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Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:00 AM Aug 2012

Is it possible for Obama to win traditionally "red states"?

I've been an Arkansas Democrat my entire adult life. I'm seeing something I'm not accustomed to. Perhaps it's the increase in online participation in media articles due to Facebook, but what I seem to be seeing a large division in opinions on questions such as "Who would you vote for if the election were held today?", and other questions pertaining to current policy. Romney was in town tonight raising money, but not talking to citizens outside the high dollar fund raiser.

Are some of the other red state Democrats seeing this unusual shift in the typical Republican dominance of the conversation?

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Is it possible for Obama to win traditionally "red states"? (Original Post) Cannikin Aug 2012 OP
Depends. ellisonz Aug 2012 #1
Sadly... Cannikin Aug 2012 #2
You make a good point about being vocal. ellisonz Aug 2012 #9
Arizona just might go blue for President thelordofhell Aug 2012 #3
Traditional Red states that could turn blue in the near future aaaaaa5a Aug 2012 #4
I have to agree.... physioex Aug 2012 #5
Florida has always been battleground davidn3600 Aug 2012 #7
Good list davidpdx Aug 2012 #8
Ohio ?!?! John Frum Aug 2012 #11
no...... madrchsod Aug 2012 #6
He won Indiana last time--he won't this time. Arkansas, I'm afraid, is not likely, however WI_DEM Aug 2012 #10
Not with a weak recovery (that those states believe is Obama's Great Depression) CabCurious Aug 2012 #12

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
1. Depends.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:08 AM
Aug 2012

I unfortunately don't see Arkansas as being in the mix this time. But states like North Carolina, Virginia, Missouri, and Indiana which were once solidly Republican are surely in play for the President.

Cannikin

(8,359 posts)
2. Sadly...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:17 AM
Aug 2012

Even I have to admit, Romney would have to burn a photo of Jesus saving an unborn child before Obama would win Arkansas, but it's encouraging to see the (Democratic) people of Arkansas speaking up when we're usually a VERY minority voice in the state, when we're accustomed to being shouted down by the vocal majority.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
9. You make a good point about being vocal.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:35 AM
Aug 2012

If we are silent about what they want to do to this country, we will lose. Frankly, we need to stop being polite about it, because they just smile like a child caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

Smile and lie, smile and lie.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
3. Arizona just might go blue for President
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:23 AM
Aug 2012

Lots of old people just getting wind of having to eat their cats because of Paul Ryan (and yes I mean cats instead of cat food).

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
4. Traditional Red states that could turn blue in the near future
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:33 AM
Aug 2012


Texas
Arizona


Traditional Red States that have flipped blue in the last 4 years. And will become increasingly blue in the near future

Virginia
Colorado
Nevada


Traditional Red States that are now battleground states

Florida
North Carolina
Ohio
Iowa
New Hampshire


Red States that are "fools gold" for us.

Missouri
Georgia


Blue States that have flipped red

West Virginia -Its hard to believe Dukakis carried WV in 1988



Blue States that could become battleground states

Wisconsin






The electoral college has really moved into our favor in the last 20 years. Lets hope it continues.




physioex

(6,890 posts)
5. I have to agree....
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:39 AM
Aug 2012

There are many changes in demographics on the horizon, and I think it will be to our advantage. Arkansas maybe another decade or two away....

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. Florida has always been battleground
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:28 AM
Aug 2012

It's no different than it was in 2000. It's divided right down the middle.

Yeah it went for Obama in 2008. But then it turned around and voted Rick Scott, Marco Rubio, and the GOP have a veto-proof majority in the legislature. Now in 2012, god only knows what it's going to do.

Florida is a screwy state.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Good list
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:33 AM
Aug 2012

However Nevada has flipped back and forth in the last 20 years with Clinton winning in 1992 & 1996, Bush winning it in 2000 & 2004 and Obama taking it in 2008. The pattern here seems like Obama will take it again in 2012. I don't think you can put Nevada in to one column or another. Maybe 2016 will finally settle the score. Who knows....

I think the expansion of the map in 2008 hurt the Republicans to the point they are now stretched thin to come up with 270. They need several of the states back which were flipped and to try to flip a blue state or two.

Barring another surprise (like North Carolina in 2008) it is hard to see where we could flip another state.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
10. He won Indiana last time--he won't this time. Arkansas, I'm afraid, is not likely, however
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:13 AM
Aug 2012

in ten years I can see Dems begin to be competitive in presidential elections in Texas.

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