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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:08 PM Aug 2012

"Private-Market Tooth Fairy Can’t Cut Medicare Cost" By Peter Orszag at Bloomberg News

Private-Market Tooth Fairy Can’t Cut Medicare Cost

By Peter Orszag at Bloomberg News

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-20/private-market-tooth-fairy-can-t-cut-medicare-cost.html

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The vast bulk of health-care costs arise from an extremely small share of patients, whose insurance will inevitably bear a substantial share of their expenses.

That’s why competition in health care doesn’t work as well as in other sectors, and it’s also why the key to keeping costs to a minimum is to encourage providers to offer better, less costly care in complex cases.

Unfortunately, proponents of moving Medicare to a private “consumer-driven” system, including Republican vice presidential hopeful Paul Ryan, seem to instead believe in a health-care competition tooth fairy -- that if we just increase the patient’s share of costs and bolster competition among insurance companies, the expense will come down. As Karl Rove recently argued, “Competition will lower costs by using market forces to spur innovation and improvement.”

Someone might want to tell that to the Congressional Budget Office, which evaluated Ryan’s original 2011 proposal to gradually move all of Medicare to private insurance companies. (In all these comparisons, we must remember that the goal is to reduce total cost -- to the government and the beneficiary combined -- compared with current projections. Merely shifting costs across the two categories is not a particularly impressive accomplishment.)

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"Private-Market Tooth Fairy Can’t Cut Medicare Cost" By Peter Orszag at Bloomberg News (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2012 OP
All the GOP has is voodoo economics and fairy dust. I mean, tooth fairy dust. freshwest Aug 2012 #1
We tried to in 2008 Hydra Aug 2012 #2
I didn't vote for a miracle, so I'm not surprised. The Messiah was not on the ticket. freshwest Aug 2012 #4
You're not surprised that the GOP is as strong as they were before the crash? Hydra Aug 2012 #5
They didn't need our help and we didn't give them any. They had 20 years of media in their favor. freshwest Aug 2012 #7
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #3
I'm glad to see someone addressing the GOP's unjustified faith in the market. CBHagman Aug 2012 #6
Thanks. freshwest Aug 2012 #8

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
1. All the GOP has is voodoo economics and fairy dust. I mean, tooth fairy dust.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:15 PM
Aug 2012

We need to make them go POOF!

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
2. We tried to in 2008
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:17 PM
Aug 2012

The GOP was DEAD. It took one of the most popular and likable Democratic Presidents ever to resurrect them.

...That was NOT the miracle I voted for!

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. You're not surprised that the GOP is as strong as they were before the crash?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:30 PM
Aug 2012

And that they had the help of our party to do it?

That certainly was a miracle...just not one I was voting for.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. They didn't need our help and we didn't give them any. They had 20 years of media in their favor.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:12 PM
Aug 2012

And they still do. Not only that, they've had more than half a century of wealth accumulation to use on those who believed in fair play. But they don't play fair, and don't have to since they control the message. On the Democratic Party and Obama bashing, we'll just have to part ways. See you later, I don't do that.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

CBHagman

(16,986 posts)
6. I'm glad to see someone addressing the GOP's unjustified faith in the market.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:36 PM
Aug 2012

Given the rather fawning attention Ryan has received from the media, it's encouraging to see some of that has abated and the debunking is now taking place in earnest.

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