2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders WILL NOT choose anyone from Wall Street for his cabinet:
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portlander23
(2,078 posts)Oh. Right.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He threatens the goose that lays the golden eggs.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)For this very reason. He threatens the goose that lays the golden egg. All of them have their hand in the candy jar. Except Bernie, of course.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)political endorsements and the lack thereof for Bernie. I told her it just proves who she SHOULD be supporting as the endorsement score clearly shows Hillary is in the bag for the Plutocrats and not us.
I just don't understand her supporters (the not rich ones). I hope that they support Bernie when he wins. It's clear that we are better off with who ever wins the Democratic nomination and I think either would beat the Republican nominee. I do worry that Clinton would have more trouble because she is so polarizing to the Right, more Republicans will come out to vote. Bernie will actually draw Republicans away from their nominee whoever it may be!
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)We should be able to out vote that small amount.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Wall Street wealth isn't the same as it was decades ago. Wall Street wealth used to represent successful American manufacturing and the good jobs that resulted. This is no longer the case. Wall Street has been doing fabulous, the rest of us not so much.
THERE IS NO TRICKLE DOWN.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Wall Street used to be useful. No longer.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Was that a "problem" for the goose?
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Since she has experience on the board of directors for Walmart?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)cabinets.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)Mainly because he will never get to choose a cabinet, well, maybe some kitchen cabinets.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Well I figure that Jamie Dimon (filthy fucking Bankster criminal) is licking his chops at the thought of a position in Hill's Wall Street Administration.
At least she won't get the chance to bring in such scoundrels, since Americans will never, ever vote her in...Hill burnout runs very, VERY deep...and when she comes out of hiding and appears at the rigged up debates, Americans will quickly be reminded of why they don't like, nor trust her.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)moobu2
(4,822 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Never assume that Hillary will win. She is ahead in the national polls, but in places like New Hampshire where the voters really get to know Bernie, he does extremely well.
Either candidate could win the nomination.
Election results cannot be predicted this far out.
Bernie is a great candidate. Those of us who support him enjoy the luxury of knowing that we will never have to excuse or apologize for his being bought by any moneyed interest in the country.
It is a wonderful thing to know that you are supporting an honest candidate who will not use negative advertisements to embarrass or denigrate the candidates who are opposing him in the race.
I really like Bernie. When I wear my Bernie pin, people comment and tell me how much they love hin. All it takes is for a person to listen to Bernie talk about the state of the country and his proposals for improving the lives of ordinary Americans, and 9 times out of ten, they start backing Bernie.
So, we can never be sure what the outcome of elections will be.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I've seen your posts - you don't like challenge.
You're very comfortable in your established way of life.
Bravo for you.
Just stop standing in our way.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)are the people who support him.
And him, since he has no clue about how economics work.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The man is 100% clueless and suggest unworkable plans that would never be passed.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Sorry for your portfolio.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Sorry about your dream of a collective.
Everybody knows that stuff won't work.
Just ask FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ, because they were just fooling us.
It was all smoke and mirrors that build the largest, wealthiest, and most upwardly mobile Middle/Working Class the WORLD had ever seen.
..and don't forget the Scandinavian Countries....doesn't work there either, does it?
You oppose "collectives"?
You DO realize that ALL political Parties are (ugh) "collectives".... yes, even the Hillary Party is a collective.
I would list all the "Socialist" programs that, according to you can't work,
but I don't have the inclination to do so at this point.
You can find them under:
*FDRs "New Deal"
*Truman's "Fair Deal"
LBJ's "Great Society, War on Poverty, and Civil Rights Act."
...because, of course, none of these worked, did they.
GO and research these "collective" programs, and report back about how they didn't work,
OK?
.
.
.
You......really need to brush up on Democratic Party History.
That will save you from making embarrassing posts in the future.
No Charge.
Oh man, you got me. I thought you seriously believed the bullshit spouted by Sanders had anything to do with what FDR, Truman, JFK, or LBJ did.
You do realize the Democratic Socialists DESPISED FDR, right?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..and instead tried to get away with a transparent diversion.
Are you sure you didn't get lost on the way to the Beavis & Butthead Chatroom at AOL.
and wandered in here by mistake??
If you ever care to discuss POLICY, I'll be here,
but you have A LOT of catching up to do,
especially the History of the Democratic Party.
Good luck with your studies.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)You people are making enough rules around here.
I don't play your games because you make up the rules as you go.
Sanders is a fool. He's all unicorns and rainbows and has no capability to ever deliver on a single promise because even if by some MIRACLE he did become president, the Congress would never work with him and he wouldn't even have the power of the veto because the Congress would override his bullshit time after time after time. I am not getting on your magic bus to the promised Bernieland because IT DOES NOT AND WILL NEVER EXIST!
I won't vote for him. Ever.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)[font size=3]"Sanders is a fool. He's all unicorns and rainbows. "[/font]---MohRokTah
You know, the Republicans said the same things about FDR, before he beat the living shit out of them.
You really should study the History of the Democratic Party.
That would save you so much personal embarrassment.
[font size=3]"I won't vote for him. Ever."[/font]--MohRokTah.
I hope that means you will leave DU when Bernie wins the Democratic nomination.
If so...
You know, there IS another website where you will fit right in.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)What part of I don't play that bullshit don't you get?
Also, as has been so eloquently expressed time after time by BS supporters right here on DU, there is no mandate to leave DU if you are not going to vote for the nominee. You simply must refrain from talking about it after the primaries are over.
Not that this will be a problem because there is no way in Hell the Democratic Party is stupid enough to nominate a socialist for the presidency.
think
(11,641 posts)A tax on Wall Street transactions?
Investing in America's infrastructure while creating jobs?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Poor, poor MohRokTah.
Response to Fawke Em (Reply #83)
MohRokTah This message was self-deleted by its author.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)think
(11,641 posts)You have no problem saying he's a unicorn promising con man but when it comes down to an actual discussion of the issues you claim that it's unfair.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Hillary can kiss my ass, the trangulating, Wall-Street-loving, fracking-supporting sultana.
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MohRokTah This message was self-deleted by its author.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I thought you were walking away...
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)At least I'm positive any Sanders supporters who will refuse to vote for Hillary after she wins the nomination hands down would have never voted for a Democrat any way.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)and why are they "unworkable"? Instead of hit-and-run comments, enlighten us on the Sanders plans that are unworkable, and of course include WHY you feel they are unworkable.
From my perspective his positions seem mostly common sense.
I sense in you a total disgust for the man ("doesn't know economics" "is 100% clueless" . I suppose it is safe to assume he would not garner your vote even if he were the nominee. Too bad really.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)chooses nothing but for her cabinet?
I'm sure that would be a good thing for all of us.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They know how the game works, which is why they can actually make things work.
Putting idiots in positions who have no clue what they are doing is what Bush did to FEMA.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)game the system for themselves are qualifity to play.
Nice work for them, same shit for the rest of us. Thanks again for making me sure that I'm backing the right candidate.
Have a lovely evening!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)a lovely evening illegal?
Jackilope
(819 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)He knew how the game worked, right, MohRokTah?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You live with it; I don't have to.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)But nice attempt to get a rise out of me for an alert.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)But yeah, I kind of smoked you, dude. Care to make a wager and get an honest broker to adjudicate the contest for us? $100 to DU from the loser?
Your next non-answer will emphatically show you can't back up a word you've said. Goodbye now.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)They're able to work this out on their own. Logic and rationality, applied to the written word, is of those cornerstones of a functioning society. Of course, one sees lots of examples in which logic and rational thought are impugned, disdained, and ignored. Think right-wing cable howler monkeys screaming over one another. That's what comes of a society that does not value rational thought, but instead relies on shriller and shriller versions of "nuh uh...it's you, not me", without a single brain cell being taxed to actually provide some sort of rationale. That should frighten people. Unfortunately, adherents to that sort of garbage are typically proud of themselves for having out-jabbered their opponent of the moment. Those are Republican bottom dwellers. You're not that guy, so please do just resolve to raise the discourse a little, and to work with a set of ground rules that all thoughtful people incorporated into their daily lives long ago.
But anyway, was my last post prescient or what?
murielm99
(30,745 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, Fawke Em.
concreteblue
(626 posts)The Shillaries have gone into "unskewed" territory!
ROFLMAO.......
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)All spouting the same lame phrase.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... I don't see the value in alienating every sector of people the rabid left calls demons
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)and well known in what seems to them to be a very short time will watch Thom Hartmann's Brunch with Bernie.
Bernie takes all questions, and answers each intelligently. He clearly did not have enough time to fully answer the very broad question about how he will fund his programs. He gave a solid partial answer, but the question will require more detail than can be given in a one half hour show.
This is just typical Bernie. It is excellent. Bernie is right there and knows and understands every question and is knowledgeable on every issue. When there is an issue that he is not completely familiar with or on which he has not yet reached his opinion or to which he has not found a solution, he says so but in his manner and voice you understand that any issue he has not yet tackled, he will tackle.
I would like to see Hillary appear on Thom's show on Brunch with Hillary. I wonder how she would do? I believe that Thom has invited all the candidates who wish to appear on his show. The format is quite fair and friendly to the candidate.
But I do hope that the newscasters who are perplexed by Bernie's popularity will tune into this program.. I think it will help them understand who Bernie is and why so many of us like him so much.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I mean, seriously?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Any other industries or job titles that should disqualify someone?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)State.
Or, someone from the chemical industry running the department of agriculture.
Or, someone running private prisons as Attorney General.
Or, a CEO of a pharmaceutical corporation running the Department of Health and Human Services.
Or, a CEO from the Banking Industry running Treasury or Commerce.
Or, a land developer running HUD.
Or, someone who runs a charter school in charge of Education.
Or, someone from the trucking industry to run transportation.
Or, any CEO of any company running Labor.
Or, anyone from the logging industry running Interior.
As for Homeland Security I don't want anyone running it. I want it abolished.
How about you?
AppalachianAmerican
(42 posts)being interrogated for the crimes that brought down the global economy.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)In June 2006, Lew was named chief operating officer of Citigroup's Alternative Investments unit, a proprietary trading group. The unit he oversaw invested in a hedge fund "that bet on the housing market to collapse."[22] During his work at Citigroup, Lew had invested heavily in funds in Ugland House while he worked as an investment banker at Citigroup during the 2008 financial meltdown.[23] Lew also had oversight of Citigroup subsidiaries in countries including, Bermuda, the Cayman Islands, and Hong Kong; and during his time at Citigroup, Citigroup subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands increased to 113.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lew
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The new one at Commerce too, I guess.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Isn't that what candidates for public office do? ... well, if they have any integrity that is.
I know all candidates don't campaign that way, they obfuscate and use weasel words; but
I find it refreshing that he's telling voters what they can expect, if he's elected.