After the primary, how many of Hillary's foot soldiers will care that "black lives matter"?

[brentspeak]

Last edited Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Come to think of it, I don't remember too many of them before the primary emotionally invested in the idea that "black lives matter" -- or having too much of a concern about any African American issue of any kind, for that matter.

?????

(Needless to say, this OP refers not to Joe and Jane supporters of Hillary Clinton, but, rather, only to the ethically depraved paid and unpaid Hillary flunkies who've polluted this board and the rest of the Web with insinuations that Bernie and his supporters are racist.)

[jfern]

1. I have already seen some Hillary supporters switch to the new attack

That Sanders is weak in not standing up to BLM. This of course happened after Hillary told BLM to shut up.

[leftofcool]

2. Excuse me? I have a Black grand daughter so you are god damn right I am invested!

If I were you, I would delete this pathetic and racist post!

[brentspeak]

4. In what way is my post "racist"?

There should be an IQ test to be allowed to post on these boards.

[leftofcool]

5. Why don't you post this filth in the AA forum? Go ahead, see what happens

[leftofcool]

9. That's what I thought.

[merrily]

58. You may have misinterpreted Reply 8.

[dsc]

52. yeah just like southerners wanted literacy tests to vote

pretty clear what you are up to.

[merrily]

59. Wasn't brentspeak suggesting a specific poster should have to pass an IQ test before posting?

That's how I interpreted Reply 8.

[dsc]

75. and that is pretty much how the southerners used them

to keep the riff raff from voting. Just was an accident it was all black.

[merrily]

77. Either you did not read my post or you misunderstood it.

I interpreted brentspeak's post to leftofcool as meaning leftofcool's reply had proven brentspeak's point about how people should have to pass an IQ tet before posting. Leftofcool, not everyone in the African American forum.

I am not saying I agree with any interpretation of brentspeak's post. I am just saying I read it very differently than you and leftofcool did. I saw it as an insult to one poster, not to any group of posters.

[NCTraveler]

10. This is what happens in an echo chamber.

They are pushing each other so far with all of the pats on the back that we end up with things like this. The op has zero clue how offensive this is because they have been emboldened with limited challenge.

[cheapdate]

33. Word. It's just this free-form style of attack that's limited only by one's imagination.

Glenn Beck was good at it. Trump is good at it. And now we're good at it, too.

[betsuni]

39. +1

[uponit7771]

56. +1

[BlueWaveDem]

64. Meanwhile, Hillary's biggest base are Af-Americans.

What a ridiculous op.

[Number23]

79. Nailed it.

[Thinkingabout]

3. I do not have a problem embracing BLM or African Americans or latinos or Asians or

Middle Easters, I hope this answers your question.

[BlueWaveDem]

6. "Taze her!". Something I haven't heard yelled at a Hillary rally.

I can snark as well.

[AtomicKitten]

21. You didn't hear that at a Bernie Sanders rally either.

You heard it in Seattle at a Medicare and Social Security rally at which Bernie was invited to speak along with other speakers.

You thus have NO PROOF that came from a Sanders supporter. That kind of language has NEVER been used at a Sanders' rally; these rallies are available on YOUTUBE.

If you have any integrity, you will stop promoting that falsehood.

[SwampG8r]

85. You lost them at integrity

[redstateblues]

7. Probably more than Bernie's

[Metric System]

11. Delete this.

[Starry Messenger]

12. Hmmm.

You mean caring like this? http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251509247

brentspeak (17,691 posts)

By their own admission, the BLM disruptors aren't even Democrats

In fact, they've pretty much said that they are opposed to the Democratic party.

Therefore, any talk on these forums which actually supports the BLM disruptors should be considered off-limits -- and removed from the site in the usual manner.

You either support the Democratic party (or, at least, not oppose it) and respect its party primaries or you should be drop-kicked from this (Democratic) site.

(And ftr, not that it matters, anyone can search my posts about Trayvon, and other police killings of African Americans going back several years.)

[brentspeak]

23. Uh, yeah?

Besides the fact that the post of mine you linked to was not inaccurate (the BLM disruptors officially said that they are not Democrats; one of its leaders even admitted she is a Sarah Palin supporter), is there some sort of connection between the content of that particular post and the content of my OP here?

[Starry Messenger]

26. Just pointing out that is your most passionate post on this subject to date.

Edit: Sorry, I was mistaken. I missed the earlier one where you called the founder of Black Lives Matter an "a$$head."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=463848

brentspeak (17,695 posts)

Heckler/disruptor Patrisse Cullors appoints herself the spokesperson of black people [View all]

Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)

What an a$$head.

Black people are, like all people, extremely diverse. Then along comes Patrisse Cullors who acts like she is an entire race's spokesperson on who an entire diverse group will vote for. Then, to boot, she vows to shut down the democratic process every chance she gets.

[brentspeak]

31. Was that an incorrect assessment? n/t

[Starry Messenger]

34. Just pointing out how much you seem to "care" about "black lives matter." nt.

[brentspeak]

37. Some of the BLM leaders are self-aggrandizing a$$hats

While it may be incomprehensible to you, one can be annoyed at the pointless antics of Sarah Palin-supporting leaders of the movement but still give a damn about the real topic of black people being victims of police brutality at the same time.

[Starry Messenger]

38. Nothing you have posted is incomprehensible to me.

Anyone can search your posts on the topic.

[pecwae]

51. Jury Results

On Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:32 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Some of the BLM leaders are self-aggrandizing a$$hats
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=634214

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Racist dude has dropped all pretenses tonight.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Sep 30, 2015, 06:37 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: alerter may not agree with the post but pulling the race card is a little over the top from what I can see. Maybe I am missing some context?
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: may be non-pc but not a violation of TOS
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sounds like imaginary racism
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see why this is racist. Although brentspeak could perhaps be a bit more sensitive.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing racist about this post
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter fails to prove racism - as usual.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. If I were you I would delete this thread.

eom

[BlueWaveDem]

65. Wow. Well we know who won't care about BLM after Bernie loses.

[Starry Messenger]

73. +1

[cyberswede]

13. I'm a Sanders supporter, but I think this post is awful.

I think most DUers support POC, regardless of who they'd like to see win the primary.

You should edit or delete this, imo.

[brentspeak]

19. It's "awful" to point out

that many of the same anonymous nobodies who've been polluting these forums by insinuating that Bernie Sanders is a racist are the same anonymous nobodies who, prior to the primary, never really spent too much time on these forums very concerned about AA issues?

That's awful? Holy cow.

[cyberswede]

22. It's awful to accuse fellow DUers of not caring about POC.

I also think it's awful to accuse Sanders of the same thing.

What are you hoping to accomplish?

[brentspeak]

24. The anonymous people here polluting the boards insinuating that Bernie is a racist

or otherwise obscenely misusing African American issues in order to impugn Bernie and thus harm his campaign are, to you, people who actually "care about POC"???

Ok, gotcha.

[cyberswede]

27. Some might say that your OP misuses AA issues to impugn other people, as well.

Have a nice night.

[Bluenorthwest]

84. I'm a Sanders supporter who agrees with every word you wrote.

No need to add any more. Well said.

[Number23]

80. You are no better than the people you are burning calories trying to slime

And the idea that you care so much about AA issues now -- as if no one could see your previous posts -- that you are trying to use it as a bludgeon on a particular candidate is particularly hilarious.

[cheapdate]

35. What's "awful" is you're doing the exact thing you say you despise in others.

That is, just floating a nebulous, free-form allegation of perfidy and dishonesty against an amorphous, generalized group of people.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. I hafta agree even though I too support Bernie.

[Cali_Democrat]

14. LOL...and Bernie supporters wonder why Hillary supporters are posting on another site.

Can it be any more clear?

If someone else created this exact same OP, but replaced "Hillary" with "Bernie", I bet it would be hidden.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. It's not right when any support group does this.

[Major Nikon]

15. Results...

On Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:27 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

After the primary, how many of Hillary's foot soldiers will care that "black lives matter"?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251634015

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is insulting to Hillary supporters. Let's keep DU civil.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:46 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Broadbrush attack on DUers. There have been many posts by members of the BOG and HRC groups in AA over the years, not just the election. Vote to hide because it is not true and adds nothing to DU.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Should be an SOP alert for disruptive Meta.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disruptive, divisive, and doesn't belong on DU.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: 0-7? Nah, there's got to be at least one more out there. The sheer volume of those who are perpetually offended by the most negligible of Hilary slights demands it. My money is on 1-6.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[Metric System]

17. I didn't alert but it's obvious there's no sense in doing so anymore anyway.

[one_voice]

16. I'm undecided on who I support...

and I find this OP disgusting and vile.

search my posts, you'll find I've favored O'Malley.

I'm so sad to see what DU has turned into.

[leftofcool]

36. I am glad the vote was to leave it. I want it rec'd and on the front page.

Then I am going to direct BLM right here to see it.

[MADem]

18. I expect those issues to be a cornerstone of her general election campaign.

I guess you haven't been paying much attention to the BLM movement.

[msongs]

20. probably about the same % as Bernie's foot soldiers nt

[Bobbie Jo]

25. Another one for the books

Just when you think it can't get any worse.

[WMDemocract]

28. Of course they matter

That black lives matter is axiomatic. It's like asking someone to emotionally invested in the idea that oxygen exists.

[yurbud]

29. it depends on what they will be trying to sell

[quickesst]

30. I really don't know...

....what is worse. Someone who would write something like this, or someone who would defend it. Classless.

[napi21]

32. Can't speak or anyone but myself, but way before there was a

"black lives matter" movement, my husband & I were slamming the cops all across the country for deliberately picking blacks to stop, arrest, and kill. That is not going to go away from our opinions just because there was an election.

I tell everyone I talk to how wrong that behavior is and I'm hoping there are lots of others like us doing the same.

[gwheezie]

40. Well bless your heart

You seem kinda angry at black lives matter activists and people who don't support Bernie.

[Number23]

81. He is in very numerous company here in that regard.

[ornotna]

41. This really isn't helpful at all

Remember: DU is supposed to be fun — don't make it suck.

[SunSeeker]

42. +1

[aquart]

45. What an insulting little screed.

So Hillary supporters are all closet bigots? And, let me guess, Bernie's sweet-smelling handmaidens aren't? Because they are all that is good and pure of heart while Hillary's people are lying, deceptive opportunists?

Sure, kid.

[NCTraveler]

46. See post 12.

very eye opening and directly related to the op. Really says a lot.

[demmiblue]

47. Unrec.

[stonecutter357]

48. So you are stalking the African American group?

Are you the one alert stalking ?

[JTFrog]

49. +1 n/t

[stonecutter357]

50. Black Lives Matter.

[ibegurpard]

53. period

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. This is a very sad thread. It is quite possibly the saddest thread in the history of the internet.

eom

[randome]

57. Even Pikachu is sad.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[quickesst]

61. It is also....

...for me anyway, the death knell of any credibility bernie's supporters may have had on the issue. The inmates have taken over the asylum.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

63. My only emotion is sadness.

eom

[merrily]

67. And your post is different from the OP only in that the OP did not apply his words to all

of Hillary's supporters, not even all of them on DU, but you applied your words to smear all of Bernie's supporters, with no qualifying words whatever.

Kudos.

[quickesst]

69. Got me there.

The one time in my limited posting history that I did not include the "not all", or "some", or even "many" in my statement. Kudos to you as well on your astute observation.

[Metric System]

60. The fact that this thread still stands is further proof the jury system is hopelessly compromised.

[Marrah_G]

62. What nasty post- you should delete this

Shame on you

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. If there is evil in the world isn't it logical to assume there is evil everywhere?

If there is evil in the world isn't it logical to assume there is evil everywhere?

[MineralMan]

68. Your premise is faulty. You're wrong.

If you believe that insulting Hillary Clinton supporters is a good way to convince them of something, you are in error.

Demonizing supporters of a Democratic candidate will not help your favored candidate at all.

You might want to consider self-deleting this poorly conceived post. Really.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. You are the conscience of Democratic Underground.

You remind some of us that we have a shared humanity.

[Zorra]

70. DU search is your friend. You may not be able to see the future by

using it, but you can get a fairly accurate determination of facts from the past.

Simply key into the DU search box a poster's screen name whose posting past you are curious about, and then add keywords like minorities, African Americans, Martin Luther King, Trayvon, and/or other relative keywords. I'm sure you know the drill.

You'll find answers to a poster's DU political past there, and this may help you determine if your memory is accurate or not.

[leftofcool]

71. You really think DU has the only AA forum on the internet?

Oh well, of course you do. Your post in the funniest things I have seen on DU on ages.

[WI_DEM]

74. This is silly.

[ismnotwasm]

78. I cared before

I care during this campaign and I will care after.

[sheshe2]

87. I am with you, ism. nt

[Fearless]

82. Well they didn't matter much to the end of her last campaign... soooo... yeah.

[jfern]

83. If they really cared, they wouldn't support a death penalty supporter

Since 42% of death row inmates are black, which is higher than the 30% of those killed by the police who are black.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/21/police-kill-more-whites-than-blacks-but-minority-d/?page=all

[m-lekktor]

86. Several of us having been talking about this for awhile.

it's so fucking obvious!