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JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)And they're not even being nice, just finally being fair....for today at least.
They just don't want campaign finance reform, so they're pushing the status quo poster girl.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Scootaloo
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Robbins
(5,066 posts)Oh please.they ignore him and dismiss him at everyturn.their reaction didn't surprise me.doing all possable to dismiss bernie.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)
The only "love fest" the MSM has with Bernie is their love to try to push him aside as not wanting to help their oligopoly and all of the RICH 1%er media personalities that know he works more for the people than the rich that they ARE THEMSELVES and also represent!
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)JRLeft
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WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)on her looks, e-mails, Benghazi & a slew of other GOP talking points?
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... when they IGNORE that it was a judgement problem of her own to move that mail to her own private servers (a privatization move that usually characterizes REPUBLICAN moves to move away from government infrastructure everywhere). This is what opened her up to the Republican DISTRACTIONS of the Bengazi focus of her email problems, which thankfully both she and Bernie dismissed tonight.
If they really were to be more appropriate in their examination of the email issue, they'd question her judgement on WHY she moved her email to these servers. She may have some valid reasons for doing so (like Republican spies having access they shouldn't to this mail which they would abuse). If there were problems with our email infrastructure, a future LEADER, would SHOW LEADERSHIP SKILLS, and at that time say that she has to move her email to private servers because the current government infrastructure doesn't provide adequate security for her to do her job right and that once this has been fixed so that a government run and accountable infrastructure works properly, that she'd move her email back to them, then I think this strategy would have been looked at as a PLUS for her credentials to be president rather than the negative that it is for many of us (even though a different context than the worthless "Bengazigate" characterization of the email problem that the Republicans are engaged in).
The Bengazigate focus of Republicans almost works in Hillary's favor with the general public in obscuring the judgement problem.
Bernie was right in trying to defuse the Bengazigate elements of what is being talked about with emails now, and perhaps at a later time if that question comes again, he'd say that he would want to make sure that our government provides proper and adequate security to both allow politicians do their jobs without threats of compromise from outside entities, and also at the same time provide some degree of transparency in a secure fashion to ensure that business is done appropriately if anything is called in to question.
I think Bernie was right in not interjecting that last night, but if the topic comes up again, I'd like for him to assert how he would use judgement on how he would use email as head of state and how his cabinet would also use email if he were in charge, to clarify the differences on how she perhaps didn't use good judgement on how she chose to "privatize" her professional government email.
hrmjustin
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onecaliberal
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Nitram
(22,892 posts)I seem to see this a lot among Bernistas.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Nitram
(22,892 posts)...without criticizing Democrats who support Clinton. In case you were unaware, that is known as an ad hominem argument.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Nitram
(22,892 posts)...someday you figure out the difference between facts and your emotional response to different points of view.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)if he just happens to attract a large percentage of unpleasant people to his campaign.
The level of discourse you get from them is shockingly low. I've termed it Roto-Rooter discourse because it's sewer like and makes you feel like you need to call Roto-Rooter to fix it.
Nitram
(22,892 posts)And they also fail to realize that even if you love a particular candidate, it hurts our cause when we attack other candidates in the same party. Criticism is fine, but these personal attacks turn my stomach.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)that the first debate was going to destroy Clinton? This was supposed to kill her off,remember? You can't spend that much time crowing that Bernie is going to destroy Hillary and not expect some push back when that turns out to be spectacularly untrue.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)She didn't suck as bad as I expected
She hardly won, though. But she tried to tell wall street to cut it out lol..
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)yup.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Joey Joe Joe
(50 posts)They don't want Clinton. They want Bernie.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)at finding those polls and making sure everyone in the reddit votes.
Joey Joe Joe
(50 posts)Thank you for pointing that out to me.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)That everyone under 25 reads
Joey Joe Joe
(50 posts)I'm only in my early 40s
Metric System
(6,048 posts)
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Lol.