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Sanders WILL NOT choose anyone from Wall Street for his cabinet: (Original Post) Fawke Em Sep 2015 OP
... but then he'll have to return all that Wall Street Super PAC money portlander23 Sep 2015 #1
Ha! Fawke Em Sep 2015 #2
And that's the 'problem' AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #3
The problem for whom? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #7
The 1 percent - not us average folks. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #8
Hence no endorsements from politicians AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #9
I had to point that out to a Hillary supporter who was bragging on all of Clinton's Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #32
1 percent is 3 million voters yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #38
Only the wealthy few have access to the golden eggs. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #30
No more Wall Streeters. Cenk Uygur's Team looks good. Add Pikkety with a visa. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #80
Absolutely! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #90
Obama didn't put anyone from Wall Street in his cabinet Recursion Sep 2015 #58
This alone is reason enough to vote for him. nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #4
Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air? eom Fawke Em Sep 2015 #13
Does that exclude Hillary Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #5
! Fawke Em Sep 2015 #14
FFS does that count as "Wall Street" now? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #65
I hope their feelings won't be hurt. aidbo Sep 2015 #6
Good and that is a question all candidates should be asked, who will they have in their sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #10
I can believe that moobu2 Sep 2015 #11
Uh huh... SoapBox Sep 2015 #21
That is a mean spirited thing to say. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #31
You must not read any Bernie worshipers comments if you think that was mean. moobu2 Sep 2015 #61
How can you be so sure? JDPriestly Sep 2015 #45
Makes sense since he'll never have to choose a cabinet. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #12
Sez the insider. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #15
. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #17
I purposely misspelled. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #40
The only people standing in the way of Sanders... MohRokTah Sep 2015 #41
You mean how economics work for YOU. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #42
I mean how economics work period. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #43
I know supply side doesn't work. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #47
I know Sandernomics is total bullshit. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #48
Yeah. bvar22 Sep 2015 #70
. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #73
I see (and everyone else saw too) that you FAILED the challenge, bvar22 Sep 2015 #74
I don't play your games. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #75
Can you please provide some links to support your position that bvar22 Sep 2015 #76
Again, you demand I play YOUR games by YOUR rules. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #77
What economic ideas of Sanders aren't feasible? Single payer? $15 minimum wage? think Sep 2015 #78
I don't play YOUR games by YOUR rules, eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #79
In other words, you can't answer the question. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Sep 2015 #85
You don't walk very fast. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #86
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Sep 2015 #89
How is discussing the issues you call unicorns & rainbows in anyway "playing games"? think Sep 2015 #91
Do you realize parties have changed since then? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Sep 2015 #84
Ooohhh... you're scared. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #87
No, I'm disgusted. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #88
What plans would those be NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #60
That's exactly what I was going to post. He won't have to deal with this issue. Metric System Sep 2015 #16
Because they consult you, right? roguevalley Sep 2015 #23
So you're hoping Hillary.... daleanime Sep 2015 #18
I have no problem with Wall Street insiders being appointed to appropriate positions. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #22
And of course only insiders who have and will.... daleanime Sep 2015 #25
What you suggest is illegal. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #26
Why would anyone make.... daleanime Sep 2015 #27
Ah, the game .... which is why we don't have single payer or even public option. Jackilope Sep 2015 #35
You are adorable. nt TeamPooka Sep 2015 #36
Ted Bundy could have helped us catch serial killers who like to murder women. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #49
And bicycles could also be fish. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #50
I used precisely the logic you did. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #51
No, you didn't MohRokTah Sep 2015 #52
Don't care to alert on you, at least not at this point. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #53
Yeah, like I'm supposed to believe you. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #54
Not necessarily. Those who possess adult logic constructs needn't believe me. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #55
Sanders isn't going to have a cabinet. n/t murielm99 Sep 2015 #19
Sorry, no cabinet for Sanders leftofcool Sep 2015 #20
ah. sad roguevalley Sep 2015 #24
Kicked and recommended! We absolutely must elect Bernie! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #29
Wow.... concreteblue Sep 2015 #33
And they are so original. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #37
Truth. They have completely lost it. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #81
It would not bother me if he did, FDR's cabinet was effective with many from Wall Street... uponit7771 Sep 2015 #34
Geez - another No Shit Sherlock moment FreakinDJ Sep 2015 #39
I hope that those in the Mainstream Media who cannot figure out how Bernie became so popular JDPriestly Sep 2015 #44
K&R. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #46
I'd rather see no cabinet than one packed with banksters and CEOs. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #56
You think anyone who's worked in the banking industry or as a CEO shouldn't be in the cabinet? Recursion Sep 2015 #62
Yes. I see it as a conflict of interest. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #63
Wow Recursion Sep 2015 #64
Well, I wouldn't want to see someone from the defense industry running the department of defense or Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #66
I'd like to see most of them at the DOJ... AppalachianAmerican Sep 2015 #71
Who from Wall Street did Obama put on his cabinet? (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #57
Jack Lew, Sec. of Treasury, comes to mind 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #67
Thanks, I missed Lew Recursion Sep 2015 #72
He's getting alittle ahead of himself. FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #59
He's candidly telling voters what they can (and can't) expect, once he's elected POTUS 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #68
Good. That's one group who don't need any more representation than they already have Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #69
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
9. Hence no endorsements from politicians
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:46 PM
Sep 2015

For this very reason. He threatens the goose that lays the golden egg. All of them have their hand in the candy jar. Except Bernie, of course.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
32. I had to point that out to a Hillary supporter who was bragging on all of Clinton's
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:00 AM
Sep 2015

political endorsements and the lack thereof for Bernie. I told her it just proves who she SHOULD be supporting as the endorsement score clearly shows Hillary is in the bag for the Plutocrats and not us.

I just don't understand her supporters (the not rich ones). I hope that they support Bernie when he wins. It's clear that we are better off with who ever wins the Democratic nomination and I think either would beat the Republican nominee. I do worry that Clinton would have more trouble because she is so polarizing to the Right, more Republicans will come out to vote. Bernie will actually draw Republicans away from their nominee whoever it may be!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
30. Only the wealthy few have access to the golden eggs.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:53 PM
Sep 2015

Wall Street wealth isn't the same as it was decades ago. Wall Street wealth used to represent successful American manufacturing and the good jobs that resulted. This is no longer the case. Wall Street has been doing fabulous, the rest of us not so much.

THERE IS NO TRICKLE DOWN.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
11. I can believe that
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

Mainly because he will never get to choose a cabinet, well, maybe some kitchen cabinets.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
21. Uh huh...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:23 PM
Sep 2015

Well I figure that Jamie Dimon (filthy fucking Bankster criminal) is licking his chops at the thought of a position in Hill's Wall Street Administration.

At least she won't get the chance to bring in such scoundrels, since Americans will never, ever vote her in...Hill burnout runs very, VERY deep...and when she comes out of hiding and appears at the rigged up debates, Americans will quickly be reminded of why they don't like, nor trust her.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
45. How can you be so sure?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:16 AM
Sep 2015

Never assume that Hillary will win. She is ahead in the national polls, but in places like New Hampshire where the voters really get to know Bernie, he does extremely well.

Either candidate could win the nomination.

Election results cannot be predicted this far out.

Bernie is a great candidate. Those of us who support him enjoy the luxury of knowing that we will never have to excuse or apologize for his being bought by any moneyed interest in the country.

It is a wonderful thing to know that you are supporting an honest candidate who will not use negative advertisements to embarrass or denigrate the candidates who are opposing him in the race.

I really like Bernie. When I wear my Bernie pin, people comment and tell me how much they love hin. All it takes is for a person to listen to Bernie talk about the state of the country and his proposals for improving the lives of ordinary Americans, and 9 times out of ten, they start backing Bernie.

So, we can never be sure what the outcome of elections will be.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
40. I purposely misspelled.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:51 AM
Sep 2015

I've seen your posts - you don't like challenge.

You're very comfortable in your established way of life.

Bravo for you.

Just stop standing in our way.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
41. The only people standing in the way of Sanders...
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:54 AM
Sep 2015

are the people who support him.

And him, since he has no clue about how economics work.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
43. I mean how economics work period.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:05 AM
Sep 2015

The man is 100% clueless and suggest unworkable plans that would never be passed.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
70. Yeah.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:06 PM
Sep 2015

Everybody knows that stuff won't work.
Just ask FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ, because they were just fooling us.
It was all smoke and mirrors that build the largest, wealthiest, and most upwardly mobile Middle/Working Class the WORLD had ever seen.

..and don't forget the Scandinavian Countries....doesn't work there either, does it?


You oppose "collectives"?
You DO realize that ALL political Parties are (ugh) "collectives".... yes, even the Hillary Party is a collective.

I would list all the "Socialist" programs that, according to you can't work,
but I don't have the inclination to do so at this point.

You can find them under:
*FDRs "New Deal"

*Truman's "Fair Deal"

LBJ's "Great Society, War on Poverty, and Civil Rights Act."
...because, of course, none of these worked, did they.


GO and research these "collective" programs, and report back about how they didn't work,
OK?
.
.
.
You......really need to brush up on Democratic Party History.
That will save you from making embarrassing posts in the future.


No Charge.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
73. .
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:51 PM
Sep 2015


Oh man, you got me. I thought you seriously believed the bullshit spouted by Sanders had anything to do with what FDR, Truman, JFK, or LBJ did.



You do realize the Democratic Socialists DESPISED FDR, right?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
74. I see (and everyone else saw too) that you FAILED the challenge,
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 06:59 PM
Sep 2015

..and instead tried to get away with a transparent diversion.

Are you sure you didn't get lost on the way to the Beavis & Butthead Chatroom at AOL.
and wandered in here by mistake??


If you ever care to discuss POLICY, I'll be here,
but you have A LOT of catching up to do,
especially the History of the Democratic Party.

Good luck with your studies.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
75. I don't play your games.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:02 PM
Sep 2015

You people are making enough rules around here.

I don't play your games because you make up the rules as you go.

Sanders is a fool. He's all unicorns and rainbows and has no capability to ever deliver on a single promise because even if by some MIRACLE he did become president, the Congress would never work with him and he wouldn't even have the power of the veto because the Congress would override his bullshit time after time after time. I am not getting on your magic bus to the promised Bernieland because IT DOES NOT AND WILL NEVER EXIST!

I won't vote for him. Ever.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
76. Can you please provide some links to support your position that
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:21 PM
Sep 2015

[font size=3]"Sanders is a fool. He's all unicorns and rainbows. "[/font]---MohRokTah
You know, the Republicans said the same things about FDR, before he beat the living shit out of them.
You really should study the History of the Democratic Party.
That would save you so much personal embarrassment.

[font size=3]"I won't vote for him. Ever."[/font]--MohRokTah.

I hope that means you will leave DU when Bernie wins the Democratic nomination.
If so...


You know, there IS another website where you will fit right in.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
77. Again, you demand I play YOUR games by YOUR rules.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:29 PM
Sep 2015

What part of I don't play that bullshit don't you get?

Also, as has been so eloquently expressed time after time by BS supporters right here on DU, there is no mandate to leave DU if you are not going to vote for the nominee. You simply must refrain from talking about it after the primaries are over.

Not that this will be a problem because there is no way in Hell the Democratic Party is stupid enough to nominate a socialist for the presidency.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
78. What economic ideas of Sanders aren't feasible? Single payer? $15 minimum wage?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:39 PM
Sep 2015

A tax on Wall Street transactions?

Investing in America's infrastructure while creating jobs?

Response to Fawke Em (Reply #83)

 

think

(11,641 posts)
91. How is discussing the issues you call unicorns & rainbows in anyway "playing games"?
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:23 AM
Sep 2015

You have no problem saying he's a unicorn promising con man but when it comes down to an actual discussion of the issues you claim that it's unfair.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
82. Do you realize parties have changed since then?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:07 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary can kiss my ass, the trangulating, Wall-Street-loving, fracking-supporting sultana.

Response to Fawke Em (Reply #82)

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
88. No, I'm disgusted.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:00 PM
Sep 2015

At least I'm positive any Sanders supporters who will refuse to vote for Hillary after she wins the nomination hands down would have never voted for a Democrat any way.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
60. What plans would those be
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:04 AM
Sep 2015

and why are they "unworkable"? Instead of hit-and-run comments, enlighten us on the Sanders plans that are unworkable, and of course include WHY you feel they are unworkable.

From my perspective his positions seem mostly common sense.

I sense in you a total disgust for the man ("doesn't know economics" "is 100% clueless&quot . I suppose it is safe to assume he would not garner your vote even if he were the nominee. Too bad really.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
18. So you're hoping Hillary....
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:18 PM
Sep 2015

chooses nothing but for her cabinet?

I'm sure that would be a good thing for all of us.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
22. I have no problem with Wall Street insiders being appointed to appropriate positions.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:23 PM
Sep 2015

They know how the game works, which is why they can actually make things work.

Putting idiots in positions who have no clue what they are doing is what Bush did to FEMA.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
25. And of course only insiders who have and will....
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:42 PM
Sep 2015

game the system for themselves are qualifity to play.


Nice work for them, same shit for the rest of us. Thanks again for making me sure that I'm backing the right candidate.

Have a lovely evening!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
49. Ted Bundy could have helped us catch serial killers who like to murder women.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:56 AM
Sep 2015

He knew how the game worked, right, MohRokTah?

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
53. Don't care to alert on you, at least not at this point.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:09 AM
Sep 2015

But yeah, I kind of smoked you, dude. Care to make a wager and get an honest broker to adjudicate the contest for us? $100 to DU from the loser?

Your next non-answer will emphatically show you can't back up a word you've said. Goodbye now.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
55. Not necessarily. Those who possess adult logic constructs needn't believe me.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:21 AM
Sep 2015

They're able to work this out on their own. Logic and rationality, applied to the written word, is of those cornerstones of a functioning society. Of course, one sees lots of examples in which logic and rational thought are impugned, disdained, and ignored. Think right-wing cable howler monkeys screaming over one another. That's what comes of a society that does not value rational thought, but instead relies on shriller and shriller versions of "nuh uh...it's you, not me", without a single brain cell being taxed to actually provide some sort of rationale. That should frighten people. Unfortunately, adherents to that sort of garbage are typically proud of themselves for having out-jabbered their opponent of the moment. Those are Republican bottom dwellers. You're not that guy, so please do just resolve to raise the discourse a little, and to work with a set of ground rules that all thoughtful people incorporated into their daily lives long ago.

But anyway, was my last post prescient or what?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
34. It would not bother me if he did, FDR's cabinet was effective with many from Wall Street...
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:56 AM
Sep 2015

... I don't see the value in alienating every sector of people the rabid left calls demons

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
44. I hope that those in the Mainstream Media who cannot figure out how Bernie became so popular
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:07 AM
Sep 2015

and well known in what seems to them to be a very short time will watch Thom Hartmann's Brunch with Bernie.

Bernie takes all questions, and answers each intelligently. He clearly did not have enough time to fully answer the very broad question about how he will fund his programs. He gave a solid partial answer, but the question will require more detail than can be given in a one half hour show.

This is just typical Bernie. It is excellent. Bernie is right there and knows and understands every question and is knowledgeable on every issue. When there is an issue that he is not completely familiar with or on which he has not yet reached his opinion or to which he has not found a solution, he says so but in his manner and voice you understand that any issue he has not yet tackled, he will tackle.

I would like to see Hillary appear on Thom's show on Brunch with Hillary. I wonder how she would do? I believe that Thom has invited all the candidates who wish to appear on his show. The format is quite fair and friendly to the candidate.

But I do hope that the newscasters who are perplexed by Bernie's popularity will tune into this program.. I think it will help them understand who Bernie is and why so many of us like him so much.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
62. You think anyone who's worked in the banking industry or as a CEO shouldn't be in the cabinet?
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:35 AM
Sep 2015


I mean, seriously?
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
66. Well, I wouldn't want to see someone from the defense industry running the department of defense or
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:11 PM
Sep 2015

State.

Or, someone from the chemical industry running the department of agriculture.

Or, someone running private prisons as Attorney General.

Or, a CEO of a pharmaceutical corporation running the Department of Health and Human Services.

Or, a CEO from the Banking Industry running Treasury or Commerce.

Or, a land developer running HUD.

Or, someone who runs a charter school in charge of Education.

Or, someone from the trucking industry to run transportation.

Or, any CEO of any company running Labor.

Or, anyone from the logging industry running Interior.

As for Homeland Security I don't want anyone running it. I want it abolished.

How about you?



 
71. I'd like to see most of them at the DOJ...
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:24 PM
Sep 2015

being interrogated for the crimes that brought down the global economy.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
67. Jack Lew, Sec. of Treasury, comes to mind
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:43 PM
Sep 2015

In June 2006, Lew was named chief operating officer of Citigroup's Alternative Investments unit, a proprietary trading group. The unit he oversaw invested in a hedge fund "that bet on the housing market to collapse."[22] During his work at Citigroup, Lew had invested heavily in funds in Ugland House while he worked as an investment banker at Citigroup during the 2008 financial meltdown.[23] Lew also had oversight of Citigroup subsidiaries in countries including, Bermuda, the Cayman Islands, and Hong Kong; and during his time at Citigroup, Citigroup subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands increased to 113.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lew

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
68. He's candidly telling voters what they can (and can't) expect, once he's elected POTUS
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

Isn't that what candidates for public office do? ... well, if they have any integrity that is.

I know all candidates don't campaign that way, they obfuscate and use weasel words; but
I find it refreshing that he's telling voters what they can expect, if he's elected.

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