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DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:52 PM Oct 2015

I can't stand guns. I hate gun violence. I support Bernie Sanders.

I wish Sanders felt more like I did about guns, but you know what? The reason I like him and trust him is that I already know he isn't going to change his tune because people like me want him to. He's going to continue to tell me and anyone else who cares to listen why his positions are what they are, and he won't be trying to curry political favor by changing his mind in the middle of election season.

That said, Sanders' position on guns just isn't that bad, and certainly does not rise to the level being pushed by some very dishonest people, and everyone reading this already knows that, whether they'll admit it or not. Sanders isn't a gun nut, and those who are trying to push that know better.

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I can't stand guns. I hate gun violence. I support Bernie Sanders. (Original Post) DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 OP
I don't hate guns. I hate gun violence... one_voice Oct 2015 #1
O'Malley seems like an ok sort. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #2
I lost two friends to gun violence, and I support Bernie Sanders' approach above others. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #3
Thank you. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #4
I'm glad you're OK. I wish my friend had kept the first job where we met. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #5
If Bernie were to somehow successfully move those proposals forward LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #18
same here. but I don't think the avalanche of posts from the ihatebernie.com members is Doctor_J Oct 2015 #6
If he ain't a white supremacist, he's a gun and NRA lovin' ... delrem Oct 2015 #7
It really doesn't matter how you or he "feel about guns" pipoman Oct 2015 #8
I won't be shutting the fuck up, thanks, and I don't seek your approval. It's meaningless. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #9
It isn't about you pipoman Oct 2015 #10
If Bernie, who is fractionally to the right of Hillary on this issue, is talking about impossible LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #19
Not a single thing pipoman Oct 2015 #20
No candidate is perfect. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #11
Thanks for the welcome. You're about 46 years too late, but thank you. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #12
Either candidate should be fine for gun owners. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #13
I think the same way. Bernie's the best Candidate overall. appalachiablue Oct 2015 #14
I can't stand X. I hate the consequence of X. I support Y, who loves X. frizzled Oct 2015 #15
Now assign some weight to X, and you might be getting somewhere. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #16
Right there with you. 99Forever Oct 2015 #17

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
1. I don't hate guns. I hate gun violence...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:55 PM
Oct 2015

I saw my mom shot when I was little--domestic violence--and she's still alive. I know O'Malley isn't polling well right now, but that's who I like. I'm hoping he'll get a bump in the polls/more talk/name recognition after the debate.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
2. O'Malley seems like an ok sort.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:58 PM
Oct 2015

I definitely don't like what happened in Baltimore under his leadership, but he has some solid ideas.

We are both supporting underdogs. Good luck to us both.

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
3. I lost two friends to gun violence, and I support Bernie Sanders' approach above others.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:11 PM
Oct 2015

His past positions have been reasoned and he supports the three key feasible measures to reduce violence:

--Close the gun show loophole
--Instant and universal background checks
--Make straw purchases a federal crime
I am on the fence about assault weapons bans, unless he just means high capacity magazines, which makes sense.

Either way, he doesn't grandstand on it, he doesn't insist on his way no matter what; he knows that finding consensus is what will bring the most meaningful reform most quickly.

It's one of the many reasons I support his candidacy.

PS, one friend was shot during his graveyard shift at a convenience store.
The other friend ate his gun after coming back from Desert Storm and getting hooked on crank.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
4. Thank you.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:22 PM
Oct 2015

I am sorry to hear about your friends. I also shudder when I hear stories like your first story. In my younger years, I worked overnight at a convenience store. I was lucky. Thank you for the post.

 

MindfulOne

(227 posts)
5. I'm glad you're OK. I wish my friend had kept the first job where we met.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:32 PM
Oct 2015

It was a machine shop, I was the gopher and he ran a lathe but was bullied and walked out one day.

That sucks. I'm glad you made it though your job-- dangerous work in many cities.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
18. If Bernie were to somehow successfully move those proposals forward
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:08 PM
Oct 2015

they would represent enormous leaps forward in gun policy in the U.S. Unfortunately I don't think Bernie or anyone else can for the time being--not that we shouldn't try and continue to push, but right now the gun crazies have a tight grip on the upper hand. If Sandy Hook couldn't budge gun policy what will?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
6. same here. but I don't think the avalanche of posts from the ihatebernie.com members is
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:38 PM
Oct 2015

Going to sway any voters. Their candidate loses on every issue, so flinging poop is the only club in their bag

delrem

(9,688 posts)
7. If he ain't a white supremacist, he's a gun and NRA lovin' ...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:45 PM
Oct 2015

And did you hear the news just in on Joe Biden? y'know, the

scandalous ..., don'tcha think?
_______________

there's going to be so much money in politics in this season we're going to be astounded at the results, and we're already starting to see it.

It promises to be A GREAT GREAT SHOW!

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. It really doesn't matter how you or he "feel about guns"
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 01:59 AM
Oct 2015

What matters is what can be done...what is possible? Then stfu about anything that is impossible.....this would go a long way toward credibility and ability to keep promises

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
10. It isn't about you
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:19 AM
Oct 2015

It is about Bernie berning political capitol talking about impossible shit....you can talk about all the impossible fairy tales you wish and it affects nothing. ..

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
19. If Bernie, who is fractionally to the right of Hillary on this issue, is talking about impossible
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:11 PM
Oct 2015

shit and impossible fairy tales, what is Hillary going to accomplish that he won't?

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
15. I can't stand X. I hate the consequence of X. I support Y, who loves X.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:33 PM
Oct 2015

The rest of this post is left as an exercise.

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