Clinton to Dunham: ‘If you can’t get excited, be pragmatic’

[portlander23]

MSNBC: Clinton to Dunham: ‘If you can’t get excited, be pragmatic’

Clinton went on to urge young women to not “get turned off by the negativity and nastiness that is unfortunately too much in our politics today.”

“You kind of can cut through that and say, look, I not only have a right, I have an obligation to make a choice. That’s part of the service I pay for living in our country. So I’m going to vote for X or Y. Not because I think that person is perfect, but it’s going to be better than the alternative. If you can’t get excited, be pragmatic and do it anyway,” Clinton said.

[BlueWaveDem]

1. I'm very excited about the possibility of a first women president.

Besides being an excellent president, I think electing Obama also served as a societal good. And I believe electing a Democratic woman to presidency will also serve as a societal good. Especially in this day and age of constant continued assaults on woman's rights, the objectification of women, and the rise of men's rights activists, etc. Electing a woman to presidency will inspire a nation who wants to believe "anything is possible" to actually fulfill that belief. Go Hillary!

[monmouth4]

2. I'm excited about electing the first Jewish president. It would be historic and Bernie

is a smart choice..

[BlueWaveDem]

4. I prefer not to focus on religion in respect to politics.

I like a wall between the two. Focusing on merging religion and politics never ends well.

[hifiguy]

6. Jewishness is also an ethnicity.

[BlueWaveDem]

9. I had no idea.

Just kidding, I am Jewish, ethnicity is up for debate.

[JI7]

22. how old are you right now ?

senate 2030 ?

i guess it's not that long, just 15 years away.

[SusanaMontana41]

26. "Merging religion and politics never ends well"? Correction: It never ends.

Just ask any Republican.

[sabrina 1]

38. I do too. Bernie would be the first non-Christian president. Too much religion re our Presidents.

It's always expected that they be Christian, go to Church on Sunday, have close relationships with prominent Christian pastors and or Evangelicals.

It would set the tone to change that if Bernie were elected. Don't think there would be too much of same old religious influences surrounding the WH. Another reason why they will do everything to stop him.

[reformist2]

16. I'm hoping the first female president is Elizabeth Warren, not Hillary Clinton.

[SusanaMontana41]

27. Vote the chromosomes, not the candidate? Say hello to President Palin.

What is pragmatism to you? Checking your brain at the door before entering a voting booth?

[quickesst]

34. Welcome aboard

As you can tell by many of the replies to your post, any Pro Hillary mention will rapidly devolve into a nasty, muckraking, juvenile cesspool. It's what many Bernie supporters do, it's how they roll. You'll get used to it There are adults in that group, but I have not seen many who make an attempt to curb the vitriol. Shame.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. I'm always pragmatic when I vote.

I always vote for the candidate I think would make a good president. Which is why I won't vote for Hillary.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

23. Pretty much sums up her entire campaign, vote for me out of desperation and fear

yeah right.

Fear is all Hillary has to run on now, she offers nothing else her yeah what Bernie says campaign is a total sham and people see right through it.

[Hortensis]

28. So Tierra and Yaba, who is your choice in the GOP lineup? You

need a backup for Bernie, just in case.

[SusanaMontana41]

30. her "yeah, what Bernie says" campaign. KaBOOM.

Don't forget, she's an "outsider."

She was Elizabeth Warren before Elizabeth Warren.

We're plenty excited, Hillary. Just not for you.

FEEL THE BERN!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

5. If you can't get excited, be pragmatic. That'll look great on yard signs.

[hifiguy]

7. Won't it though.

"Hillary. Live with it, chumps."

[frylock]

8. HILLARY 2016: Meh....

[Doctor_J]

10. Hillary! you could do worse!

[Doctor_J]

11. Hillary: like JEB!, only female

[JoePhilly]

13. She's talking about the process, sparky.

I know a number of people who are not "excited" about voting, period.

And its not because of the candidates. Its because the government has become dysfunctional.

This has been a goal of the GOP. If they can get more and more voters to be discouraged, and stay home, the shrinking RW base maintains more influence than it should otherwise have.

So naturally, Democrats should help them in that endeavor.

Apparently.

[bettyellen]

14. She talking about people unexcited by all candidates, lol.....

I know loads of people who are so disgusted by politics they never really take much time to think about their votes. Especially when they are young and "idealistic".
They want a rock star, lol.... But ask too many people who are interested in politics are partisan assholes and they don't even want to get into it with them.

Young people don't vote, then they moan and groan about the state of the world. It would be awesome if attitudes change in this country and more good people felt an obligation to vote. It's great advice.

[JI7]

21. most elections are unexciting . especially when you exclude presidential elections

and based on this site some would think there are only presidential elections and a few senate , governors etc which get big media attention.

but there are local and other small level elections going on all the time.

and i personally find voting boring. like a chore having to fill out paperwork.

so what she says is correct. if you care about the issues these things matter and level of excitement should not matter.

[bettyellen]

25. the whole idea that it should be "exciting" is pretty immature and leads to the level of

disengagement we have. You see it here, with people expecting the POTUS to be a superhero and turning on him for not being all powerful- it feels like an ugly game show or something.

[restorefreedom]

12. hillary 2016

because i might be slightly better than trump.

wow...even she is trying to sell "vote for me cuz bernie can't win and i am better than trump."

sad.

[oasis]

15. 2 more Scalias on SCOTUS gets me excited AND pragmatic.

[Hortensis]

29. Right on point! The threat of 4 sends me to the liquor cabinet.

[oasis]

31. Supreme Court appointments are my #1 concern for 2016.

[Hortensis]

33. #1 here. "The Judges...shall hold their Offices during good behavior."

We would either have to amend the Constitution to limit terms or examine what good behavior is. Or both.

Notably, I just looked it up, and the first cluster of justices served less than 8 years each. After that, before the medical revolution, they averaged 12. Since 1975 they've averaged 25 years (!!!!), and that is expected to continue to rise. Especially with the GOP's determination to defeat demographic realities at the polls by appointing younger judges. Like Clarence Thomas, a bundle of character and personality deficits that promised to keep him the court's most intractable, conservative member.

[oasis]

35. I'd love to see a documentary on Clarence Thomas. <nt>

[Hortensis]

36. Me too. It would apparently be mixed. He's a charming man who's settled

in at the court and is not intellectually challenged. But, personality interferes greatly with intellect, which seems to always be the case in extremists, as well as the sort of people who are easily distracted by frequent petty resentments. He seems to completely lack "judicial temperament."

What I meant by reexamining "good behavior" would be to consider if decisions that varied too far from the tenor of the times and the will of the people, as well as from previously established law, constituted bad behavior. The conservatives on the court have learned they can be be activist from previous more liberal courts, the difference being those previous activist courts reflected changes in greater societal attitudes, while the conservatives on this one are determined to impose their will on society to create a new reality.

[oasis]

37. Mixed? I'm talking expose-type documentary.He's done more harm

than good. He votes in lock step with Scalia which makes Scalia even more powerful and dangerous. Not only that, Thomas is married to a right wing whacko wife who is a big shot in the Heritage Foundation.

You say he's charming. So was the snake in the Garden of Eden.

[sadoldgirl]

17. Interesting, if nothing else.

So she thinks that all these excited millennials
attending Bernie's rallies and are volunteering
for him on the internet will get turned off by
the nastiness and become pragmatic?

Whose negativity? Whose nastiness?

Again: verry interesting!

[MisterP]

18. Lena Dunham? Lena DUNHAM?! LENA DUNHAM?!!

[Catherina]

20. Yep lol n/t

[MisterP]

24. next she'll be dancing on "Ellen" to make herself seem more telegenic!

[Catherina]

19. Lol! In other words, please don't get excited about politics

[Dawson Leery]

32. 2 More Sammy the Bull Alitos on the USSC should get any Democrat excited to vote

for the Democratic nominee.