Bernie Sanders could run a very serious and competitive third party candidacy

[Bread and Circus]

I know he won't and he shouldn't but I truly think it would be a competitive 3 way race. A lot of people are really fed up with the Decomcratic and Republican party. I imagine the Hillary camp is sincerely grateful, and they should be, that he has pledged not to mount a third party campaign which would be devastating for her and the Democrats.

The disrepect heaped upon Sanders by the Clinton surrogates and some of her supporters is apalling. The scorn and dismissiveness cast upon us true progressives and liberals is insufferable. Getting the shitty end of the Democratic Third Way stick for decades is a slap in the face a lot of the times.

How many times do we have to be right and how many times do the New Democrats have to be wrong before some sanity is returned to our Party?

Many of us are angry about it.... rightfully so.

But it's a damn good thing Bernie is as earnest and well meaning as he is and not go off to pull a Nader. Be thankful HRC folks.

[liberal N proud]

1. If a 3rd part candidate from the left runs, it will most assuredly give the republicans a win

You will not see that candidate pulling voters from the right but only from the left splitting the left into.

Just a reality in the two party system that has been established and maintained.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

8. The left is already divided and if Bernie does not win the nomination the 1% and Wall Street wins

And they, the 1% and Wall Street, could careless if it is a D or R that is the winner because they own all the candidates but 1 already

[liberal N proud]

15. Are you saying that a certain percent of the Democrats will not vote unless they get their way?

Might I give you some of my daughters wisdom then?



It was directed at her friends who did not vote in the last election and we know what happened with that.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

21. I can't speak for others but for myself and others who have told me the same thing....

I will vote but not for a corporate candidate and that includes HRC

HRC and her minions should not assume she has all the dem votes if she is the nominee

[liberal N proud]

30. You would rather see President Trump?

Or another bu$h

Along with the wars they will bring?

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

31. I no longer give a crap I will not compromise my values. At least Pres Trump will be good for laughs

Or a Pres Cruz

It really will not matter if it is Clinton trump or Cruz the end result will be the same

[liberal N proud]

32. If one does not care, why do they spend time on a political discussion site?

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

37. Cuz I feel like it

[RBInMaine]

52. Hillary is NOT a Republican. ENOUGH of this purist nonsense.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

56. Never said she was, she is beholden to the 1%, Wall Street and corporations tho

Follow the money

[BlueWaveDem]

2. Bernie is the one who should be thankful.

[kenfrequed]

12. Thankful for what?

My gods, are you just here to make sure that Bernie supporters here never support Hillary if she happens to win the primary?

Seriously, a post that lauds on Bernie Sanders Refusal to run as a third party candidate and the fact that he promises to support whoever wins the primary, and you decide to take a big old steaming crap on the thread, Bernie Sanders, and his supporters here.


I mean, the only thing I can think of is that you are here to anger Sanders supporters into hating your candidate more.

If you are a Hillary supporter, and I am really starting to doubt it, start showing some goddamned sense and realize that Sanders voters tend to vote democrat too and if Hillary wins she will need a few of us to actually show up!

[BlueWaveDem]

14. Splitting the vote would be his legacy.

And every President Trump fuck up would be met with a "Thanks Bernie" meme. No need for you to get mad, Bernie wouldn't run 3rd party.

[kenfrequed]

17. So... you aren't going to respond to the question.

You originally responded with something to the effect of "He should be grateful."


I will restate that I think you are just here to rile up Sanders supporters to make them less likely to show up on election day. You are doing the GOP's job for them and you are doing it very well.

Please stop now.

[BlueWaveDem]

23. Bizarre statement.

My comments here gave zero effect on people voting and I would vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. No need for conspiracy theories.

[kenfrequed]

25. Nice dismissal

But I have seen a lot of people pretending to be Hillary supporters on here that seem to be doing nothing positive and only seem to want to enrage the left wing.

Your initial statement stands for itself in all it's scatalogical glory.

[Maedhros]

27. kenfrequed - I suggest you just put BlueWaveDem on Ignore like I am doing.

He's clearly just here to sow discord. His posts lack any kind of substance or analysis, so why waste time and energy?

[stillwaiting]

35. Excellent decision. I'm in. nt

[BlueWaveDem]

39. I'm not a he, and feel free to ignore me.

I could care less.

[kenfrequed]

50. Done and done

I still think he isn't really a Hillary supporter at all. I think he is here just to try to stir shit up.

[artislife]

51. S/he is new? Seems pretty seasoned at this. nt

[Puglover]

57. 227 posts in 7 days.

Wow! Ambitious!

[BlueWaveDem]

38. Continue to believe your bizarre conspiracy theories.

I really don't give a shit.

[Metric System]

3. Blah, blah, blah.

[LondonReign2]

42. Your posts are always so insightful

Thank you so much for your contributions

[Metric System]

44. Blah, blah, blah pretty much covers it. Not my most well-reasoned or argued posts, I admit.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. Bernie should be thankful the DNC is even allowing him in the debates....

considering the fact he's not even a member of the Democratic party.

Be thankful Bernie folks.

[HooptieWagon]

5. DNC is thankful Bernie isn't running third party,...

Which is why they let him run as a Democrat. If Bernie ran as a third party candidate and pulled in as little as 3% of the vote, Hillary would lose.

[Comrade Grumpy]

6. DNC should be thankful Sanders has committed to not run a third party campaign.

I guess you would freeze him out, maybe push him to run as an independent?

[Capt. Obvious]

10. Stop stalking the OP

[Warren Stupidity]

47. !

[workinclasszero]

26. No doubt /nt

[virtualobserver]

28. you have it backwards, the DNC should be grateful that we still vote for their candidates

considering that they primarily serve their Corporate pals, occasionally with a liberal flair.

[hrmjustin]

33. Well said!

And I also take Sanders at his word he would never do such a thing.

[Warren Stupidity]

46. wow yeah lets just close the whole debate show

I mean seriously the selected candidate has nothing to gain from that nonsense and it would just confuse people about who they must vote for.

[DianeK]

49. they should be thanking him for running ..

on the democratic ticket..it would be fr worse for Hillary if he had chose to run third party

[restorefreedom]

7. bernie does not need to run as third party

because he will getting the dem nom and hopefully, helping to remake this corporate owned and withering excuse for a party

[brooklynite]

9. By competitive you mean...20%? 25%?

The Republican and Democratic nominees will have State Party infrastructure to help turn out votes. An Independent Sanders would not. Add to which, he would be barred from several State ballots because of sore loser laws.

[Left Ear]

16. So when the State Infrastructure pisses the voters off by telling them who to vote for

then more voters see Bernie, and think - "Why not?"

[brooklynite]

11. "The disrepect heaped upon Sanders by the Clinton surrogates and some of her supporters is apalling"

Whereas the criticisms of Clinton by the Sanders supporters have been thoughtful and considerate?

[mythology]

13. Go ask people in Maine how that works out.

There is not a viable third party option that doesn't work out poorly in our system.

[99Forever]

19. How about you ask me instead?

Well?

[moobu2]

18. Yeah it would work out really well for him

but we would end up with a Republican president.

[moobu2]

20. I think of it as Bernie Sanders

is running a 3rd party candidacy now he's just using the Democratic Party to give his candidacy legitimacy.

I never think of Bernie Sanders as a democrat though ever...well he's not.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

24. Many folks never did and still don't consider HRC anything more then a DINO

I know I feel that way.

[LondonReign2]

43. Was it is traditional Democratic policies that confused you?

If you are used to the pablum of the Third Way I could see how you'd be disoriented at seeing Democratic principles espoused.

[99th_Monkey]

22. BIG K&R - Yes, HRC supporters should be grateful, but unfortunately, few if any, actually are ..

check this nasty screed out. Geesh.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=638595

[Maedhros]

29. That poster is deeply ignorant of politics and history. [n/t]

[Zorra]

34. Bernie will win the nomination. It's more likely Hillary will run a third party

campaign. She never said that she wouldn't run as a third party candidate after she loses the nomination.

And she has massive support from many extremely wealthy donors.

[hrmjustin]

36. "Be thankful Hillary folks"

He would never win as a third party and he would elect a Republican by doing such a thing.

Be grateful Sanders supporters that Sanders is a man of his word and would never do such a thing.

All of us be grateful.

[LondonReign2]

45. I too take Sanders at his word

He is fully cognizant of what damage a 3rd party run would do.

[WI_DEM]

40. Luckily he isn't interested in electing a republican.

[John Poet]

41. WHEN is HILLARY going to promise not to run a third-party

campaign if she loses?

[ellisonz]

48. Forget 3rd parties, destroy the Republicans. n/t

[RBInMaine]

53. He has said he will support WHOMEVER the Dem nominee is. Enough of this NONSENSE.

[RBInMaine]

54. "New Democats" "Third Way" "DLC" bla bla bla bla bla....Does it EVER end?

[JackInGreen]

55. We should all be thankful

He's got more integrity than that.