Bernie Sanders draws sharpest contrast with Clinton yet

[Uncle Joe]

Democratic presidential candidate Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) leads a march to the Iowa Events Center before the start of the Jefferson-Jackson dinner on Oct. 24, 2015 in Des Moines, Ia. Photo by Scott Olson/Getty



DES MOINES, Iowa – Dramatically highlighting his contrasts with Hillary Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders used his speech to the Iowa Jefferson-Jackson dinner Saturday night to make his sharpest and most aggressive critiques of the Democratic front-runner thus far.

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Without mentioning her by name, Sanders fired off a series of back-to-back jabs clearly aimed at the weakest parts of Clinton’s resume as he portrayed himself as the true progressive in the race who “will govern based on principle not poll numbers.”

On the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, which Clinton recently opposed, Sanders said he was there first. “I did not support it yesterday. I do not support it today. And I will not support it tomorrow,” he said. “It is not now, nor has it ever been, the gold standard of trade agreements.”

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On the Keystone XL pipeline, which Clinton seemed to favor as secretary of state but recently opposed, Sanders said he was there first, too. “If you agree with me about the urgent need to address the issue of climate change, then you would know immediately what to do about the Keystone pipeline. Honestly, it wasn’t that complicated,” he said. “To me, that was a no-brainer and that is why I have opposed the Keystone Pipeline from the beginning.”

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On the Keystone XL pipeline, which Clinton seemed to favor as secretary of state but recently opposed, Sanders said he was there first, too. “If you agree with me about the urgent need to address the issue of climate change, then you would know immediately what to do about the Keystone pipeline. Honestly, it wasn’t that complicated,” he said. “To me, that was a no-brainer and that is why I have opposed the Keystone Pipeline from the beginning.”

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On every issue, Sanders said he faced a “fork in the road.” “I am proud to tell you when I came to that fork in the road I took the right road even though it was not the popular road at the time,” he said.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-draws-sharpest-contrast-cliton-yet

[aidbo]

1. Just sayin'

[Agschmid]

3. Probably carries a bottle of Sirachi around with him...

Haha

[aidbo]

7. Luckily I don't have to carry sriracha around w/ me because every where I go, there it is.

[Agschmid]

8. Well I murdered the spelling of that word.

Time for bed, stay hipster!

[Uncle Joe]

4. Harry Truman

I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell.

Harry S Truman


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[aidbo]

10. Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -Shakespeare

[ChisolmTrailDem]

2. Quite frankly, I'm sick of all this I'm this, I'm that and I'll do this, I'll do that. How about we

take pride that we have good candidates and pivot to discussing issues, rather than personalities and records, which have been mulled over and over already. We know who they are and what they've done. Time to grow up and abandon the elementary school playground petulance that abounds in GD-P. Let's get to discussing what we intend to do if elected and *GASP!* work together to get our platform to the American people.

[Agschmid]

5. I like what you stand for I just don't think it will work in The General

... Discussion: Primaries.

See what I did there?

Thanks for trying to be a voice of reason but many of us have now been offended on both sides, friendships which use to exist are gone.

It won't be healed overnight.

[BootinUp]

9. Not to mention the top two candidates

are still engaged in somewhat of a battle. That won't change until we know the outcome of Iowa and New Hampshire. Bernie just made that clear.

[JDPriestly]

14. Iowa and New Hampshire: 10 electoral college votes between them.

Iowa has 6; New Hampshire has 4.

California has 55.

There are 538 electors in the Electoral College.

Thus, together Iowa and New Hampshire supply less than 2% of the electors in the electoral college.

Yet some place huge importance on the 10 votes from Iowa and New Hampshire, two fairly conservative states compared to California or Oregon or Washington with, combined 74 delegates to the Electoral College.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_%28United_States%29

[BootinUp]

16. You didn't factor in momentum or the cost to change it after IA and NH nt.

[Uncle Joe]

6. We may know but many people don't and this was about their differences on the issues.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results but it can be a most useful guide.

[liberal_at_heart]

11. So we should just skip the primary then should we?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

12. No. I'm suggesting the discourse become a LOT more intelligent rather than continuing to engage

in the same tired inter-accusations and personal attacks and the downright derision that is expressed over and over and over again about the same old old old stuff GD-P has been embarrassing itself doing thus far.

We have two candidates all the way to July '16 (Sorry O'Malley fans, he deserves a post in the next administration). Are we seriously going to continue shitting on each others favorite for the next 9 months while the republidiots take notes and make ads using shit competing Dems have dug up in the name of winning? The same old personal attacks and retrudging of the same old misteps over and over?

You know what? I have no idea how you discuss issues in GD-P rather than engage in a repeating cycle of redundancy. Fucking booooring! But goddammit can we please figure it out?? Can we please build up our candidates instead of tearing each other down and each of them down? Or do we opt to continue with the school yard spoiled brat whining about the same old things over and over and over and over and over...?

[Uncle Joe]

13. There were no personal attacks in this OP it was all about the issues, long term committment

to them and judgement.

Bernie did right in his speech for it exemplified his moral and political courage in supporting the right issues even when they were unpopular and whether one likes it or not, that just simply hasn't been the case with every candidate.

[99th_Monkey]

19. Before Hillary mimicked Bernie's positions on a string of key issues

Hill's people often complained about "rude attacks" on poor Hillary, by Bernie supporters pointing out
those differences and raising tough questions.

Hillary's multiple "evolutions" trying to erase any stark differences between her and Sanders,
is a painfully obvious strategy to try to render Bernie "invisible" or "redundant" or some such.

She's doing this becauseboth her polls and Bernie's huge crowds told her it was expedient
to do so, plain and simple.

Now apparently, Hillary peeps are sick of hearing about issues altogether.

I have yet to hear what they DO want to talk about, except maybe to say how Clinton's positions "are
so close" to Hillary's new positions now that ... well .. "why would anyone feel compelled to vote for Bernie anymore?"

[Uncle Joe]

25. Precisely.

[99th_Monkey]

17. If I were a Hillary supporter, I'b also be "sick" of hearing how my candidate keeps changing her mind

most recently, to mimic a string of Bernie's very progressive positions on issues,
issues that were obviously & powerfully resonating with huge numbers of voters.

So no big surprise that you're sick of it, but I think this is Bernie's signal that pointing
out contrasts on real issues that voters actually deeply care about is what his campaign
is mostly about, and it's not going away anytime soon.

I suggest you get used to it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

15. REC!

[99th_Monkey]

18. Go Bernie!! This is an awesome development, one that I've been eagerly awaiting as a matter of fact

I was getting impatient with Bernie's mr. nice guy kid gloves treatment of Hillary,
while she blithely goes around changing her positions on issues, positions that Bernie
staked out from the very beginning of his campaign, wait, make that from the beginning
of his decades in DC.

He can't let her totally skate like that, without getting called out for becominging the
"whatever Bernie's positon is, that's mine too" candidate. The M$M certainly is not
calling her on it, except to mostly just be her mouthpiece .. "Oh look! Hillary & Bernie
have the same positions now, so why would anyone vote for a Socialist?"

Hats off to Bernie for kicking it up a notch, it's high time he did.

[Uncle Joe]

22. It was a great speech, 99th Monkey

and Hillary left him no choice but to make those critical distinctions.

[LongTomH]

20. I was there Saturday. Bernie's speech was electrifying!

I was in the bleachers (cheap seats) with the rest of the delegation from the greater Kansas City area. I'm glad he's finally delineating the differences between him and Hillary Clinton.

And, remember this was entirely a speech on issues and Bernie's record. He made no, repeat, no personal attacks on Sec. Clinton.

[azmom]

26. How cool. Watched it on CSPAN. Did you attend

Any of the other festivities?

[LongTomH]

28. I was at the rally earlier and marched across the Women of Achievement Bridge with Bernie!

[azmom]

29. Nice. So happy for you.

[Demeter]

21. Thanks for the lifeline, Uncle Joe

It was getting rather grim in here. Nightmare-provoking grim.

[Uncle Joe]

30. Thank you, Demeter.

[Duppers]

23. K & R

[Live and Learn]

24. K&R nt

[azmom]

27. Stick a fork in her. She's done.

Bernie did us proud. Loved it.