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Related: About this forumHow many Black Politicians has Bernie Sanders stumped for? I can only find Jesse Jackson.
I asked a few people to get back to me on that issue as I was wondering why more black politicians have not endorsed Bernie, after all He Marched with Dr King!! Was arrested at a sit in!!! Obviously those two things plus his votes on Welfare mean he should be a shoo in to win the black vote. I mean, are all of us not interested solely in wefare benefits? Perhaps not, but we should be!!
(Some worry about equality... I was comforted yesterday when I complained that white men get a piece of pie while the rest of us get crusts. I was told the crust is the best part!! Why would I want the sweet potato filling anyway? Boy, am I lucky!! He sure corrected my thinking! I'm totally fine with watching them eat pie while I nibble crusts now. Hey! Maybe they'll drop some crumbs on the floor and I can just lick them up quietly.)
Here I go digressing again! This primary has seen many endorsements. I'm trying to figure out why more are not coming his way and thought that maybe we should look at who he stumped for to see likely endorsers.
Please post if you find something.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)It hurts because I wanted to know.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I'm starting to understand the term "emoprog."
Thick skins, people.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)If you're hurt by anonymous online posters not getting back to you, it may be time to re-evaluate a few things in your life.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Response to WorseBeforeBetter (Reply #17)
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BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)But I think the main reason is that he hasn't been a registered Democrat. He's been an independent his entire time in Congress.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Hmm. Thanks.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)think
(11,641 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)nomination in 1984 and 1988.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)A very short time later Shumlin appointed Sanders wife to two government commission positions.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)He actually did make speeches for Jesse Jackson and his bid for the Democratic nomination. I don't know why you are set on lying about that.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)brooklynite
(94,598 posts)...which is fine by me (Elizabeth Warren does the same); I'm not sure it fits the narrative of some of his supporters however.
IIRC, not so much nationally, but in Vermont, yes...including Chuy Garcia here in Chicagoland.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)This is good. I like knowing these things.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)When I get my welfare check, you are welcome to join the rest of us when we go to Fire Island but you have to bring your own twinks and rough trade!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Are the welfare checks retroactive? I have so much money coming if it is!! Years and years of delicious welfare checks, a black person's dream!!
I cannot wait for our vacation! Ooooh!! Pie crusts for everybody!! It's the best part, I'm told!
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)Now since I don't partake nowadays, I may have to keep my distance when y'all fire up, but I ain't gonna stop you from gettin' your groove on and since I'll be rather busy myself, I won't have time to be hatin'
msrizzo
(796 posts)Can a Puerto Rican get in on this?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Because he's fun!
If you bring your husband I'll bring the Gio and we can send them off to te corner to drink Scotch and Henessey and mind their own damn business!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I want a bonfire and lots of good food!
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Damn! I thought ya'll bought hot cars and mink stoles with them. I think Ronnie Raygun told us that. I could never figure out the math though. If a welfare check on average is 500.00 a month and a mink stole and hot car payment is 800.00 a month, where does the extra money come from to make the payments? Asking for a friend with Stockholm Syndrome.
msrizzo
(796 posts)The one that lives in your house but has to hide in the closet when the social worker comes by.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I work at a hospital and see people of all colors and ethnicities on welfare. Some working, some working low-wage jobs. There's a HUGE problem in this country, but do go on...
#economicjustice
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)WillyT's post left me highly confused
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)we can and cannot make fun of.
This fucking place.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)and decided to get some mileage out of it. Lame.
Number23
(24,544 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)limes and salt. I'll make margaritas.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I can't figure out how to word a query to find out what black politicians either Sanders or Clinton have endorsed or stumped for. I already had read about Jackson here on DU or I wouldn't even know that one.
Still, I seem to have missed the OP or comment in which you told us the names of the many black politicians Hillary has stumped for, that you mentioned in passing in an earlier comment that earn her the black vote.
I'm also still trying to figure out just what Hillary has ever done FOR the black community, as opposed to TO the black community, that have earned her the loyalty the polls are showing.
Do I think Bernie is the next messiah for the black community? Nope. But I don't see that Hillary is either, so I do wonder why the polls aren't closer to random support for each. I'd say that really, the black community needs to run their own candidate to be able to guarantee than they'll get more than lip service out of any politician. One more willing than Barack Obama to address the issue of police murdering and maiming black men, or tossing them in jail on charges that see white men walking out free men. I think Bernie would, but I can't guarantee it. And that's why I support him. I actually think he'll be better for black Americans than Hillary will, with her history of race-baiting and semi-Southern strategy. I still think he'll need to be pushed to keep it a priority, but I think that would be true of any of the current candidates.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)With me. They tend to let off after a while then I can have the actual conversation.
think
(11,641 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)think
(11,641 posts)JOHN D. WALLER, Staff Writer
POSTED: 08/11/2008 02:58:55 AM EDT
Monday, August 11
BENNINGTON U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders did not speak highly of President George W. Bush's years in office on Saturday.
"We have the worst president in modern history," Sanders, an independent, said. "I say that with no joy."
Sanders attempted to rally support for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign Saturday. He spoke to about 80 people at Mount Anthony Union Middle School, telling them America has been heading in the wrong direction over the last seven and a half years.
~Snip
Sanders urged the Vermonters in attendance not only to vote for Obama in the upcoming election, but to convince others to do the same, as Obama will likely win their state, he said.
full source:
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/ci_10163286
I will bookmark this so any answers can be found easily in the future.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)"i'm not saying anything, I'm just asking..."
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)I have very high confidence in your ability to spin any answers you might get.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Response to bravenak (Reply #41)
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)I believe that was Sanders first endorsement from a Congressional Democrat. Ellison followed soon after.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/politics/bernie-sanders-congressional-endorsement/index.html
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I'm cool like that.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)mucifer
(23,550 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Shocking, I know.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)That's rather presumptuous, wouldn't you say? Sure, maybe at DU or the Clinton Cave, but DU and the Clinton Cave aren't the real world, now, are they? (Aaah, it felt good to throw that back for a change...)
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)This is about you claiming to speak for other black people, and how presumptuous that is. Of course, the hallelujah chorus will be along any moment to back you up, but there is life beyond DU's protected groups and the Clinton Cave. Which, by the way, has only 9 people online right now. Solidarity, people! Show the site a little love!
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)Tavis Smiley is as much of a pariah nowadays as Dr. Cornel West.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)We're not your trained monkeys.
Politicians know who's buttering the bread after office, and it's not one Mr. Bernard Sanders. Bill and Hill will take care of 'em.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)You're welcome.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Serving out of self interest. That is our real problem. Sad to say, that includes many of my democratic latino politicians.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)The "endorsement" question pretty much answers itself, but we all can play along in yet another divisive OP.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Have a good night.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)something I haven't watch since college. Yes, I'm in a weird mood.
Enjoy your movie and have a good night yourself.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Huh?
Well?
They must all be Jew haters.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)What comes around, goes around. You asked for it, you got it.
And it ain't fucking Toyota.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)You have been amazingly calm in these threads. Calling out the bullshit, throwing out good questions, and making people think. Giving a lot of opportunities to learn.
We don't agree on everything (a fair bit), but it's fun to watch an educator work, especially with people who don't want to listen.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I did decide that some needed an education after this summer, tough love, lectures, mirrors, etc.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Didn't realize that little gem came out of Hill's mouth. This has become a useful thread after all!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)at http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017300425
and tried to start another one today, but it was juried out.
It's nonsense, as was pointed out in his/her first thread about it. You need context which was discussed there.
And I say this as a Bernie supporter. There are so many good reasons one might prefer BS to HRC, there's no reason to make stuff up, quote people out of context, etc.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I don't think she's racist. But I also don't believe she's the great champion of AAs that many on DU would have us believe...
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)...well, I'd say that perspective that is a little more defensible, though honestly, I don't even really see it as that. I think it was engaged conversation, and if people use sarcasm and such to make a point, I don't necessarily equate that to being dismissive or being a smart-ass.
Though I think you and I would agree in thinking that BS would be at least as much a champion for the AA community as HRC, and probably more. It will be interesting to see whether he can make significant inroads there between now and March.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)"don't you know who I am" treatment at NN...we're not going to go through this again, now are we?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)As I've said to several people on here, I'm not surprised that Bernie isn't doing well with black folks. I'm shocked that Hillary IS.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)That would actually be somewhat of a positive use of white privilege (see: Tim Wise).
Truth is, some white people would actually listen if it came from another white person.
Granted, though, that Hillary was throwing a bit of shade there but remember that she also said
"imagine what we would feel if white drivers...white offenders..."
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Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)They shape the conversation CNN, MSNBC. Bernie's "problem with black people" is the official meme of this election. See OP for classic example.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)"But what have you done for us recently". Down here in Arkansas the ACORN community radio station find fault with just about all the local and national political figures for not doing anything about jobs for the minorities. When I was listening they were grilling the mayor of Little Rock as to why when they have projects going on the contractors do not hire any local people to even do jobs like sweep up. So the economic issues are present but not coupled to national politics. They even gripped about when the Clinton Foundation came to Pine Bluff that no local people were hired to even bring food or sandwiches. I have heard this a lot about most of the Liberal and Progressive groups, like the locals are not good enough to even sweep the floors.
Personally I think that the issue of economic equality is what will help every one. I saw it before the housing crisis where the low income people were succored into loans that anyone in there right mind knew they could not afford, but the loan writer made a commission so no one cared.
But as far as Sanders support of different people, I really don't know. He was there when the activists were doing their thing. I went to Selma as a young 17 year old and came back with stitches in my noggin and a big lump there, and trying to figure out an excuse to tell my right wing parents. My brother though was attending KKK rallies in our area of South Arkansas.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I am an SJ will provide equal opportunity for EJ type myself.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I believe that full equality and changes to the system are needed before any disadvantaged person will recieve their fair share and that money cannot cure racism. I am a social justice over economic justice person in that I see both as integral, but know that the distribution will be unfair until we solve some social problems and design a way to ensure we will not have another situation like under FDR where black domestics were left out of social security or black veterans could not use the GI Bill.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Many people were left out of the New Deal.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Nobody, even FDR, was perfect.
LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)takes many generations for it to filter down. God, there is still prejudice against American Indians. We can look at how rich blacks are treated. I can't remember when the police killed a rich black man at a traffic stop. It has happened (accidentally though).
I really think that the non-whites have got to get out and start voting. I read all the time where in a small town that is 60%+ black and has a white city council, a white major and white police force. That makes no sense at all if the POC are voting. I really do not believe they are.
We have a great community radio station that ACORN set up and it covers a lot of these things.. KABF.ORG BTW most people do not know that ACORN was originally Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now started in Little Rock. After a bit they changed it to Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
bravenak
(34,648 posts)F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)It took me a while to see why people put social justice first rather then coupled with economic justice. But I agree.
This is the biggest reason I think I split off from working with the ISO. They always intertwined the economic mechanisms of our society with the mechanisms or systems of racial and social control. While they are immensely closely linked, they are separate. Capitalism may be a huge part of the problem, but the fully developed state of racial control is absolutely distinct. However close you may get economically, you will not achieve full equality without meaningfully addressing the perpetuation of racism and white supremacy, and to be blunt, the genocide of black Americans. I never really felt like they did that, though to be fair they did so far more than most, and probably better than me.
The same I believe applies to gender inequality (and that includes the identity inequality that stems from gender inequality).
I don't think that any of this can be done without a movement that addresses things from every angle. Individual pieces will be solved, but like the Civil Rights Act or FDR's economic populism, it will eventually be eroded. We need a movement that listens and adapts quickly, reacting to input from activists of all stripes and involving people in a fully-developed conversation prioritizing minority speech. People have to engage; ignorance is our greatest enemy.
Education is always the answer. Like I said, it's fun to watch you in these threads. I get a lot from it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I have been struggling to put to words exactly what my deal is and I had a eureka moment and went from there. The pie crust thing really had me thinking how many really think it is their due to have a higher position in the social order and sweep social issues into the economic issues BECAUSE they know we will never get to those, ensuring them a continue place of privilege.
Just because someone labels themselves left, does not make it so. They are ALL WAY to MY right, and yours.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Sanders is attempting to redefine one meaning right now. We'll see if he does. I think he's already made a huge difference in running simply an anti-capitalist campaign, if only in name and not in manner.
Being left will always mean total and unrelenting commitment to social equality above and beyond all else, because without that awareness, there is no way we're strong enough to break free of the current place we're in. I prefer to use racial awareness, knowledge, and resolve for equality as measures for social justice, as we're going to see huge disparities in more conventional metrics for generations. I like those measurements because they never imply the problem is going to be solvable. Racism will probably never be fully cured--certainly not within the next century or three. (Not that I have any way of knowing.) Leftists will fight for that awareness even more strongly then for that change, because solutions and change only arise from that ultimate respect we can give each other. I know you're an atheist, as am I, and it's that kind of "well, we're each random bits of things floating around inconsequentially throughout a vast and wondeful universe, so what claim of being "better" than you or it could I possibly have?" respect we are going to need in order to get things fixed. We have to be able to have equality between each of us individually before we can have equality as a society.
There's a lot of varying shades of leftists in our global political system, but being left will always mean that, to me.
That's a problem with any of our candidates, unfortunately. None are all that left.
So the question becomes, how do we get people to understand? What's the most effective way to question the privileged in such a manner that they understand another perspective? How do we communicate, what do we teach? How do we bring empathy into a society?
I think that questioning the privileged is a job of us all. The oppressed need to resist, as they always have. But the privileged need to fight their privilege with the same commitment.
There's been things around here talking about the privileged refusing to lift others to the same level before moving on. 15,000 show up for a teacher's strike, but only 6,000 for an MLK Day march. Without denigrating the strike, if that kind of support existed for blacks in Seattle, we would be far further along the way for social justice here. This is on the privileged, and always has been. But getting them to recognize and refute their privilege is all sorts of fun, as you know.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)that up until lately Bernie has not been all that well known. So if someone in another state is running for office would they even ask the little known congressman/senator from Vermont to stump for them?
They would more than likely ask an ex-president or his wife to do that - someone everyone knew.
If I am not mistaken Bernie endorsed Jessie Jackson because they had worked on issues together in the past.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Bernie has not spent his political life aiming at the presidency.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)him until lately.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Is Brunch with Bernie on Thom Hartmann.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)night time crew being able to speak their minds.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I wanted him to win so bad. Even sent a little money.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)Keith Ellison did endorse Sanders...although, being from Minnesota, that wasn't exactly a surprise (I fully expect Sanders to win Minnesota on Super Tuesday)
bravenak
(34,648 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)He was sworn in on Jefferson's Quran.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/05/AR2007010500512.html
How cool (and smart) is that? Even an atheist (me) admires it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I was happy to see him use that book though. Our congress is not very diverse in that way. Kinda scary to me.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)all the white folks think that all blacks loves them some Jesus...you are ruining our reputation (says this agnostic)!
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SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I adore gospel music (most sorts) - does that count....?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)When they comes into de field! Law! I jus puts on my bess face, and sho nuff, they say, "That negress loves her some Jesus, look how happy she be!"
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)The mental picture you just gave me. I have no words, not even a smilie....!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)But when I heard about the Quran, I said, "That is a smart, smart man."
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)Very cool. I like him.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)endorsed Hillary.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)High five! Fist bump!
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
bravenak
(34,648 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's not because he's a racist. I'm not sure he stumped for many white ones outside of Vermont.
That wasn't his focus. He was focused on working on issues as a House member and then as a Senator -- and on representing Vermont.
He was not collecting favors for an eventual run at the White House. And he was a political independent, so he was not doing the partisan thing either.
Nor was he a widely known national figure that other politicians were begging to come to their states.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I don't believe the OP is genuinely interested in knowing the truth of the matter.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)from his opponent in his 1990 Congressional race...Dolores Sandoval
Sanders does have at least one unequivocal fan among African Americans who have known him well. Dolores Sandoval, a Democrat who lost to Sanders in the race for the U.S. House in 1990, says, "It's always been my impression that he's been good on racial issues." She singles out his 2002 House vote opposing the U.S. invasion of Iraq, which Sandoval describes as "a racist endeavor."
Sandoval predicts that Sanders "is going to get support in the black, Latino and other minority communities because he's talking about jobs."
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)a very very interesting and very very smart black woman.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)The 73-year-old socialist has focused on class inequities throughout his career, and that emphasis encompasses many of the fundamental concerns of African Americans and Latinos. But Vermont's 95 percent white makeup means "he hasn't been forced to look at these issues through the lens of color," says Hal Colston, the African American director of Partnership for Change, a Burlington-area group advocating greater inclusiveness in public education.
That's certainly the way it looks to me as well.
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)stay on track!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Learn the players. And what an oxymoron is.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Seriously, why is this such challenge for you to grasp?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Whatever gets you through the day.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)It actually made me think.
As I understand it, 'third-way progressive' means self-described progressive on economic justice issues, but moderate or ignorant on social justice and / or race matters.
You'll need to ask her for a better definition since she coined the term.
What's with your hectoring insults toward people having an intelligent conversation?
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)And really do not watch or count endorsements by skin color!
Now if you had pointed to an issue and his support or non support then that is a fair question.
But do really need to continue the 'Bernie hates blacks meme' on DU or anywhere?
Do you want to define every action based on skin color? And if so, are you not part of the problem by constantly pointing that out?
I think you need to broaden your view to all those who seek to fight for equality for all, regardless of their skin color, gender preference, religious or any other preference you can imagine!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I just want to know why Blacks should give bernie their votes. One measure of helping to promote social justice is through providing support to our politicians. It helps our concern be addressed or at least brought up to have blacks in government. Hillary stumps for our politicians, I wanted to see if he did as well. Compare their records, if you will.
Blacks do not do as well when we do not have politicians in office who are black to bring up our concerns, just as we do not do well with all white police forces or all white juries, there is so much bias, we MUST worry about OUR skin color. Because we are in danger, the only group in as much or more are native americans, the two groups who have been done worse, our people MUST BE CONCERNED WITH OUR COLOR, it is dangerous not to.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)not only of people of color but also for the LGBT community, even when it was not politically correct.
One can campaign for a person of color, but then vote for a war of aggression where it predominately affects persons of color who seek a change in their lives and strive for a higher education, these people of color might reside in a different country, but they matter.
Ultimately this is not based on a person's skin color, it is based on the on the opportunity presented to ALL people and in my opinion is what we need to focus upon. Every person should be given an an equal opportunity to excel, it should not be based on their skin color.
I am disheartend to see the race card being played once again. I will acknowledge that race plays a role, but I do not want to pertuate that role.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)weapon. That is why I coined the term Third Way Progressive. Some do not know how insensitive it is for self described leftists to attack blacks with such insulting language. Some think it is their place to speak to us thus and refuse to correct this hurtful and possibly bigoted use of that phrase. I hope we can stop the use of that term towards blacks, as it can give them the possibly mistaken impression that they are dealing with a suspect individual.
Since every person is NOT given an equal chance to excell, the colorblind theory turns out to have racist results. It is unfortunate that many choose to ignore this in favor of their own world view, one which makes no privisions for how things actually are, but instead relies on how they should be as a jumping off point. That attitude leave us in this place of imbalance.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)those he endorsed and stumped for. As of now I will also accept women, lgbtq, disabled, and any poc running for office or who ever ran for office that he endorsed and stumped for or have endorsed him.
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bravenak
(34,648 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Run against rubio and their support on this board of former.Republican and 3rd party candidate in florida
Which was allowed
When that happened I sent email and snail mail to hrc and was unanswered looking for some support for the winner of the Florida senatorial primary..at the time I didn't know.Sanders but I.did know Clinton. Unanswered mails unanswered emails.ànd Kendrick meek a man who would have made.Florida.proud was waylayed.in favor.of Charlie crist. Same to every one I did.send the same damn letter.
The fact.that the same people.who were.so.adamantly for crist in stead of meek are now the same ones pushing Hillary down my throat tells me all I need to know.about her and then.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Except me
jfern
(5,204 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)of the millitary who are in politics.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Since 1980 dems have been running from his ideas
Hekate
(90,714 posts)Good to see you. I await the answers with bated breath.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)name them I'll be waiting
Hekate
(90,714 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Sen. Sanders to stump for Obama in Portsmouth
U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders said he's so concerned about the future of the country that he's coming to various locations in the Granite State, including Portsmouth, to talk directly to local residents.
"The idea of making drastic cuts to senior programs including Medicare, and to Medicaid, and giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans, is in my mind not only immoral, it's bad economic policy," the Vermont lawmaker said. "I am a very strong advocate for grass-roots politics, and I want to talk about these issues in more than 30-second sound bites."
Sanders, an independent, will be at South Church at 10 a.m. Saturday, Sept. 22, before attending rallies at noon in Rochester and 5:30 p.m. in Conway. This coming Saturday, Sept. 15, Sanders will visit Keene, Claremont, Hanover and Concord.
Sanders said he is coming to New Hampshire to have a "dialogue" with people and encourage them to vote for President Barack Obama in November. If former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is elected, Sanders said, he fears America could devolve into an oligarchy.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20120913/NEWS/209130410
bravenak
(34,648 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)That's why I asked.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but honestly I wasn't sure
Fearless
(18,421 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I told you I am not. That should be enough.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)All context and all evidence to the contrary?
No.
I reject that claim.
You are still making things up.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I saw that. I was at a total loss for words.