Clinton aide (Huma Abedin) delayed financial data sought by State Dep't

[antigop]

http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-aide-abedin-delayed-reporting-assets-state-dept-200637400--politics.html

After Hillary Rodham Clinton designated long-time aide Huma Abedin for a job as a special adviser working for her at the State Department in 2012, Abedin delayed providing personal financial information repeatedly sought by the department's ethics officials to determine if she had any potential conflicts of interest, newly-released emails show.

[antigop]

1. "Abedin had still not provided the information about Weiner's finances even five days after her

hiring."

[HereSince1628]

2. On to making the collateral damage... sadly a regular part of the un-scandals.

How many millions will be wasted on probing Huma because she has a relative who works in Islamic studies?

[TwilightGardener]

3. So I'm curious, what did she do that was so damn "special" that she had to

have this new designation of "special government employee"? Why did this occur in the last year of Clinton's tenure--what did she use Mrs. Wiener for, that couldn't have been done when Mrs. Wiener was chief of staff?

[antigop]

4. was there something unusual about Weiner's finances? nt

[TwilightGardener]

5. Are you saying there might be something unsavory about Carlos Danger!?!?

[Electric Monk]

7. Did someone say Danger?

[antigop]

9. I'm just asking a question...was there something unusual about his finances? nt

[antigop]

10. How did she keep track of her hours for each job? I'd like to see her "timesheet". nt

[jeff47]

12. What made it "special" was allowing her to have multiple

non-government jobs at the same time.

[antigop]

13. at one point, Huma Abedin had four jobs...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=131664

State Department
Teneo
Clinton Foundation
worked in a "personal capacity" for HRC

[TwilightGardener]

18. I'm guessing that that's a big chunk of it.

Hillary's IT guy (Take The Fifth) also double-dipped, job-wise, from both the State Dept. and the Clintons personally. It's just so fucking ethical.

[cherokeeprogressive]

31. And that's what makes post #2 so special. n/t

[thesquanderer]

47. Only an issue if two entities were being billed for the same hours.

There's nothing wrong with someone having two jobs. Many people have a full-time job and an additional part-time job.

[TwilightGardener]

53. Except that when you work for the government in that sort of position, you have to let them know

what you're doing on your "outside" job so there's no conflict of interest (Bryan Pagliano, Fifth Amendment IT Boy, did not do this). And I'm not sure how common it was for Huma Wiener to do what she did, having several Clinton-related satellite gigs that appear to have been piggybacked onto her State job. How do you avoid a conflict of interest, when it appears your main skill set is having a great deal of access to the Sec. of State?

[antigop]

25. Weiner: "The person at the side of the principal is usually the bad guy.”

Yep, Weiner said that about his wife. Rather strange.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/magazine/anthony-weiner-and-huma-abedins-post-scandal-playbook.html

As Weiner himself puts it: “She is the most competent, graceful person I’ve met in all my years in politics. . . . And she’s the hatchet woman! The person at the side of the principal is usually the bad guy.”

[TwilightGardener]

26. That is kinda weird.

[thesquanderer]

46. as in playing the "bad cop" so the principal can play the "good cop" (n/t)

[artislife]

6. Drip drip drip

[AngryAmish]

8. .

[oasis]

17. He's drippin' and you're trippin'

[artislife]

27. I have no opinion on the this except

that it is a drip, drip, drip action that seems to be highlighting the chance of impropriety on behalf of Clinton.

Is it true? I don't know. It is just like the email thing to me...an erosive force. I think the email thing is dumb on behalf of Clinton, I don't believe in the Benghazi bs and this....who cares-----except that it has the potential to drip drip drip onto people's psyches that she just seems to obsfucate when she can just be direct. It is as if following the rules to a tee without amending them in some way is just too much to ask for.


It is her fatal flaw in her Shakespearean drama.

[oasis]

28. Whether you view her as Richard III or Macbeth

at least you recognize her as a person of destiny. She's not about to fold up her tent in the face of adversity.

[artislife]

29. No she won't fold up her tent

I remember 2008.

Yes, she is a person of destiny. What destiny, is still onfolding.

I respect that you support her.

[oasis]

34. Bernie's an exceptional individual. It's not a surprise

to me he has such a strong, committed following.

[mak3cats]

55. Thank you for this...

...I wish all of us had your attitude.

[oasis]

56. There's plenty for Democrats to come together on. <nt>

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. "a person of destiny." OMFG

[artislife]

37. I thought on that phrase, too...but she is.

Just like Bernie, just like FDR, just like Reagan.

The term is neutral to feelings about what that means, it just states the importance of the person. And H is important. She has been a figure in the psyche of this nation since 1992. The views about her are vast and varied.

[cherokeeprogressive]

41. My belief is that the poster was implying Hillary is "destined" to be President.

As if it's pre-ordained and resistance is futile.

[artislife]

57. Perhaps.

But the phrase wasn't that she was destined to be just that she was a person of destiny and decided to read it as it was written. I have had pleasant exchanges with Oasis, so I decide to "listen" to what she writes and not read something into it.

I can't say I do that with every H supporter, but I do try to from time to time...heh.

But that is my take and you are certainly free to have your own!

[oasis]

38. Keep rolling, but "beware the ides of March".

In your case, March 1st which is even sooner.

[cherokeeprogressive]

39. Mmmmmkay.

[oasis]

14. dream, dream, dream

and it might come true.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. It seems like the high tech lynching of a prominent woman with an Arabic surname.

I thought this was the behavior we progressives reflexively eschew.

[yeoman6987]

33. Not if there is illegalities going on

Are you saying nobody else could do the job? Was it announced on USAJOBS.com? We're others interviewed for the job and she was most qualified even with working on the Clinton global initiative?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. I said no such thing. If you think you can put words in my mouth you best move along.

Go find somebody else to bully, preferably in real life.

[yeoman6987]

36. You said it was a lynching.

So yes I am calling you out on that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. Maybe you call people out in the rarefied milieu you inhabit

So yes I am calling you out on that.

Maybe you call people out in the rarefied milieu you inhabit but I assure you that you have never called out anybody like me.

This is what you said to inaugurate our poisonous tete a tete:

Are you saying nobody else could do the job? Was it announced on USAJOBS.com? We're others interviewed for the job and she was most qualified even with working on the Clinton global initiative?

I said no such thing.

P.S. Re: the high tech lynching:

In a letter dated June 13, 2012, to the State Department Inspector General, five Republican members of Congress claimed that Abedin "has three family members–her late father, her mother and her brother – connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations."[18][19] (Those signing the letter were: Michele Bachmann (R-Minn), Trent Franks (R-Ariz), Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), Thomas J. Rooney (R-Florida), and Lynn Westmoreland (R-Georgia).)[20] The claims in the letter were widely rejected and condemned by a variety of sources, and were generally labelled as a conspiracy theory.[20][21][22][23] The Washington Post called the allegations "paranoid," a "baseless attack" and a "smear."[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huma_Abedin

[Recursion]

71. Appointed positions do not go through the normal hiring process

I mean, Obama also didn't post "Secretary of State" on USAJobs either. Though I'd kind of love to see the responses if he had.

[yeoman6987]

72. I guess you have a good point.

[Vinca]

19. Does anyone really care about this?

Why would anyone care about this?

[KoKo]

21. Because Hillary is running for "Commander-in-Chief" as US President....

It is important to many of us who she associates with and how she ran the US State Department.

As a Democrat I care about this. Shouldn't You?

[Vinca]

62. It's silly. Hillary isn't Huma.

And, keep in mind, I dread voting for the woman if she's the candidate in the general. In addition, think of Huma. She's got a whole lot on her plate and if she's a few days late with the financials I don't think it deserves a tar and feathering.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I read the article twice...

I learned there was a delay in getting in all her paperwork nearly four years ago but she eventually got it all in... i also learned that the investigation emanated from a complaint from Judicial watch (C) and Senator Charles Grassley (R).

[zeemike]

54. Perhaps because it is your money they are spending?

And perhaps because it could be corruption in high places?...and because it is about electing the most powerful person in the world?

I would think we should care a lot.

[Vinca]

63. It could also be about a busy woman who is not only Hillary's aide but a wife and mother.

This is a nothing burger. You guys are just begging the Hillary people to drag out some of the people Bernie has been associated with in the past. None of us are angels.

[zeemike]

64. Well that steady drip drip of scandal will turn into a flood

Once she is the nominee.
And you can dismiss it all if you want, but to the average voter it will have an impact. And they will react predictably by voting against her or staying home.
Not so with the GOP...they will line up to vote against her.

But by all means, if you have any ammo against Sanders bring it out...we should not fear the light of day...and I don't.

[Vinca]

67. Bernie is my candidate so of course I wouldn't "bring out any ammo."

Besides, things that could be used against him have already been written - by him - in his books. My point is every election season we become mired in mindless BS and the important issues are brushed to the side. I'm more interested in Hillary's record on trade, Keystone, Wall Street reform, etc. than I am the finances of Mr. and Mrs. Anthony Wiener.

[zeemike]

68. Well we are both interested in that.

But then we are on a political board talking politics.
But the general public is not doing that and they know only what they hear on the TV...it is a sad fact that they don't pay more attention to it but it is understandable given the negative nature of it.

And the media does not care much about the issues, only the salacious scandals, and so that is what most people will see.

[Vinca]

69. I'm not too terribly worried about any Bernie scandals.

Hillary's email mess seems to drag on and on and on and every so often another tidbit comes out to keep it alive. My biggest concern is that she'll be the nominee and then an indictment will come down. What then?

[zeemike]

70. Even without an indictment it could prove fatal.

The public could become so weary of it they stay home or vote against her.
It is more in the hands of the media than anything. And the political wonks have less to do with it than them.

[antigop]

20. OK, something isn't adding up here...

From the article in the OP:

"Anthony filed his separate disclosure last June. Nothing has changed. I don't need to include his stuff on mine right?" Abedin emailed an ethics official in April 2012. The official replied: "I have confirmed with the Legal Office that his assets are imputed to you so his assets are reportable.

If Weiner "filed his separate disclosure last June", that would have been June, 2011.

He resigned from Congress in June, 2011.

How can she make the claim that "Nothing has changed" from June, 2011 to April, 2012?

Here is what he did after he left Congress:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/30/nyregion/jobless-after-scandal-weiner-triumphs-in-corporate-world.html

It did not take Mr. Weiner long to embark on a new career after he left Congress on June 16, 2011. On July 7, he quietly incorporated a new firm, Woolf Weiner Associates, named for his great-grandfather, an Austrian immigrant to the Lower East Side.

Since then, Mr. Weiner said, he has advised more than a dozen companies. He disclosed the names of a few of them after they agreed to waive confidentiality agreements.

He signed up a New York firm called CureMD, an electronic medical records provider. And he became a consultant to Covington & Burling, an international law firm.

eta: Looks like a LOT changed from June, 2011 to April, 2012.

[antigop]

22. why would Weiner have filed a disclosure in June, 2011, the month he resigned? nt

[karynnj]

73. My guess was the timing was coinidental

I would guess that he filed his disclosure consistent with being a Congressman, not knowing that he would resign in disgrace at the end of the month. ( There was a May 15th deadline, but some received extensions - so this is not an unreasonable assumption.) He resigned on June 16, 2011.

As someone noted, Huma's assertion makes no sense. The disclosure from June 2011 would reflect him working as a Congressman. By April 2012, he had a new job.

[antigop]

24. "The emails do not show whether Abedin provided all the records sought by the department"

So did she turn them in or not?

[magical thyme]

30. yes, but after the fact.

Hillary hired her before her disclosures were complete.

[antigop]

43. But after the fact, what? Do we know if she ever provided the disclosures? nt

[magical thyme]

44. yes. she provided the disclosures 5 days after she was hired.

"after the fact" of her being hired with incomplete disclosures.

The last email says that yes, she has to file Wiener's finances too. THere weren't any subsequent emails, but she eventually did submit the disclosures.

[antigop]

49. that's not what the article said

Abedin had still not provided the information about Weiner's finances even five days after her hiring, according to the emails

.

[magical thyme]

50. oops. you're right. it never confirms it....

that's what I get for trusting my memory...

[SoapBox]

42. It's always something with HRC...

Over it.

[elehhhhna]

45. The somethings are either money or secrets.

[antigop]

48. the article in the OP never says she provided the disclosures

Abedin had still not provided the information about Weiner's finances even five days after her hiring, according to the emails.

[Onlooker]

51. Not only that, Hillary had a lesbian affair with Huma Abedin

As long as we're doing the right's bidding by bashing Hillary anyway we can, might as well post this rumor. It's great to see how well the left and right are getting along in their Hillary bashing.

http://www.coachisright.com/if-hillary-clinton-had-a-lesbian-affair-with-huma-abedin-than-everything-in-weinergate-fits/

[cherokeeprogressive]

66. Well by gosh an by golly, thanks for putting it out there then!

I've never heard that before this moment. But, now I have! Can't thank you enough for being the only person in this thread to make the claim.

Bold, bold I say.

[antigop]

52. I'll ask again: Did she EVER provide the financial disclosures? nt

[99Forever]

58. Yet another sleazy, unforced error, tied directly to Hillary.

Beyond tone deaf. Not fit for public office, least of all the Presidency.

[restorefreedom]

59. how can someone work 4 jobs

and have the hours to provide for each without double dipping?

i doubt these were all 10 or 15 hour positions

[antigop]

60. exactly. nt

[antigop]

61. Weiner’s Wife Didn’t Disclose Consulting Work She Did While Serving in State Dept.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/nyregion/weiners-wife-huma-abedin-failed-to-disclose-consulting-work-done-while-a-state-dept-aide.html

The State Department, under Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton, created an arrangement for her longtime aide and confidante Huma Abedin to work for private clients as a consultant while serving as a top adviser in the department.

Ms. Abedin did not disclose the arrangement — or how much income she earned — on her financial report. It requires officials to make public any significant sources of income.

[antigop]

65. So did she ever submit the financial info "repeatedly sought" by the ethics officials?

Did she ever provide the info on Weiner's finances?