Sanders supporters listen up! Please, stop calling our opponents names like "Clintonistas"!!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

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That's what rush calls Hillary's supporters. Don't be like rush, grow up and quit acting like petulant 3rd graders!

I don't care what they call us, but we don't have to go there! For one, it's wrong to call fellow Democrats names and for two, it's childish!

They are 'Clinton supporters". If you can't type that out, then don't bother posting!

Edited: Removed cuss words. Also, some Bernie supporters have asked me to also please ask Hillary supporters to please also not call Bernie names. So, if you support Hillary, please stop calling Bernie supporters names. Thank you.

[Ed Suspicious]

1. You don't like Hillarians or Hillpeople either then?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

7. No. Grow up. nt

[Ed Suspicious]

61. This BS supporting Berniebro thanks you for your concern.

Sandernista, out.

[lewebley3]

105. Sanders supporters have nothing to say for their man: So they attack Hillary!

[Ed Suspicious]

110. Right. Nice try. More projection from the socially liberal, economically conservative crowd.

Compassionate Conservatism lives in the Democratic Party..

[lewebley3]

147. Hillary is a Dem: She will sign anything Dem's have votes for: Thats what counts!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

135. Yeah, but she makes it so fucking easy, so fucking often,

Ya know what I mean?

Seriously, if any other candidate changed positions so radically, so often, and with so much predictability, they'd be laughed out of any race for any office, much less president.

[lewebley3]

146. Hillary has not change Her positions radically: Thats propaganda:

Hillary is a solid Dem: Your vulgarism reflect on you:
you are using them as place holders for your lack
of ideas.

Sherri Brown has just endorsed Hillary: He is a smart
Dem: and my favorite for VP: The GOP can not
win without Ohio.

[Ino]

127. I can't stop laughing... Hillpeople! (nt)

[Katashi_itto]

143. How about "The Hills Have Eyes?

[Doc Brown]

2. The Clinton supporters actually started it. Easy enough to google and check the date/time with

"Bernista" or "Sandersitas"

[upaloopa]

5. Mom he hit me first!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

8. I don't give a shit who started it! Grow up! nt

[Doc Brown]

25. I don't give a shit either. I'm just stating who started it.

[zappaman]

89. Hey welcome to DU!

Curious...how would you know who started it before you even got here?

[restorefreedom]

136. reading threads does not require a password. nt

[zappaman]

138. Of course...

of course.

[restorefreedom]

140. i used to read before i joined :) nt

[saturnsring]

95. s

[SidDithers]

49. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[MADem]

80. Uh, welcome to DU. Actually, the whole "Sandernista" meme started when

Sanders was running for Mayor of Burlington, VT. His campaign EMBRACED the term....so, whatever.

FACTS are important here--at least they used to be. Here's some evidence to back up my assertion, from 1989:

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/06/us/burlington-journal-exit-a-socialist-to-let-history-judge.html

It's not that ''Bernie,'' as everyone calls the 47-year-old politician, would have had much difficulty staying in office. After a few early stumbles, Mr. Sanders, whose socialist fervor remains unabated, has grown more popular locally despite losing a statewide Congressional race last year.

But he believes it is time to move on to other things, such as writing and lecturing. He says someone else must lead the ''progressive coalition,'' the informal third party that rallied around him and won 6 of the 13 seats on the Board of Aldermen. Those Aldermen came to be known in political circles as ''Sandernistas.''

And as for "BernieBros" -- that term is being used BY Sanders supporters in an endearing fashion. Again, I offer proof:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128066158

[dreamnightwind]

142. Correct

It was of course an attempt to use the socialist thing as an insult, trying to taint Bernie supporters by associating them with the Sandinistas of Nicaragua. I've since seen Bernie supporters proudly wearing the label, which is their choice, but I wouldn't recommend it, being seen as allies of the Sandinistas doesn't bother me at all but it would bother a lot of the general population.

Anyway the irony of the OP is rich. You're throwing a Clinton insult (which I have rarely if ever seen) back at us Bernie supporters, requesting we cease and desist, when it was just a rephrase of them playing the red card against Bernie supporters. Your OP should be addressed to the Clinton people, not the Bernie people.

For my money the best Clinton tags are Hillarians, Hillionaires, and Hillpeople. Clintonistas makes no sense, the Clinton supporters are way to the right of Bernie supporters and of the Sandinistas. I guess if you are Rush Limbaugh you think, or are paid to pretend that you think, they are far to the left so there is that.

On the Hillarysupporter site I noticed Clinton supporters calling us all sorts of truly disgusting nicknames, told me a lot about what kind of people are advocating for Hillary here. Some of them are just good Democrats with different political views, but there's a very different thing going on with others, which I will not attempt to describe but I see no place for it in the Democratic Party. I always thougght our party was better than that, got an education though.

[valerief]

3. If you're going to complain, be fair about it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110723225

BTW, I've never used an -ista term in relation to any candidate.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

11. If you haven't used it, then help me put a stop to it. And I have called out Clinton supporters for

tearing down our candidate, who may end up facing a republidiot challenger in the GE.

[valerief]

18. I actually usually trash Bernie-Clinton squabble threads. I'm killing time now, so

I'm responding today, but I'll likely continue with my trashing in the future. I'm more interested in policy than politics.

[MineralMan]

4. Same thing applies to "Bernie-bots" or "Berniebros."

They are Bernie Sanders supporters. Both sides are using negative-feeling names for supporters.

That trick never works.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. it's childish! And more than a bit annoying considering one of these two people will have to face

an opponent we cannot allow to win!

[MineralMan]

31. Yes. That's why I never use terms like that and

discount the opinion of posters who do. We're all on the same side here, or should be, anyhow. We oppose Republicans. The rest is just details. The voters will decide, not DU.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

41. Thank you MM. It looks like my fellow Bernie fans are going with the childish name calling...

...option. I am embarrassed by it.

[MineralMan]

48. Well, they do it at their own risk, on either side.

Convincing people to change sides is difficult enough without starting by calling them names. I don't think that ever works, really. What does work is to listen to their arguments and then make your own case, logically, calmly and reasonably.

It's like saying, "Pepsi drinkers are all complete morons. You should drink Coke. Here. Drink this and stop being an idiot."

Compare that to, "I've never really cared for the taste of Pepsi, even after trying it. Have you tried Coke? Here's one if you'd like to try it."

[A Simple Game]

133. Name calling is name calling no matter who does it or who they do it to.

So maybe you should set an example and tell everyone that you made a mistake by using the term republidiot in an earlier post. It does look hypocritical.

[LiberalArkie]

108. It would not be political if it wasn't childish. I haven't seen a political season yet

without the childish bullying, name calling and pushing that most grow out of in elementary school. But political season brings out the child in most people.

[BlueCheese]

93. Totally agree.

All these terms are immature and childish. And do nothing but cause people to immediately stop reading.

[arcane1]

6. I'm not a fan of the name-calling either n/t

[Autumn]

9. Thanks for the advice. I'll file it under

BFD

[ChisolmTrailDem]

12. Grow the fuck up! BFD??? Really? How childish! nt

[Autumn]

20. Guess what? It's a fucking primary, if your feelings get hurt because someone smears your

candidate or any candidate foe that matter or calls their supporters names then maybe you need a new hobby that doesn't give you a case of the sadz

[ChisolmTrailDem]

22. I'm not sad. I don't like seeing Bernie supporters being childish brats. nt

[Autumn]

33. Well as soon as you buy the board we will take your directive into consideration. Until then

I 'll just do as this poster says,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251728128#post15

ChisolmTrailDem (6,388 posts)
15. I'm not in charge, but I can say what I want. It is, after all, an open discussion board. nt

Spin your way out of that. Your post was very revealing.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

43. And I will be there every chance I get to call it out. nt

[Autumn]

45. You go right on ahead and do that and other posters will do what they chose. n/t

[ChisolmTrailDem]

77. I will. And I find it interesting that you would call her what rush calls her. I'll keep...

...that in mind whenever I see you around the board.

[Autumn]

128. What does rush call her? Got a link to me calling her what rush calls her?

Link or slink. I have no clue what he calls her, I call her HRC, Hillary or Clinton.

[Sheepshank]

130. chewing off the foot of your own Bernie Supporter

who'd a guess that's where you would go with you fellow supporters?

Not me. lol

[Autumn]

131. I have no Bernie supporters. I am a Bernie supporter.

Anyone can say they are a Bernie supporter and several have, but their words out them. Everytime

[Autumn]

134. Got that link to me calling Hillary what rush calls her? I've been waiting.

Link it or edit your lying post. I call her Hillary, HRC or Clinton. I'm going to keep asking until you post a link of me calling her what rush calls her. Even it means I have to ask "whenever I see you around the board.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251728128#post77

ChisolmTrailDem (6,409 posts)
77. I will. And I find it interesting that you would call her what rush calls her. I'll keep...

...that in mind whenever I see you around the board.

[Cheviteau]

122. Really?

I hope you don't get promoted to the 4th grade this year. The poster has a point. You don't. It's insane to sling mud and smear the very candidate that we may ask to carry our banner next November. You need to go the other side where that kind of shit is not only allowed but encouraged.

[Autumn]

129. Here's what's "insane", to use your term. Appointing one's self net nanny and telling people

what they may post and then turning around saying to another poster that they will post as they please.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251728128#post15

[whatchamacallit]

10. I agree

Hillary supporters are more akin to Contras than Sandinistas.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

14. OMG, really?? nt

[djean111]

13. I don't know if you honestly believe you are in charge, but you may want to cool your

authoritarian jets, there. Hillary supporters have been referring to "Bernistas" and such for quite a while. Don't hand it out if you can't take it, would be my advice.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

15. I'm not in charge, but I can say what I want. It is, after all, an open discussion board. I prefer

not to be calling our possible GE candidate negative and derogatory names.

[djean111]

19. Do you not get the hypocrisy? Yes, we ALL can say what we want.

I'm not in charge, but I can say what I want. It is, after all, an open discussion board.

Bwahahahaha! You just cannot give orders, that's all. Or expect to be obeyed. Real simple.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

23. So, you're opting for the childishness? nt

[djean111]

32. The childishness is on both sides. Although I don't think that Bernie's supporters have

created a website just to jeer at Hillary's supporters.

Anyway, I just ignore it, it is also a bit childish to think you can actually order other posters how to post. Just don't click, or use the filter thing. As you say, it is an open discussion board. Authoritarianism and bossiness will not work here. Why get all hissy-fit about what are basically just harmless names? And some of us, both "sides", really don't care; I am actually proud to be a Bernista or whatever.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

36. it's not an "order". It's a strongly-worded suggestion that we not damage our potential

Democratic nominee.

[djean111]

42. Um, no, it reads as a ranty little "order".

As a matter of fact, you just may sound like a "petulant 3rd grader", yourself.
You are getting needlessly and pointlessly agitated over something trivial.
Have a nice day.

[Autumn]

26. Really? You can say what you want but we can't post unless we say what you want us to say?

Read what you just posted and your OP. Fucking ridiculous. A bad case of do as I say and not as I do.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

30. So, you want to continue the negative name-calling. Got it. nt

[Autumn]

35. I'll post what I want. Got that? n/t

[ChisolmTrailDem]

38. Even if it's childish name-calling? Got it. nt

[leftofcool]

17. We are proud of the term Clintonistas. I also like Hillcats!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

21. Who is "we"? I'm a Democrat. Am I part of "we"? I like "Hillcats". At least it isn't negative and

making us look like brats.

[Bubzer]

125. You're facing an uphill slog on this one.

It's honorable that you want to see insults diminish. But I think you're off base here. People on DU don't care what that bloviating gas-bag Rush has to say about anything. He's slowly being marginalized into non-existence. I think Hillary supporters have largely embraced and taken over the term Clintonista, and have made it a positive term... regardless of how Rush intended it to be used.

I think ceding that term would be a win for Rush in the war of words... he'd have won because he will have successfully attached a negative meaning to it.

[bravenak]

37. I liked Hillcats! That actually did make me laugh out loud and feel fierce like a Tiger.

[sufrommich]

24. I don't mind "Clintonista" and I think "Bernistas"

is what Bernie supporters call themselves on DU.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

29. How about "Hillary supporters" or "Bernie supporters"? You can't tell me that when someone uses a

name like "Clintonistas", they're doing it because it's a term of endearment.

[sufrommich]

39. I don't know,I guess I don't understand the

negative connotation with "ista",it's a pretty common suffix and has been for awhile,it's just spanish for "ist".

[kenfrequed]

50. I actually like being a Sandernista

I never minded it all.

I do usually call 'Hillary supporters' just that.

[bunnies]

118. I was under the same impression.

Now I wonder... should I have minded being a Deaniac?

[sufrommich]

120. Deaniac was a very clever name.

Where it with pride.

[bunnies]

123. :)

[sufrommich]

124. :). nt

[Major Hogwash]

27. The Chisholm Trail is not in Texas.

According to Wikipedia.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. I really hate being told what to say, or do or how to act.

Especially from a keyboard warrior I don't personally know.

Please don't do that. I'll say whatever I feel the need to say, when I want to say and and how I want to say it.

Bernistas
BS supporters
Bernbullies
BernieBro

Give me an effing break, would you please? Sheesh. They dish it, they're getting it back.

[MohRokTah]

34. This thread is several months late.

It's impossible to unring the bell.

[kenfrequed]

47. I actually think I had to ask you personally

To not use 'BS' or 'BSers' several months ago.

[MohRokTah]

65. Oh brother

BO was thrown around on the internet throughout 2000. Seriously, using just initials is commonplace and if you don't like it, you should stay off Internet forums.

[Autumn]

68. At another site used by many here they make it clear BS stands for Bull Shit and they use that here.

I'm sure you know the place.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

70. When I see a Bernie supporter calling another Democrat names, I think "BS!" nt

[Autumn]

84. I don't lose any sleep on what Bernie or Hillary supporters do. I'm not their Mamma n/t

[MohRokTah]

72. You really need to thicken your skin

Politics ain't beanbag.

[Autumn]

83. It doesn't bother me at all just pointing out a fact.

I just consider the source and laugh it off.

[kenfrequed]

73. Considering your usual tone

It is hard not to take what you say as somewhat pointed, bordering on insult.

I also never used 'BO' because it was diminutive and absurd. I have enough typing skills that I can manage to type someone's name.

I think you are making excuses for bad behavior.

[MohRokTah]

75. If think you've never used a mobile device to post on Internet forums. eom

[livetohike]

40. Rush has fans here lately.ature and not funny. n/t

[kenfrequed]

44. *sigh*

Ok, I am going to say that this is a strange post.

I really hadn't seen 'clintonistas' before. Maybe I don't come here often enough. I usually say 'Clinton supporter' or 'Hillary supporter'

I DO see a bit more Bernista or Sandernista (I actually don't mind Sandernista as much... I actually kind of self apply it sometimes.)



But you know what? What I cannot stand is the absurd number of times I see Clinton supporters use the initials BS, frequently in the same sentence where they take the time to spell out the name of their candidate. I have also seen a lot of posts were Sanders people are referred to as BS'rs. I have always politely asked them to stop and they refuse or ignore my request.

Respect goes in all directions. I will continue to call them 'supporters' or whatever but I am not going to castigate the few times I see 'Clintonista' (this was the first on this message board) when I can find dozens of uses of 'BS' a day.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

74. "Respect goes in all directions. I will continue to call them 'supporters'" ...Thank you, Ken. nt

[grasswire]

78. yes. BS-ers.

I saw that yesterday. I also saw the word "unhinged" used yesterday for Bernie supporters.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

81. Link 'em, please. Thanks. nt

[grasswire]

116. sorry, I have no idea what threads I saw those in.

you can search, if you like.

[Art_from_Ark]

126. Here you go

The Bernistas have become unhinged...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110723225

[liberal_at_heart]

46. Your request would hold more weight if you also asked Clinton supporters to stop calling

Bernie Sanders supporter Bernistas.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

54. I have done that, multiple times. nt

[Godhumor]

55. I'm a Clinton supporter and I will suggest it

No need for those sorts of nicknames for any candidate's supporters.

[chillfactor]

51. The Sanders supporters...

will be the down-fall of Sanders...do not expect them to behave like rational, mature adults...

[Ed Suspicious]

66. #BERNIESUPPORTERSSOBAD

Ohh yeah. They're bad. Really bad.

[dorkzilla]

102. We suck, Ed. We’re MEAN!!!!

And you know we’re only doing this to piss people off, we don’t actually think Bernie is a viable candidate with the courage of his convictions who would make a much better president. I think they’re on to us.

[tblue37]

52. Yet today I saw a Clinton supporter's post calling Bernie supporters "Bernie-baggers" and saying

we are "as dumb as a brick and twice as thick" and that we "lack intellectual wherewithal."

I have *never* insulted anyone on DU, and neither have most other DU members. Yet those of us who favor Bernie get name-called like this.

There is *a lot* of ugly name-calling going on from both sides, but the perpetrators are a small but vocal group. Neither the majority of Bernie supporters nor the majority of Hillary supporters are playing that nasty game.

I wish those who are engaging in such unseemly attacks on either if the two people who will be our nominee would just knock it off. It is making DU suck.

[FSogol]

53. Translation: Don't Make ChislomTrailDem Turn this Station Wagon Around!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

57. Thanks for the laugh :) nt

[FSogol]

58. Thanks for (trying) to talk some sense into people.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

63. Well, I certainly have seen what it got me: NO WHERE. Oh well, kids will be kids. nt

[tblue37]

56. Precisely. nt

[Politicalboi]

59. How about avoiding posting on those flame posts

Let them have their pity party all to themselves. All 6 of them will end up fighting over their own words anyways, they don't need us.

[kacekwl]

60. Aggreed.

[d_legendary1]

62. You know for every one of these "peace" threads that pops up

Five or six "mud slinging" threads show up. Unfortunately you're not gonna convince the die-hards to drop the slurs, slang, or misinformation about the candidate you support. And in an election year even less though do I respect your efforts to have a decent argument about the issues.

I would like to have meaningful discussions about the issues, but this is DU...

[emulatorloo]

64. agreed it is a horrible strategy. I want Bernie to win. That means persuading undecideds

and soft HRC supporters who could still maybe be persuaded to stand up for Bernie in the primaries.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

71. Name-calling is a polarizing element. If someone is calling me names, I'm not likely to sympathize

with them on anything.

[angrychair]

85. Hard to take serious

That you really mean what you say when your own post only calls out one side on what is very clearly a group giving as much as it is getting.
Second, Bernie supporters from here have not set up a website, free from DU TOS rules, to insult Bernie supporters ("dumb as a brick and twice as thick" as an example).
I do not "name call" as you say. I do my best to keep my disagreements to policy and political philosophy differences. I think it would be best you did too and resist flame baiting by calling out one group over the other when no one is innocent.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

86. I have called out Hillary supporters for doing the same. That you haven't seen that does not

mean it hasn't happened.

[angrychair]

87. Not in this OP title

Not in the body of your OP.
Maybe in trying to defend it, yes you have. Unfortunately for you, you lit a fire with the language you used from the beginning.
No hard feelings from me but it might be more accessible with a broader message. Just saying.

[Smarmie Doofus]

67. How grievous. Then again, one could consider developing a sense of humor.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

69. It's not meant to be funny. Name calling is meant to be derisive and we wouldn't tolerate for...

...any other group of people.

Would we, Smarmie Doofus?

[Smarmie Doofus]

90. Wake up. What in the world are you talking about?

I call Sanders supporters "Sandernistas" all the time. And "Bernistas".

Jeeeeeezus Christ. I'm 61 years old. I grew UP in NYC. I KNOW *EXACTLY* who Chisolm was and IS, historically.

If you are arrogant enough and *DUMB* enough to think you're "On the Chisolm Trail", it may actually be ... to borrow movie dialogue popular in the period (OK I'll be specific: "DELIVERANCE"; since you're evidently a bit SLOW in this dept.) ... a case of: "Amtree.?? ! This river don't lead on to *Amtree*. Y'all done taken a wrong *TURN*."

Lighten up and get over it already. And see if you can find your way BACK.

Good god.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

96. What in the world are YOU talking about? Deliverance? LOL! My name is derived from the fact that I

am from a town that is quite literally on the Chisholm Trail, an old west Texas cattle trail that was used to move cattle from the ranches in Texas to San Antonio and then up to Kansas City, Kansas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chisholm_Trail



I am a Chisholm Trail Democrat, which is not an easy thing to be in these parts! And the reason the "h" is missing from my moniker is because I simply made a typo and didn't catch it before I hit the submit button on my DU registration. It bugs me to this day, but oh well.

So, I have no idea what you're talking about. ""If you are arrogant enough and *DUMB* enough to think you're "On the Chisolm Trail"... As I am literally on the Chisholm Trail at this very moment (well, it's a few miles to the west, but close enough), your comment makes no sense. Chisolm, who, historically?

[fredamae]

76. We cannot assume those attacking Clinton are

Bernie supporters no matter how "they" present themselves anymore than I consider Bernie attackers claiming to be Clinton supporters to be who they say they are.

Best to ignore the petty crap and plow forward. You are correct...This is being done to Divide Dems...Now Who would want that the Most?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

79. I do find it interesting that they repeat the insult rush limpballs uses to refer to Hillary's...

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...supporters.

[Fumesucker]

91. Some of us aren't Rush fans

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002374653

[fredamae]

82. Exactlty.......and I'm sure with

a bit more digging there's a ton more out there equally interesting.

[99Forever]

88. Those aren't terms generally use.

But thanks to you, I'm reconsidering that choice.

Congrats.

[BlueCheese]

92. I appreciate the effort.

I am not yet a full-on Clinton supporter (the NSA still sticks in my craw), but I do like her as a candidate.

I'm okay with the term "Clintonista".

I'm less okay with the threads basically accusing her of taking bribes from the Saudis, calling her supporters not thoughtful, saying that her black supporters are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, etc. etc. As far as my concerns with internecine fighting go, the term Clintonista is way, way, way down the list.

[Yupy]

94. Excuse me, you should not use the F word! I mean... give advice to yourself, please!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

100. You are right. I have made the necessary edits. Thank you and welcome to DU! nt

[Vinca]

97. Sanders supporters have been called a whole lot worse.

In more than 10 years I had never alerted on anyone until I was called a repulsive name for supporting Bernie. The jury agreed with me.

[saturnsring]

98. there shouldnt be any negative posting on either candidate here either, let the right do that.

karl rove and the gop don't need help from du'ers

[Cassiopeia]

99. The Grand Poo Bah has SPOKEN

All ye shall obey this post!

[dembotoz]

101. after the primary we will need to rally around whomever wins to fight the greater menace...the gop

was gonna put something cheeky in about let gather around president nominee Martin O....

but lets not break down any fences we can not mend

[RoccoR5955]

103. Sheesh, what a grouch! n/t

[relayerbob]

104. Yes, agreed

Alienating and vilifying one another is what has cost the Democrats in numerous elections in my 58 years. It also turns off people who might consider voting but just see the Dems calling names as just as bad as the Republicans. Grow up people. We need POSITIVE campaigns based on ideas, not hate and anger ... that feeds into the GOP narrative.

[Purveyor]

106. NO.

[Agschmid]

107. I think that's fair.

It won't happen but I appreciate the effort, and I will try to do better. I don't think I usually do this but I will pay attention.

Thank you.

[Jack Rabbit]

109. I never call Hillary supporters "Clintonistas"

I call my fellow Bernie supporters Sandernistas. First of all, it sounds like Sandinistas, a group of Nicaraguan revolutionaries who were a thorn in the side of the Reagan administration; as humans, they were far more honorable than Reagan or his advisers.

The suffix -ista deliberately brings up images of Mexican bandit/revolutionaries of a hundred years ago, who were more honorable than today's Wall Street banksters who bankroll Mrs. Clinton's presidential campaign.

So I would never call Mrs. Clinton's supporters or her organization Clintonistas. It's just not right.

[phylny]

111. I am first and foremost a progressive democrat.

I have given money to Bernie Sanders' campaign, but I will financially support the candidate who gets the nomination.

Therefore, I have no nasty words for any candidate or any supporters.

Stay united, stay strong

[Fast Walker 52]

112. Hillaryious!!!

Wait, was that bad?

[peacebird]

114. Watch out, I was given a 2 hides in 5 mins for adding an "s" to the front of Hillary.

People have extremely thin skin here if you criticize her highness.
In case you don't know, two hides close together gets your accouont frozen for review. Mine was down 4 days.

[Fast Walker 52]

132. wow, thanks for the warning

[fbc]

113. I prefer to be called a Sanderista

[marble falls]

115. I'm a Sandernista who thinks anyone too ashamed to be called a Clintonista can join us Sandernistas!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

117. I just call them Hillary supporters....

Also, see this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=727997

"Bernistas" was used first and some of the Bernie supporters took it as the insult it was intended to be.

I didn't.

I considered it to be an example of Hillary supporters being uninformed of the implications.

[Zorra]

119. Calling me a Sandernista is bestowing an honor. Please feel free

to call me a Sandernista anytime!

Origin of the term "Sandinista"

The Sandinistas took their name from Augusto César Sandino (1895–1934), the charismatic leader of Nicaragua's nationalist rebellion against the US occupation of the country during the early 20th century (ca. 1922–1934). Sandino was assassinated in 1934 by the Nicaraguan National Guard (Guardia Nacional), the US-equipped police force of Anastasio Somoza, whose family ruled the country from 1936 until they were overthrown by the Sandinistas in 1979.

Women in revolutionary Nicaragua
Main article: Role of women in Nicaraguan Revolution

The women of Nicaragua prior to, during and after the revolution played a prominent role within the nation's society as they have commonly been recognized, throughout history and across all Latin American states, as its backbone. Nicaraguan women were therefore directly affected by all of the positive and negative events that took place during this revolutionary period. The victory of the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) in 1979 brought about major changes and gains for women, mainly in legislation, broad educational opportunities, training programs for working women, childcare programs to help women enter the work force and greatly increased participation and leadership positions in a range of political activities.[98] This, in turn, reduced the burdens that the women of Nicaragua were faced with prior to the revolution. During the Sandinista government, women were more active politically. The large majority of members of the neighborhood committees (Comités de Defensa Sandinista) were women. By 1987, 31% of the executive positions in the Sandinista government, 27% of the leadership positions of the FSLN, and 25% of the FSLN's active membership were women.[99]

Supporters of the Sandinistas see their era as characterized by the creation and implementation of successful social programs which were free and made widely available to the entire nation. Some of the more successful programs for women that were implemented by the Sandinistas were in the areas of education (see; Nicaraguan Literacy Campaign), health, and housing. Providing subsidies for basic foodstuffs and the introduction of mass employment were also contributions of the FSLN. The Sandinistas were particularly advantageous for the women of Nicaraguan as they promoted progressive views on gender as early as 1969 claiming that the revolution would "abolish the detestable discrimination that women have suffered with regard to men and establish economic, political and cultural equality between men and women." This was evident as the FSLN began integrating women into their ranks by 1967, unlike other left-wing guerilla groups in the region. This goal was not fully reached because the roots of gender inequality were not explicitly challenged. Women's participation within the public sphere was also substantial, as many took part in the armed struggle as part of the FSLN or as part of counter-revolutionary forces.[100]

Nicaraguan women organized independently in support of the revolution and their cause. Some of those organizations were the Socialist Party (1963), Federación Democrática (which support the FSLN in rural areas), and Luisa Amanda Espinoza Association of Nicaraguan Women (Asociación de Mujeres Nicaragüenses Luisa Amanda Espinosa, AMNLAE). However, since Daniel Ortega, was defeated in the 1990 election by the United Nicaraguan Opposition (UNO) coalition headed by Violeta Chamorro, the situation for women in Nicaragua was seriously altered. In terms of women and the labor market, by the end of 1991 AMNLAE reported that almost 16,000 working women—9,000 agricultural laborers, 3,000 industrial workers, and 3,800 civil servants, including 2,000 in health, 800 in education, and 1,000 in administration—had lost their jobs.[101] The change in government also resulted in the drastic reduction or suspension of all Nicaraguan social programs, which brought back the burdens characteristic of pre-revolutionary Nicaragua. The women were forced to maintain and supplement community social services on their own without economic aid or technical and human resource.[99][102]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandinista_National_Liberation_Front#Origin_of_the_term_.22Sandinista.22

[Nevada Blue]

121. when I read threads like this

I just remember that when the chips are down, we are united, and a little back-and-forth stuff does not ultimately get in the way of that. When Hillary sat before the hearing committee last week, we all rallied around her. I'm sure that when the right starts slinging real mud at Bernie, everyone will rally round him as well. Therefore, the name-calling (or request for elimination of same) just tells me it's a slow news day and we're all just kind of circling round until the next real volley comes in from the right flank.

[restorefreedom]

137. i just assumed they were all shorthand

none of them bothered me. omalley needs one....omalleyites? omallarbars?

i don't give a shit what rush says. there is a lot at stake in this election, and if we don't have a little sense of humor, we will all be bonkers by election day. i respect the feelings of the op that is is immature, etc. and it may be. but i personally never found any of it demeaning

a proud bernista

[Orrex]

139. Sanders' supporters are welcome to use the term "Clintonistas"

Those who use it will thereby unmistakably reveal their true colors and motivation. Better to have them out in the open and easily identifiable.


And, once they've identified themselves, the adults can ignore them and discuss the issue like grownups.


k/r

[Mnpaul]

141. There is no escape from......

The Campaign Season of the Damned

H/T Aerows

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027289760

[Scuba]

144. I refuse to let Rush Limbaugh decide what words I use, or what they mean.

[Live and Learn]

145. Gotcha, will call you Bernbots from now on.

It makes me happy anyway.