2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Why the fuck not?
Sanders/Warren 2016 has such a lovely ring to it.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)I want two Bernie's.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)given the chance to alter history in your preferred direction, what would you do?
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)She likes it in the Senate.
reddread
(6,896 posts)you kid yourself
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)I am not privy to what Senator Warren is thinking.
And neither are you.
jkbRN
(850 posts)doesn't mean we can't have a discussion/open a dialogue about it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 3, 2015, 11:22 PM - Edit history (1)
mythology
(9,527 posts)as weak. How does Warren do that for Sanders? They are very similar politically, both from the Northeast and both for lack of a better way to put it, older?
Look at Obama's selection of Biden. Obama is very measured in what he says, Biden says pretty much whatever is on his mind. Obama was new to the national stage, Biden has been around a long time. Obama is young, Biden older, minority as opposed to white guy.
Bush's selection of Cheney was also his opposite. Bush was (in the minds of many to my astonishment) folksy and "charming", Cheney not so much. Cheney was considered strong on defense/foreign policy, Bush couldn't spell foreign policy. Bush was somehow the outsider (although given his dad, I have no idea how that worked), whereas Cheney was a long term national figure.
I think if Sanders wins the nomination, he would go for somebody younger, probably a minority. Somebody like Corey Booker or one of the Castro brothers from Texas. Alternately he could opt for somebody like Kristen Gillibrand. Any of those would shore up areas where he is weaker currently such as minority voters or women voters, depending on where he winds up on those groups after the primary. He will have to win at least one of those in order to win the primary and could use help in the others to consolidate those voting blocs in the general.
Additionally each of those have deeper ties with the Democratic party than Sanders and whether it's liked or not, he would need some of that in order to win, and to have stronger relations once elected.
A longer shot could be Brian Schweitzer who has a similar anti-Wall Street tone as Sanders, but is also from a rural state and suffers from not having much of a national profile or shoring up a weakness for Sanders.
Of the other presidential primary candidates, O'Malley is the obvious most likely candidate as it wouldn't be Clinton or Webb and I can't see if being Chafee.
As much as I like Warren (and am perfectly happy to have her as one of my Senators), I don't see what she brings to the Sanders campaign that Sanders doesn't already have. You don't want a duplicate of the nominee.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Democrats can't afford to lose her in the Senate. Her states Governor is a Republican who would appoint a Republican. Furthermore at 66 years of age I doubt she would want to give up being an influential Senator to being Vice-President. She would accomplish more as a Senator than as Vice President.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Makes so much sense...NOT!
jkbRN
(850 posts)and running for President are COMPLETELY different.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)You can bookmark it.
jkbRN
(850 posts)Get a grip.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Doesn't take predicting the future, just common sense.
Oh, and back at you.
jkbRN
(850 posts)That is a prediction which is derived from your opinion. Don't put it forth as fact.
reddread
(6,896 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That's crazy talk lol
Plus Bernies not getting the democratic nomination anyway
reddread
(6,896 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I love good old Uncle Joe though
reddread
(6,896 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)and she is in her first term and is very influential. He was capping his career (maybe) by accepting the Vice Presidency after his presidential ambitions didn't pan out.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)one that has nearly given up hope for an honest assessment of our situation from a top tier candidate.
people across the board will give Sanders the time of day and fair shake he requires.
Hillary is nothing but a put off. for so many good reasons.
wrong horse.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)At all.
An accident would be waiting to happen.
He can NOT choose a centrist for VP.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)suit me just fine as VP, too.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)and we'd end up with whichever Republican nut-case they niminate
Autumn Colors
(2,379 posts)While I agree that Elizabeth Warren would be more effective in the Senate, there IS the idea that Bernie might be a bit "safer" from "accidents" with the idea of a "President Warren" looming in the background.
This also paves the way for her to run for Pres. in 2020.
Hmmmm ..... I do like this idea.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)She adds nothing that he already adds to the ticket. He will not pick somebody who is almost as old as he is and from a reliable Democratic New England state such as himself. If he gets the nomination he will no doubt select somebody who will actually help him win with groups that he may not be as strong with. I can see him selecting a younger Latino or African-American running mate. Besides, I think we would hate to lose her in the U.S. Senate. I believe that the GOP Governor would appoint a Republican to her place. We need as many Democratic Senators as possible.
dsc
(52,162 posts)she would have all the downside of running for President with none of the upside.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)I believe that Bernie would win the nom in a major landslide.