2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBill Clinton Speaks while Feel The Bern plane circles overhead.
I hope a portion of my donations to the Sanders campaign so far went for this.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)promote a Clinton rally? Seems wasteful.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)He wouldn't do that.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's the Iowa Democrats Jefferson-Jackson dinner...the Clinton's don't own it.
And that bit of Bernie promotion by someone is hilarious.
Especially in light of "Hillary Sharpening her Attacks Against Sanders"...or something like that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1241655
George II
(67,782 posts)...the hall, Sanders' was relegated to a location across the river from the hall.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Inspired
(3,957 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Good luck convincing THEM of that.
They think they own the party.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Here's the link if you care to watch...
Tune in, maybe there will be a dirigible emblazoned with "Hillary for Status Quo" flying overhead. You will never know if you don't watch!
George II
(67,782 posts)The dinner itself (not a "rally" starts at 8PM Central Time.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Thanks for the link.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Or someone with a private plane.
It would not have been Bernie's campaign. He probably wouldn't even approve.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)You know how it goes with mosquitos...they either bite you and get smacked or they just get smacked. Either way they have a short but annoying life span!
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)msrizzo
(796 posts)I'm sure that people's eyes were glued to that instead of Katy Perry.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)oh damn, I looked.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)That's what happened
ruffburr
(1,190 posts)A well meaning volunteer for Bernie,
BooScout
(10,406 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)but, but, but...politics is Rough.
1monster
(11,012 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)Scroll down the thread.
Btw, Hillary and her campaign really don't feel the need to crash Sanders events to get attention.
1monster
(11,012 posts)also a guest and had a rally in the same air space as Clinton's.
And as that has been stated, ad nauseam, on this thread, claiming ignorance is a tough sell.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Response to BooScout (Reply #7)
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sufrommich
(22,871 posts)It's freeperish bullshit.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)The media is in the pockets of the Corporate chosen candidates.
The people are up against an enormous, powerful, obscenely funded, secretly now thanks to Citizens United, media and political machine on all sides.
treestar
(82,383 posts)lol
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)died in an accident, someone who loved flying, a pilot who owned his own plane did a fly-over at his funeral. It cost our family nothing.
treestar
(82,383 posts)You'd be going on about Hillary's being a corporate stooge with lots of money from the banksters if she ever hired one.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Well we know how that one turned out . . .
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The wingnuts used to have aircraft do the same in 1998 only it read "Impeach Clinton".
Just lost any respect I had left for Sanders.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)You just cannot admit that you never had any.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Then I encountered his supporters.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)character. I certainly don't think Hillary would want to be judged by all of her supporters.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)There is one "Sanders' supporter" with many threads who I'm beginning to wonder might be a troll.
Not you, but someone whose threads are so objectionable, I can't help but wonder if he's playing from another camp.
I'm undecided, and none of this silly nonsense will help me decide.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It appears Bernie gets his talking points from his supporters! All of it is familiar:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/clinton-iowa-215133#ixzz3paZLuPFI
Autumn
(45,120 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)site?
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)I would not lean toward or against any candidate based on the attitudes of a handful of people online, nor would it affect my respect for the candidates themselves who have no control over them, and should be judged by their own positions, histories, etc. You're not voting for anyone's supporters. If Charles Manson endorsed HRC or BS, who cares?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Whether a person used to have respect for BS or not? It is a moral failing not to respect him?
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Remember! You're "fundamentally against" everything he stands for!
Your true character is showing here. Time to make a new username and start again. :/
murielm99
(30,761 posts)when I criticized Bernie.
I put them on ignore.
reddread
(6,896 posts)or something. Some posters set the standard for NOT LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Where I live, the Hillary supporters are knocking on doors. The Bernie supporters are carving Bernie's face on pumpkins.
Every Friday we prep for Saturday, and every Saturday we knock on hundreds of doors... And we always have enough volunteers to do the entire city.
Keeping busy.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)doors. We all do what we can.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)I'm amused.
Good looking' out though, thanks!
bvf
(6,604 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)I enjoyed this.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)I too hope part of my donation went to this.
mcar
(42,372 posts)switched their vote to Bernie as a result.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But hey if Bernie wants to spend what funds he has on stunts by all means proceed.
I'm sure the whole operation netted him zero votes.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)who has an airplane. And, if a plane towing a banner saying something like "HILLARY ROCKS!" was seen circling a Sanders event you'd all be raving about what a clever stunt it was.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Not the person I expect to lead the country.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)I thought Bernie was supposed to be all original and everything!
I'm shocked I say...just shocked!
juajen
(8,515 posts)Please stop sniping at each other. It is unseemly.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... that Ron Paul seems to have violated his conservative principles in doing here!
jalan48
(13,883 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)MelungeonWoman
(502 posts)The plane was controlled by several forces out of our control, the best they gave us was a window when the plane would fly over. I doubt they timed it precisely for Clinton's speech.
murielm99
(30,761 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)I'm reasonably sure that most Hillary supporters would have thought it was cool as hell.
murielm99
(30,761 posts)We are not that childish and classless.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)murielm99
(30,761 posts)I thought you were so proud that Bernie's campaign doesn't have money.
Maybe you should find out who paid for Katy Perry instead of asking me. Maybe Katy donated her time, or paid for it herself. I don't know. Go do your own homework.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Hillary and her campaign would repudiate this and 99% of Hillary's supporters would reject it as crass, classless and unbecoming of efforts to elect a future President.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)There may still be some unconventional campaigning by some Hillary supporters. We'll just see how the DU folks respond.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)R B Garr
(16,975 posts)to Bernie...? There are so many fabricated conspiracy theories out of thin air, the latest that she paid off the GOP Benghazi committee to make her look good. I can only imagine the histrionics if there was an actual plane flying around. But these people think it's funny -- if it's done to Hillary.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,771 posts)I'm a Bernie gal, but honestly, it's nice to finally see another big enthusiastic crowd for Hillary. I think this is the first since her announcement.
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Thanks for the thread, NorthCarolina.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)silenttigersong
(957 posts)SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)appalachiablue
(41,171 posts)been changed to the Jefferson-Clinton Dinner I don't think, although Jackson is very unpopular to many for his Indian genocide action.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Why would anyone think that spending money to taunt Hillary supporters is a worthwhile investment? This makes no sense at all.
It's a pretty unsophisticated and juvenile stunt. But, maybe someone follows the philosophy that "any publicity is good publicity" no matter how desperate it makes them seem to be.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Still fun though
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Bernie Sanders also spoke there.
All of the faux outrage from Clinton supporters about this is pretty silly since the event wasn't exclusively a Hillary rally.
Welcome to DU!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I was unaware of that. <latella>Never mind.</latella>
Thanks also for the welcome.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Campaigning is just starting, I really wish they wouldn't take the fact that Bernie Sanders is going to try to win the Democratic nomination so personally. If your a Clinton supporter reading this post, hears something that may be surprising to you: sometimes you guys sound unhinged, over the top, and counter-productive to the Clinton campaign just like you accuse Sanders supporters of being.
This is one case where I have seen both sides do it. However, the OP isn't something that should get HRC supporters upset.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I think it's great! I admit I don't fully understand it, but it's still great. Very entertaining. Do more! Do more!
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I wasn't aware that Sanders was there too.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)The way you (as in HRC supporters) feel about some Bernie supporters (i.e. over-the-top, tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts, etc.) is the way some people feel about some HRC supporters too. Not meant as an insult or slur, just a reminder (to myself as well) not to alienate potential Democratic voters in the Presidential Election. Only the second paragraph had to do with this specific post, someone flew a Bernie banner over a Democratic primary dinner, not a Clinton-exclusive event.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)has to be the funniest! Whomever is responsible deserves a medal. I hope so, too NorthCarolina. btw, I'm in Durham. Can you tell me where you are? Rats! Charlotte is hours away.
Victor and I are Bernie supporters.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Digit
(6,163 posts)I am originally from Arlington, Va and only came down here in my later years. My politics reflect that and I lean to the left. Anyway, greetings to you all!
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...classless.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)...stupid stunt.
I understand that the cool folks here at DU find this inspiring.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)thesquanderer
(11,991 posts)They are about building awareness/enthusiasm. How well they work, I have no idea. But I don't think an airplane banner, a lawn sign, bumper sticker, etc. ever changed anyone's mind.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Who knew there are so many delicate flower American voters who allow their votes to be influenced by supporters, banners, etc.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)I'd hate to think whomever rented the plane didn't cover all their bases.
FSogol
(45,526 posts)MrWendel
(1,881 posts)reeks of desperation. I'm not sure why, but its early.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Cheesy - really
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I like the humor. Though most probably thought is was a promotion for the Hillary event. Some of those shiny scalps need some sun lotion before they really feel the bern.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Although I doubt it have any real effect on the voters or the outcome of the caucus.
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)That's pretty funny. I hope part of your donation to the Sanders campaign went toward that too.
lame54
(35,321 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)And as the plane banner was telling us... Steve Earle and OWS also tell us!
THIS REVOLUTION STARTS NOW!!
silenttigersong
(957 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)WWII aviation goggles, hair blowing, mouth wide open in joy, bug stains on his teeth.
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Gee I think I FEEL THE BERN after seeing this!
& recommend!!