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Marzupialis

(398 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:25 PM Aug 2012

Bullshit: Romney ahead in Michigan poll of "most likely voters"

Look at this new poll. http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/link/581519/presidential-and-senate-poll-for-the-general-election

In Realclearpolitics it's listed as likely voter, but the sample is "most likely voters".
In other words, this Fox commissioned poll is a fraud. Excerpt:

"The population surveyed consisted of a sample of traditional Michigan high participation
registered voters and voters that fit Michigan General Election voting patterns. The majority
of these voters have participated in a significant majority of the available primary and general
election and odd year municipal and county elections in Michigan since their registration.
Additionally, our call file does allow for random moderate and low participation voters to be
included in the sample. Our call file was randomized to allow for the maximum range of
participation and randomization"

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/link/581519/presidential-and-senate-poll-for-the-general-election

In fact, a poll we discussed here (Mitchell Research) conducted AFTER this August 13th poll has Obama up by 5%.

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Bullshit: Romney ahead in Michigan poll of "most likely voters" (Original Post) Marzupialis Aug 2012 OP
can't wait til this election is over mim89 Aug 2012 #1
Worthless poll, unless you want manufactured "evidence" that Ryan helps Romney. speedoo Aug 2012 #2
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #3
The US auto industry is larger then Detriot, dope. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #4
Sorry Paulie Aug 2012 #5
Awe ... its so much fun to mock the crazies. I miss him already. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #6
Feel free to continue mocking. Paulie Aug 2012 #7
Did he pay for his pizza? chknltl Aug 2012 #8
Nate Silver already assigned that firm a house effect of R+11(!) Marsala Aug 2012 #9
never heard of this pollster. WI_DEM Aug 2012 #10
Problems with the poll TroyD Aug 2012 #11

mim89

(102 posts)
1. can't wait til this election is over
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:30 PM
Aug 2012

I really don't remember feeling this way in 2008, but this time around, I just can't wait to get this over with lol.

speedoo

(11,229 posts)
2. Worthless poll, unless you want manufactured "evidence" that Ryan helps Romney.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:46 PM
Aug 2012

Just read the questions.. Blatant bias.

Response to Marzupialis (Original post)

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. The US auto industry is larger then Detriot, dope.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
Aug 2012

And yes ... putting money in off-shore accounts creates jobs right here in America ... everyone knows that!!!

I hope they let you stay a little longer ... you are hilarious.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
8. Did he pay for his pizza?
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:24 PM
Aug 2012

Doncha just hate it when they come here, spill a bunch of fox noise all over the place then run out the door with a stolen pizza? Now how is that fair?!!!1

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
9. Nate Silver already assigned that firm a house effect of R+11(!)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:29 PM
Aug 2012

So this actually shows Obama is up by 6... if the poll is worth anything at all.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. Problems with the poll
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 2012

I'm going to discount the MICHIGAN poll for 2 reasons, even though it's supposedly by a Democratic-leaning firm:

1. All other recent Michigan polling has shown Obama ahead, including from Republican-leaning pollsters

2. This pollster (Baydoun/Foster) even has Hoekstra (R) ahead of Stabenow (D) in the Senate race despite the fact that no other pollster all year has shown him ahead of her:

Observe at the following link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/mi/michigan_senate_hoekstra_vs_stabenow-1817.html

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