately after the election.

Bernie's long time work to get Medicare for All (Everybody IN, nobody OUT) has the collective bargaining power to drive down Prescription Prices is written in HISTORY.
Prescription prices would be a non-issue IF we had a true, NATIONAL single payer system.




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their promises.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
46. That's the only way!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:22 PM
Sep 2015

I've been listening to him for 13 years, and his message and positions have never changed.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
16. Gouging by Big Pharma has been going on for decades
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:33 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary just found out about it yesterday. She's really on the ball, that one.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
44. And evolving
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:15 PM
Sep 2015

In 2003, she voted to ban the government from negotiating with Big Pharma on drug prices.

Just as she used to be opposed to same-sex marriage -- even testified to that fact -- but came around after about 70 percent of the country decided it was OK. Day late and a dollar short. (But then, according to Bill, Hillary is "uncomfortable" around gay people.)

ornotna

(10,807 posts)
24. Yeah, that's it
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:11 PM
Sep 2015

1. Negotiate A Better Deal

Require Medicare to use its bargaining power to negotiate with the prescription drug companies for better prices – a practice that is currently banned by law.
Last year there were more than 37 million Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in private Part D plans. 90 percent of seniors take at least one prescription. Many seniors – almost two-thirds – take three or more prescription drugs.
Not only would negotiation substantially reduce prices seniors and people with disabilities pay for drugs, it could save Medicare between $230 billion to $541 billion dollars over the next decade.
83 percent of Americans support allowing the federal government to negotiate with drug companies for better prices.


The rest is here. https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices/

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
41. Those aren't REAL proposals, AlbertCat!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:24 PM
Sep 2015

We're just making them up to ruin the limelight Hillary is supposed to be basking in!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
22. Camp Weathervane had to shove their hand in the air and shout
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:05 PM
Sep 2015

Me too! Me too!

Yawn...day late and dollar short.

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
32. UNREC
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:25 PM
Sep 2015

I googled the same thing and got the same "rigged" responses.

Want to know why?

Because the first listings are NEWS responses. TODAY's news. The day the media reported on YESTERDAY's Clinton proposal. Which WASN'T the day Sanders made a Health Care proposal OR introduced legislation in the Senate (that was September 10' two weeks ago).

If you don't like Google's search alogrithms, I would demand a refund for every penny you've paid to use them, and switch to another one. Or try to come up with a more creative conspiracy theory.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
33. But we've heard how the media is out to get Clinton. Talk about a LUDICROUS conspiracy theory.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:28 PM
Sep 2015

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Some of those titles are downright cheerleading for her.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
35. Creative conspiracy theories are all the rage....even when Clinton announces Keystone opposition.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:37 PM
Sep 2015

I am not Recing the thread either, but good for Clinton....she is indeed formidable, even the mass media seems to now be grudgingly admitting that as their EGazhi campaign tanks.

Good to see so many not be fooled by backhanded compliments.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
36. No conspiracy on Keystone. The Clintons have a track record of polling their positions.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:41 PM
Sep 2015

In regards to conspiracies, they happen all the time. Ever heard of Enron, the Eugenics Movement, etc. And conspiracy to commit this crime or that.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
47. Go back to 2009 and read Bernie's proposed LEGISLATION..
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:33 PM
Sep 2015

...to extend Medicare to All.
With a NATIONAL program (every IN, nobody OUT),
The collective bargaining power of All The People in the Country would, in fact, drive down the obscene prices we are having to pay.

This is documented HISTORY. It is in the Congressional Record.
not some BS campaign promise to be forgotten on Day One.

Where is Hillary's history of taking on the powerful interests?

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
49. Well there WAS that whole "Hillarycare" effort in 1993...it was in all the papers
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:21 PM
Sep 2015

Now, what does this have to do with the OP's complaint about Google?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
53. HillaryCare...LOL.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:47 PM
Sep 2015

Like Obama's ACA, HillaryCare was a transparent attempt to Privatize Health Care (Insurance).
It was NOT and would NEVER be a National Single Payer system.
If I had been in Congress, I would have voted against that convoluted 3000 page mess.

Did you know that the bill submitted to expand Medicare was ONE page long.
Easy for ANY American to read and understand,
and NO loopholes, trap doors, no escape hatches put in by the lobbyists that wrote it.

brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
54. So, much better to have NO expanded health care?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:53 PM
Sep 2015

Who cares if Single Payer didn't have political support then (or in 2010); much better to leave millions without coverage as long as you can feel virtuous?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
55. You will have to define what "coverage" meant in HillaryCare.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:09 PM
Sep 2015

Threats don't really work.
Claims that "this is the best we could Dooooo
carry ZERO weight.
There is NO comparison between HillaryCare and expanding Medicare to ALL.
NONE.

Besides, being forced to dredge up something 32 years old,
and try to pass that ancient trash off as pertinent is very characteristic of you.
What has Hillary done lately?

Please Proceed.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
56. There is a good OP on Texas wind power. Funny is that I don't see any Clinton
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:59 PM
Sep 2015

logos in the responses. Not sure what to think. Do Clinton supporters not support wind power?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7192369

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
43. The MSM omitting facts is okay!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:50 PM
Sep 2015

As long as it favors Hillary.

Rat bastards. I honestly wonder how they sleep at night. I hope Edward R. Murrow haunts them in their sleep!

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
45. A neighbor of mine was the news director of our local PBS station
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 09:20 PM
Sep 2015

we had lunch not long ago, and she told me that journalists don't need any kind of degree to be journalists. Her degree was in foreign affairs, but other journalists have undergrad degrees that have nothing to do whatsoever with their jobs. That explains a lot!

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
52. Adopting Bernie's Platform - but can we really believe her?
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:43 PM
Sep 2015

In the last couple days she's said she is the "outsider" candidate, she spoke out against income inequality, she has finally taken a position against the Keystone Pipeline, and now this. All after months of silence. It appears her handlers finally understand what the voters are looking for. But does she mean it?

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
58. Why not do it earlier Bernie's been there it easy to introduce legislation...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 02:16 AM
Sep 2015

its harder to get it passed after all he only had 3 bill ever passed in 26 or 28 yrs...or whatever since he says he is an outsider.

Hillary has been out of elected office for sometime but she was heavily invested in healthcare reform far before Mr. Sanders.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
63. this is why I say now that hillary's campaign slogon should be, "Yeah, me too!"
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:13 AM
Sep 2015

because she seems to come out with these various grand announcements AFTER Bernie said them previously but got no media attention.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
66. That's very good. "Hillary 2016: Me too!"
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 11:57 AM
Sep 2015

Actually it would be Me Three! since O'Malley is usually ahead of her too.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
65. To your last question
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 11:54 AM
Sep 2015

Marketing. That is the Corporate focus. Marketing and Advertising. We are less citizens than consumers, these days.

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