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RandySF

(59,437 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:00 AM Oct 2015

Krugman: On financial reform, Clinton has "the better case"

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders had an argument about financial regulation during Tuesday’s debate — but it wasn’t about whether to crack down on banks. Instead, it was about whose plan was tougher. The contrast with Republicans like Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, who have pledged to reverse even the moderate financial reforms enacted in 2010, couldn’t be stronger.

For what it’s worth, Mrs. Clinton had the better case. Mr. Sanders has been focused on restoring Glass-Steagall, the rule that separated deposit-taking banks from riskier wheeling and dealing. And repealing Glass-Steagall was indeed a mistake. But it’s not what caused the financial crisis, which arose instead from “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers, which don’t take deposits but can nonetheless wreak havoc when they fail. Mrs. Clinton has laid out a plan to rein in shadow banks; so far, Mr. Sanders hasn’t.

But is Mrs. Clinton’s promise to take a tough line on the financial industry credible? Or would she, once in the White House, return to the finance-friendly, deregulatory policies of the 1990s?

Well, if Wall Street’s attitude and its political giving are any indication, financiers themselves believe that any Democrat, Mrs. Clinton very much included, would be serious about policing their industry’s excesses. And that’s why they’re doing all they can to elect a Republican.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/democrats-republicans-and-wall-street-tycoons.html?_r=0

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Krugman: On financial reform, Clinton has "the better case" (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2015 OP
The crux of this article: djean111 Oct 2015 #1
^^THIS^^ Dawgs Oct 2015 #2
And the answer... DanTex Oct 2015 #5
I don't trust a word she says. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #6
Krugman's right. Especially considering... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #3
He has a plan. Reverse what Bill Clinton did. mhatrw Oct 2015 #9
Lose 25 Million jobs? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #10
What? Smaller businesses = more jobs mhatrw Oct 2015 #13
Repeating for emphasis... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #4
"But is Mrs. Clinton’s promise to take a tough line on the financial industry credible?" Matariki Oct 2015 #7
The article is missing any analysis about WHY Clinton's plan is better. mhatrw Oct 2015 #8
The notion that capitalism can be "reined in" is largely a fiction in any case markpkessinger Oct 2015 #11
Bernie wants to blunt the power both financially and politically Broward Oct 2015 #12
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. The crux of this article:
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:17 AM
Oct 2015
But is Mrs. Clinton’s promise to take a tough line on the financial industry credible? Or would she, once in the White House, return to the finance-friendly, deregulatory policies of the 1990s?


I do not believe any of Hillary's promises for one second. She would say anything in order to get elected, and then - Third Way. All the way.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
5. And the answer...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015
Well, if Wall Street’s attitude and its political giving are any indication, financiers themselves believe that any Democrat, Mrs. Clinton very much included, would be serious about policing their industry’s excesses. And that’s why they’re doing all they can to elect a Republican.

...

If a Democrat does win, does it matter much which one it is? Probably not. Any Democrat is likely to retain the financial reforms of 2010, and seek to stiffen them where possible. But major new reforms will be blocked until and unless Democrats regain control of both houses of Congress, which isn’t likely to happen for a long time.

In other words, while there are some differences in financial policy between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, as a practical matter they’re trivial compared with the yawning gulf with Republicans.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
13. What? Smaller businesses = more jobs
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:07 PM
Oct 2015

Merger mania is all about increasing "valuation" by reducing competition and employee "redundancies".

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. Repeating for emphasis...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:32 AM
Oct 2015
But it’s not what caused the financial crisis, which arose instead from “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers, which don’t take deposits but can nonetheless wreak havoc when they fail. Mrs. Clinton has laid out a plan to rein in shadow banks; so far, Mr. Sanders hasn’t.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
7. "But is Mrs. Clinton’s promise to take a tough line on the financial industry credible?"
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
Oct 2015

"Or would she, once in the White House, return to the finance-friendly, deregulatory policies of the 1990s? "

And that's the million dollar question as far as I'm concerned.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
8. The article is missing any analysis about WHY Clinton's plan is better.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015
For what it’s worth, Mrs. Clinton had the better case.

Why, Paul?

Mr. Sanders has been focused on restoring Glass-Steagall, the rule that separated deposit-taking banks from riskier wheeling and dealing. And repealing Glass-Steagall was indeed a mistake.

OK, so this makes Sanders' plan better by Krugman's own analysis because Clinton does not want to correct this mistake.

But it’s not what caused the financial crisis, which arose instead from “shadow banks” like Lehman Brothers, which don’t take deposits but can nonetheless wreak havoc when they fail. Mrs. Clinton has laid out a plan to rein in shadow banks; so far, Mr. Sanders hasn’t.

So why does a plan to rein in shadow banks beat a the plan to reinstate Glass-Steagall? And exactly what is the plan to rein in shadow banks? Is it a plan to break up Goldman Sachs or to make things harder for Goldman Sach's competitors? Krugman never tells why Clinton's plan is superior to reinstating Glass-Steagall and breaking up all too big to fail banks, just that it is.

The rest of the article just draws a contrast between Democrats and Republicans. Yes, Democrats are marginally better.

markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
11. The notion that capitalism can be "reined in" is largely a fiction in any case
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:01 PM
Oct 2015

As economist Richard Wolff has pointed out, so long as the current system of campaign financing remains in place, and so long as the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling stands, regulatory success in reining in the excesses of capitalism will be marginal and temporary, at best.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
12. Bernie wants to blunt the power both financially and politically
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:10 PM
Oct 2015

of the big banks. That alone gives Bernie the edge.

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