NH CNN poll: Sanders beats Trump by 20 points. Hillary wins by only 8

[jfern]

Sanders wins by 20, Biden by 19. But hey, lets go with the candidate who does 11 or 12 points worse than the other two. Because she's "electable".

Clinton 50 Trump 42
Sanders 57 Trump 37
Biden 56 Trump 37

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/politics/poll-new-hampshire-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

[NuclearDem]

1. So, remind me: is today a "CNN polls good" day?

[jfern]

2. Yesterday's NH CNN poll where Sanders was up 46-30 in the primary was good too

[morningfog]

3. You tell me. When do you like CNN polls.

Do you have a problem with this one?

[Cheese Sandwich]

4. I got excited but then realized this was a poll in new hampshire

For a second I thought it was nation wide. It's good to know NH's 4 electoral votes will probably stay blue.

[Cheese Sandwich]

5. This is great though because NH is kind of a bellwether state

Somewhat anyway

[sabrina 1]

6. That makes Bernie the most electable candidate on the Dem Side, he wipes the floor with

Repubs like Trump who just might make it to the nomination. Things really are that bad on the other side!

[book_worm]

17. Well, true in a way--but

Biden almost equals him and he hasn't been campaigning in the state at all. So to me the most impressive number is the Biden number.

[Garrett78]

7. The Dem will more than likely win NH regardless of who she/he is.

First of all, I don't think Trump will be the Republican nominee. Secondly, few states (FL, OH, CO, VA) are in question and NH ain't one of 'em.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

8. Clinton on the ballot = More Republicans voting.

[Garrett78]

9. That is a valid concern.

I think there are a couple of reasons why Clinton supporters insinuate over and over and over again that all criticism of Clinton is from the right, thus denying the very valid leftist critique. One reason is the ignorance of that leftist critique, or a refusal to accept that having a 'D' next to one's name isn't the end-all-be-all. Another reason is that Clinton has, in fact, been the target of an immense amount of irrational right wing attacks.

So, as favorable as the electoral college map is, Clinton may just be too polarizing to win the battleground state(s) that the Democratic nominee needs to win. While Big Banks, Big Ag, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex et al. don't really have much problem with Clinton (they'll donate as much or more to her than to her opponent), right wingers despise her. They absolutely loathe all things Clinton. I still think she's more likely than anyone else running to become the next POTUS, but her favorable:unfavorable ratio should be taken into account.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

10. I've seen Clinton supporters who act like they're in love....

They don't CARE about "issues". They care about HER.

[840high]

12. That troubles me.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. It troubles THEM that you don't feel the same unconditional love.

[juajen]

13. Hmmm, pot calling kettle black!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. Oh yeah, then there's the classic projection....

[Mnpaul]

18. I chuckled at how they spun this story at kos

New CNN Poll: Clinton Defeating Trump in NH by nearly 10%
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/26/1425053/-New-CNN-Poll-Clinton-Defeating-Trump-in-NH-by-nearly-10

There was no mention of Bernie's huge lead but someone quickly chimed in.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

21. I know someone who watches CNN....

He thinks it's all futile because both sides are equally bad. It's always been that way, it's always going to be that way and there's nothing you can do about it.

[RBInMaine]

16. So you want Sanders so fewer people on the other side will vote? That's the Sanders strategy?

Do you really think that if a self described socialist is nominated that won't draw out TONS of Republicans? Keep dreaming.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. Sure I'll take lower Republican turnout for the win. You wouldn't?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. They called Obama a socialist too and he won....

"Socialism" doesn't have the sting you might think. (Especially around people on social security.)

A grandfatherly white guy isn't going to freak them out when he goes after rich people and corporations for not paying their fair share of taxes.

Now hate for the CLINTONS is another thing. The idea of seeing Bill and Hill back in the White House for another eight years is going to make conservatives consider carpooling to the polls.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Bernie's actions, message and track record are best suited to counter Republican propaganda

attempts at dividing and conquering the American People.

Thanks for the thread, jfern.

[stevenleser]

20. 3 years of attacks against Hillary. GOP hasn't started in in Bernie yet

If and when the GOP gets finished with Bernie, he won't be able to get within 10 points of anyone currently running for the nomination on the GOP side.

That is why every conservative pundit I debate for the last 4 months wants to talk up Bernie. They all know the GOP can grind him into the ground easily. He's the one they want to run against. I finally got one of them to admit it on air.