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Thrill

(19,178 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:54 PM Aug 2012

New PPP Poll Akin still leading

Unreal

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After all that Akin STILL leads McCaskill, 44-43. Little difference from our last poll which was Akin 45-44

75% of Missouri voters think Akin's comments were inappropriate, but they're still voting along party lines

Only 6% of Republican women say they're going to vote for McCaskill

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New PPP Poll Akin still leading (Original Post) Thrill Aug 2012 OP
They're just trying to keep him in the race FBaggins Aug 2012 #1
Good. Let him stay in. It will show that he IS the Republican Party. RBInMaine Aug 2012 #2
My guess is, word has not yet gotten around. speedoo Aug 2012 #3
Not everyone has heard the news yet - it's too soon. The polls will be different next week. n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #4
Exactly davidpdx Aug 2012 #14
This has yet to set in. Once it does the polls will shift. Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #5
What a dilemma this raises for the Republicans Marsala Aug 2012 #6
Rove (Crossroads GPS) has already pulled advertising out... lastlib Aug 2012 #16
I expect they'll be back after this blows over if he stays in pstokely Aug 2012 #23
Some advertisers supposedly went back to Rush after the Fluke fiasco faded from public awareness. Mike Daniels Aug 2012 #33
Hypocritical TroyD Aug 2012 #34
You're not going to get squat from a flash poll. Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #7
I've said it before and I'll say it again... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #8
Sadly, many people who vote Republican vote against their own interests. GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #11
I know...but rape? Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #20
It's all about how sacred the fertilized egg is, and how we should punish the rapist and not the GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #28
I hear what you're saying... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #36
Women, minorities, union members, government employees ... Cosmocat Aug 2012 #21
That is a tie, not a real lead. It's within the margin of error. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #9
It's not about turning off Repub voters. Write them off. It's about the independent and Democratic GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #10
So true. Here's to hoping this gets some reasonable people out to the polls! MatthewStLouis Aug 2012 #25
"Give that man a cigar!" earthside Aug 2012 #27
People Robbins Aug 2012 #12
PPP has posted - here's a link to their article and a link to the full PPP results Tx4obama Aug 2012 #13
The comment is so jaw droppingly offensive fujiyama Aug 2012 #15
There are some REAAALLLLYYYY stupid people in this country. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #17
Only 24 hours TroyD Aug 2012 #18
It was a flash poll, taken over 3 hours. speedoo Aug 2012 #19
look at the polls demos--it was a VERY RED SAMPLE WI_DEM Aug 2012 #22
I still think alot of democrats have dropped their land lines and are underpolled. /nt MatthewStLouis Aug 2012 #24
That is why I do not have too much hope for McCaskill. racism trumps rape I guess when you are a still_one Aug 2012 #26
One step at a time TroyD Aug 2012 #29
ok /nt still_one Aug 2012 #31
After Rape Comment Akin Still Leads McCaskill In Brand New Missouri Poll Ian David Aug 2012 #30
I don't think it will last TroyD Aug 2012 #32
Imporant points about this poll... brooklynite Aug 2012 #35
Give it time telecat Aug 2012 #37

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. Exactly
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:41 PM
Aug 2012

The next poll will be a better gauge of where the race is at if Akin stays in. With the money drying up, I'd think his poll numbers will go south very very quickly.

I guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow and see what he does.

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
6. What a dilemma this raises for the Republicans
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:01 PM
Aug 2012

If Akin now stays in, do they dare support him? Do they dare NOT support him? What will Rove do?

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
16. Rove (Crossroads GPS) has already pulled advertising out...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:32 AM
Aug 2012

...ditto RSCC. At least $$10million in GOP advertising evaporated today. That's HUGE in a Missouri race!

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
33. Some advertisers supposedly went back to Rush after the Fluke fiasco faded from public awareness.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:49 AM
Aug 2012

I would anticipate that if it looks like Akin can stay competitive even after this mess that the money will flow to him somehow.

At this point, what with the Republican platform basically supporting Akin and Ryan's stand on a full abortion ban the R's may as well just dig in and let the chips fall where they may.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
34. Hypocritical
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

And in a sense you've got to see it from Akin's point of view - why should he be raked over the coals when they're all basically saying the same thing? Why should he be thrown under the bus and not Paul Ryan and some of the others?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
8. I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:14 PM
Aug 2012

If you're a woman and you vote Republican, you're a fucking moron.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
20. I know...but rape?
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:09 AM
Aug 2012

This douchebag is saying that if a woman gets pregnant, then it wasn't really rape. That she wanted it.

It's one thing to stupidly vote against your economic interests, but do these women have such low self-esteen that they can't find it in themselves to be offended by this crap?

GreenPartyVoter

(72,378 posts)
28. It's all about how sacred the fertilized egg is, and how we should punish the rapist and not the
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:55 AM
Aug 2012

child. You will note the well-being of the women does not enter into that equation.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
36. I hear what you're saying...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:07 PM
Aug 2012

But I still can't fathom it.

If somebody said to me (as a guy) that god says that I should receive a swift kick in the nuts, my response would be, "God? What God? Never heard of him."

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
21. Women, minorities, union members, government employees ...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:11 AM
Aug 2012

the republican party demagogues and actively works against the best interests of every demographic in the country.

Somehow, it wins more elections than it loses.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,378 posts)
10. It's not about turning off Repub voters. Write them off. It's about the independent and Democratic
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:21 PM
Aug 2012

voters who, for whatever reason, weren't going to vote this time around. Those are the people who need to hear this story in the hopes of garnering some more votes for McCaskill.

MatthewStLouis

(904 posts)
25. So true. Here's to hoping this gets some reasonable people out to the polls!
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:36 AM
Aug 2012

I'll bet his comments won't affect many right wing voters (they were going to get out and vote for him anyway).

earthside

(6,960 posts)
27. "Give that man a cigar!"
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:02 AM
Aug 2012

This is not a persuasion election.

This is a 'base turnout' election.

And for the Repuglicans ... dissuading marginal Democrats and independents from voting at all.

What do people think the four years of vilification of Barack Obama has been about? The Repuglican-Tea Party base is so ossified in their hate of Obama that nothing will make them change their minds. That mentality extends all the way down the ballot for them.

I am not happy to say it, but I think Repuglican voters are so irrational that this Akin numbskull is still going to be favored in this contest. As someone else posted, just wait as this blows over, the big Repuglican money will slowly, but surely, be back for this guy's campaign.

Now, perhaps this controversy will motivate enough marginal Democrats and independents to get out and vote, thus tilting this to McCaskill. It could be a close election and McCaskill is a determined campaigner ... but she still has her work cut out for her.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
12. People
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:26 PM
Aug 2012

This Is dead head.1 point Is basiclly tied.

This race Isn't over by a longshot.McCaskill can win.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
15. The comment is so jaw droppingly offensive
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:18 AM
Aug 2012

I cannot understand how any civilized person can vote for someone making such repulsive comments - especially any woman. But this is MO, the birth state of Rush Limbaugh so the state seems to produce some real winners!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
18. Only 24 hours
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:41 AM
Aug 2012

They took the poll only 24 hours after the scandal. That's not enough time for it to filter down.

Hopefully this poll will encourage Akin to stay in!

Then we can pull the rug out . . .

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
19. It was a flash poll, taken over 3 hours.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:58 AM
Aug 2012

The news of Akin's comment had just come out, people did not have time to reflect on his stupidity yet.

At least that is my hope.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
22. look at the polls demos--it was a VERY RED SAMPLE
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:24 AM
Aug 2012

9:30 PM PT: As some commenters have pointed out, the poll's sample was pretty red: 39% of respondents identified as Republicans, while only 30% are Dems and 32% independents. PPP's May poll was 35 D, 33 R, 33 I. According to the 2010 exit polls (obviously a high-water mark for Republicans), it was 37 R, 34 D, 28 I.

still_one

(92,242 posts)
26. That is why I do not have too much hope for McCaskill. racism trumps rape I guess when you are a
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:41 AM
Aug 2012

republican, though in all fairness, sometimes it takes a few days before polls fully factor in an event

If anyone showed Rachael Maddow's show yesterday, atkins view is not all that rare in repuke circles, and that disturbs the heck out of me that the election is still this close


TroyD

(4,551 posts)
29. One step at a time
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:03 AM
Aug 2012

Let's find out if Akin is staying in first, then we can worry about whether McCaskill will win.

I think if Akin stays in that McCaskill can win.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
30. After Rape Comment Akin Still Leads McCaskill In Brand New Missouri Poll
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:06 AM
Aug 2012

After Rape Comment Akin Still Leads McCaskill In Brand New Missouri Poll
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11381726

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
32. I don't think it will last
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:13 AM
Aug 2012

I think that McCaskill will overtake him in the days and weeks ahead if he stays in.

We've got just under 7 hours before the 5:00 pm deadline!

It's going to be nerve-wracking waiting to find out!

brooklynite

(94,604 posts)
35. Imporant points about this poll...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:16 PM
Aug 2012

1) the results show the race is essentially tied

2) this is a loss of 8 points since the last [n]non-PPP poll. (PPP hasn't polled any time recently).

 

telecat

(14 posts)
37. Give it time
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:09 PM
Aug 2012

Let the ads begin in MO about rape, and his numbers will go down - except on Rasmussen of course.

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