2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI googled Bernie Drug Proposal and look what came up.
Last edited Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:09 AM - Edit history (6)
Hillary Clinton taking on drug industry
Politico - 5 hours ago
Bernie Sanders, who released a similar plan earlier this month. New drugs with high price ...
Clinton to Propose New Rules for Drug Makers
Wall Street Journal - 14 hours ago
Hillary calls Rx price 'outrageous,' vows action
CNBC - 1 day ago (Note: This one is REALLY priceless!)
Note to Politico - Bernie's wasn't a plan - he introduced legislation along with Cummings.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-cummings-introduce-comprehensive-legislation-to-lower-soaring-drug-prices_---
Oh that corporate media, they are just so out to get Hillary. And if this doesn't give you chills over the state of our fourth estate...
I still don't get that guy who went on TV and just said - no I don't plan to lower the price. Who does that? It's really strange. I don't recall ever seeing something like this.... Let me clarify. I don't think it would be too difficult for someone to talk this schmuck into pulling such a move. It really doesn't take a genius to manipulate a situation.
https://www.google.com/#q=Bernie+Drug+proposal
Note. Whether or not this gets a lot of recommends will really say something about this board - well a lot more than the easily manipulated stats they like to throw around (e.g., how many people are in the Bernie Group vs the Hillary Group).
Thanks for the recommends. I figured with the flattering Clinton comments I had a shot, unlike some of my other posts that focus on Bernie.
Update: So do you think you need a journalism degree or a marketing degree to write for online media? I'd say the latter.
Response to Skwmom (Original post)
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Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Bernies' drug thing, crickets from the MSM.
That's messed up.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Enough said!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)but managing to get the credit
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)She'll continue getting accolades for her courage and decisiveness from her supporters too.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Putin was right when he said Russia didn't have anything on the U.S. . This was in response to us telling him to cut out the propaganda and the manipulation of the masses.
Enthusiast
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passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)She's been stealing his glory ever since he got in the race. Wherever and whenever she can.
And her supporters just buy into it and think she's wonderful.
And yes...the media really sucks.
demwing
(16,916 posts)But they sure are selling the hell out of it on DU...
pandr32
(11,615 posts)You did know that HC fought for national healthcare reform, including capping prescription prices, as early as 1993...right? The Republican push back was fast and furious.
You made an unfair and unsubstantiated statement.
Keep this in mind...this is a site for democrats. As democrats we need to support our nominee whether male or female. We haven't even had our debates yet and there may be more candidates.
Stop the bull.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)and from what I've seen here on DU, my opinion is most likely correct for many HRC supporters. I'm sure not all.
HRC's health plan was very complicated and it was not single payer, so no props from me on that.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Do you really think Bernie's supporters distrust Clinton because she's a woman?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Stop the bull indeed!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)she then dropped it like it was a rancid turd when the S (socialist) word got bandied about, not mentioned seriously again until 2008 and then by Barack Obama
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)and putting great ideas to our brand. Her words carry a lot of weight. Very good illustration of that.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)would have "fixed" getting raped by the Pharm Companies. No Pharm Company could stand up the Collective Bargaining Power of a NATION enrolled in Medicare.
Is Hillary just now finding out about this problem?
Bernie has been fighting it for 8 years and longer.
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their promises.
Yup.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)to go to Canada for prescription drugs with a group of Seniors. There are articles about it, it has been posted here.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Where has she been for the last 8 years....or the last 24 years?
Of course, this is just Campaign Speak from Hillary that can evaporate immediately after the election.
Bernie's long time work to get Medicare for All (Everybody IN, nobody OUT) has the collective bargaining power to drive down Prescription Prices is written in HISTORY.
Prescription prices would be a non-issue IF we had a true, NATIONAL single payer system.
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their promises.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)I've been listening to him for 13 years, and his message and positions have never changed.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Hillary just found out about it yesterday. She's really on the ball, that one.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)She's been listening, y'see.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)In 2003, she voted to ban the government from negotiating with Big Pharma on drug prices.
Just as she used to be opposed to same-sex marriage -- even testified to that fact -- but came around after about 70 percent of the country decided it was OK. Day late and a dollar short. (But then, according to Bill, Hillary is "uncomfortable" around gay people.)
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)ornotna
(10,807 posts)1. Negotiate A Better Deal
Require Medicare to use its bargaining power to negotiate with the prescription drug companies for better prices a practice that is currently banned by law.
Last year there were more than 37 million Medicare beneficiaries enrolled in private Part D plans. 90 percent of seniors take at least one prescription. Many seniors almost two-thirds take three or more prescription drugs.
Not only would negotiation substantially reduce prices seniors and people with disabilities pay for drugs, it could save Medicare between $230 billion to $541 billion dollars over the next decade.
83 percent of Americans support allowing the federal government to negotiate with drug companies for better prices.
The rest is here. https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-to-lower-prescription-drug-prices/
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You're ruining a good meme: "Bernie doesn't have a plan, he just likes to complain"
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Just legislation proposals. Totally different, doncha know!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)We're just making them up to ruin the limelight Hillary is supposed to be basking in!
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)is bliss.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Me too! Me too!
Yawn...day late and dollar short.
randys1
(16,286 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)You are SO right.
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)I googled the same thing and got the same "rigged" responses.
Want to know why?
Because the first listings are NEWS responses. TODAY's news. The day the media reported on YESTERDAY's Clinton proposal. Which WASN'T the day Sanders made a Health Care proposal OR introduced legislation in the Senate (that was September 10' two weeks ago).
If you don't like Google's search alogrithms, I would demand a refund for every penny you've paid to use them, and switch to another one. Or try to come up with a more creative conspiracy theory.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 22, 2015, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)
Some of those titles are downright cheerleading for her.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)I am not Recing the thread either, but good for Clinton....she is indeed formidable, even the mass media seems to now be grudgingly admitting that as their EGazhi campaign tanks.
Good to see so many not be fooled by backhanded compliments.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)In regards to conspiracies, they happen all the time. Ever heard of Enron, the Eugenics Movement, etc. And conspiracy to commit this crime or that.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...to extend Medicare to All.
With a NATIONAL program (every IN, nobody OUT),
The collective bargaining power of All The People in the Country would, in fact, drive down the obscene prices we are having to pay.
This is documented HISTORY. It is in the Congressional Record.
not some BS campaign promise to be forgotten on Day One.
Where is Hillary's history of taking on the powerful interests?
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)Now, what does this have to do with the OP's complaint about Google?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Like Obama's ACA, HillaryCare was a transparent attempt to Privatize Health Care (Insurance).
It was NOT and would NEVER be a National Single Payer system.
If I had been in Congress, I would have voted against that convoluted 3000 page mess.
Did you know that the bill submitted to expand Medicare was ONE page long.
Easy for ANY American to read and understand,
and NO loopholes, trap doors, no escape hatches put in by the lobbyists that wrote it.
brooklynite
(94,737 posts)Who cares if Single Payer didn't have political support then (or in 2010); much better to leave millions without coverage as long as you can feel virtuous?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Threats don't really work.
Claims that "this is the best we could Dooooo
carry ZERO weight.
There is NO comparison between HillaryCare and expanding Medicare to ALL.
NONE.
Besides, being forced to dredge up something 32 years old,
and try to pass that ancient trash off as pertinent is very characteristic of you.
What has Hillary done lately?
Please Proceed.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)logos in the responses. Not sure what to think. Do Clinton supporters not support wind power?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7192369
longship
(40,416 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)As long as it favors Hillary.
Rat bastards. I honestly wonder how they sleep at night. I hope Edward R. Murrow haunts them in their sleep!
Lorien
(31,935 posts)we had lunch not long ago, and she told me that journalists don't need any kind of degree to be journalists. Her degree was in foreign affairs, but other journalists have undergrad degrees that have nothing to do whatsoever with their jobs. That explains a lot!
Ned Flanders
(233 posts)In the last couple days she's said she is the "outsider" candidate, she spoke out against income inequality, she has finally taken a position against the Keystone Pipeline, and now this. All after months of silence. It appears her handlers finally understand what the voters are looking for. But does she mean it?
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Thanks for the thread, Skwmom.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)its harder to get it passed after all he only had 3 bill ever passed in 26 or 28 yrs...or whatever since he says he is an outsider.
Hillary has been out of elected office for sometime but she was heavily invested in healthcare reform far before Mr. Sanders.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)because she seems to come out with these various grand announcements AFTER Bernie said them previously but got no media attention.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Actually it would be Me Three! since O'Malley is usually ahead of her too.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)... to be able to breathe.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Marketing. That is the Corporate focus. Marketing and Advertising. We are less citizens than consumers, these days.