2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Interrupted By Immigration Protester Over Private Prison Donations
Hillary Clinton was interrupted by an immigration protester while presenting an award to chef Jose Andres at the annual Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute gala in Washington, D.C. on Thursday.
Holding up a sign that read Hillary for immigrants in prisons, Juan Carlos Ramos of the advocacy organization United We Dream Action stood near the stage, yelling at Clinton as she spoke over him. Ramos was protesting Clinton accepting donations from corporations that run private prisons.
Ramos told BuzzFeed News he was chanting Hillary were watching. My deportation will be your funding.
Our message to Hillary Clinton is simple: Immigrant youth do not trust you, Ramos, who was swiftly removed from the event, said in an earlier statement. It is time to drop the prison money and stand with our community you cant have it both ways.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/hillary-clinton-interrupted-by-immigration-protester-over-pr#.rvK0g9j6z
jkbRN
(850 posts)Accepting money from the private prison industry is insanely unethical, especially when she is trying to portray herself as pro-immigration & racial justice.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Most recently she is against it. This is how she works. She thinks switching positions will give her a "high ground" when questioned. Some people here agree with her tactics.
She will fail the American people and their families. I have zero trust in her rhetoric. Actions speak louder than words. If she were a real candidate, and really believed in what she said she would not accept these donations and have them returned.
But yes, I totally agree with you, MANY people here fall for her MANY facades.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I know I've read right here in these pages that when a politician is interrupted on stage, the politician's job is to stop talking and listen to whatever the interrupter has to say. At the same time, I'm pretty sure we're not going to discover anything about Juan Carlos Ramos's dumbass Sarah Palin phase, since I'm pretty sure he never had one.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)I remember Obama making space for someone to say their peace, and responding as a human being would. I think it is the better road for one who wishes to lead to show deference to dissenting voices. Fault lines tend to form around that which is ignored and suppressed.
Uncle Joe
(58,426 posts)Thanks for the thread, azmom.
askew
(1,464 posts)She attacked Obama from the right on immigration in 2007-08. She made horrible comments about illegal immigrants in her Senate re-election. She wanted to send child refugees back to Latin America without due process in 2014 even the ones who were fleeing from the horrible Honduras government that she propped up as SoS. She gets money from private prisons. Her immigration plan is all just vague talking points. She doesn't address many of the real issues involved - Operation Streamline, for-profit prisons, etc.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Fairgo
(1,571 posts)I do maths.
senz
(11,945 posts)She should have had them take this rude fellow aside and tell him what's what.
Lotta nerve, complaining about "private prisons"!
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)oasis
(49,410 posts)recognition for his accomplishments. Hill was making a presentation, not giving a speech.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)They don't deserve a voice?
oasis
(49,410 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Awards ceremonies are hardly any more important than this
Overcrowded, unsanitary conditions seen at immigrant detention centers
In Arizona, most were corralled behind chain-link fences topped with razor wire, huddling for warmth on plastic mats under flimsy metallic Mylar blankets. A television was suspended from the ceiling. Banks of portable toilets served as sanitary facilities. Beside a recreation area, a camouflage tarp had been strung up to shield temporary showers.
In Brownsville, the group included young mothers, many of whom looked exhausted. Some of the children looked dazed or stared blankly from the cells, while others waved and smiled. Many slept.
oasis
(49,410 posts)Who were most likely in the audience, should not have to have his moment ruined because a disruptor choose to do this at this particular time.
The ills of society will plague humankind until the end of time.
The disruptive actions of the activist had far more an impact on the Andreas family than it did in furthering his cause.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Until the end of time? Your insensitivity is astonishing. I just don't know what to say to you.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)It's simple...
If that was your family, your relatives in those inhumane conditions, why the hell would you vote for a candidate who will help it continue?
Find out how long they have been waiting. Find out how they are waiting.
Too sad for tears.
You mean like at a Social Security event in, say, Seattle, where an honored Senator was to give one of many presentations on the topic at hand?
You mean it would be disrespectful to interrupt that for the purposes of valid activism?
oasis
(49,410 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)some people's hypocrisy.
oasis
(49,410 posts)you'll find I was highly critical of the actions of BLM at both Bernie events.
So you can point your finger of hypocrisy elsewhere.
frylock
(34,825 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)LettuceSea
(337 posts)oasis
(49,410 posts)here, that's for damn sure. She's got a ton of party endorsements to prove it. But you already know that.
oasis
(49,410 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)must hate immigrants. She talked over him? HOW RUDE!!!! How dare she not let him speak his mind!!!
LettuceSea
(337 posts)If an AA or Hispanic voter stays at home because of this, I honestly cannot blame them. P4P is modern day slavery.
HRC, and our party, really screwed up by letting this P4P cancer into the party. No one's fault but our own.
They better diffuse this NOW as opposed to later. Learn from the email mess, don't let this linger!
azmom
(5,208 posts)Bernie.
artislife
(9,497 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)I do however vote my conscience.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)My conscience may tell me to stay at home.
I'm not from the "everyone get in line and do what you're told" generation. That's for sheep.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)There are others. I chose one of them.
azmom
(5,208 posts)To cast a vote for Hillary. Working my ass off not to see her as our nominee.