2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS/NYT/Quinnipiac: Obama+6 in OHIO, Obama+3 in FLORIDA, Obama+2 in WISCONSIN
Thursday, August 23
CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac
August 15-21, 2012
President Obama maintains his lead in the battleground of Ohio, but now faces close races inFlorida and Wisconsin. Voters in all three states have net favorable ratings of CongressmanPaul Ryan, but Ryans Medicare plan is opposed by majorities of voters. The President isviewed as better at handling Medicare than Romney in all three states.
Wisconsin:
The race in Wisconsin has tightened. Ryans selection to the ticket is viewed as anet positive here, especially among Republicans. President Obamas edge is now just twopoints (within the polls margin of error). Wisconsin voters say Romney would be better on theeconomy.
Florida:
The President maintains a small lead here, but the race has narrowed slightly (withinthe margin of error). Voters say the President would do a better job on Medicare and healthcare. Still, Romney holds a double-digit lead among seniors his largest in these three states and has a slight edge on handling the economy.
Ohio:
The President continues to lead, thanks to a 13-point advantage among women andbacking from young voters, while Romney wins the support of independents and has an 8-pointlead among seniors. In Ohio, Mr. Obama and Romney are even on the economy, but thePresident has the advantage on Medicare and taxes, while Romney leads on the budget deficit.
More here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/103619714/Quinn-FL-OH-WI-8-23?secret_password=hemgtlli0hz43auizbq
TroyD
(4,551 posts)----
OHIO [Obama +6]
Obama - 50
Romney - 44
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FLORIDA [Obama +3]
Obama - 49
Romney - 46
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WISCONSIN [Obama +2]
Obama - 49
Romney - 47
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Ashleyshubby
(81 posts)They'll focus on the 2% lead in Wisconsin because they want a close race.
They will also not criticize the poll showing Romney with a 14% lead in FL, which turned out to be a joke as we can see.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)I bet most of them are white and racist
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)and as long as those greedy seniors have their Medicare then its fine and screw the rest of us who won't have it if these bastards win.
cabot
(724 posts)Ugh. Think beyond yourself, you know?
fugop
(1,828 posts)I expect seniors to be Republican, but ut still kills me to see again and again how they can't see how ridiculous it is to vote GOP. I'm in my late 40s and just hope when my generation is the senior demographic, we change that trend. I don't know that it will happen, but I sure hope so.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)...but, I have little faith in the American voter in general!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)"now faces close races in Florida..."
Since when was Florida not supposed to be close? They ran a poll that showed Obama winning in three states, including two absolutely crucial swing states (Florida and Ohio). The poll shows Obama with a commanding lead in Ohio, which is getting pretty close to out of reach. But this is a very bad poll for Obama!?!
Wisconsin will stabilize. Mitt's got major problems in Virginia, for chrissakes, which has three more electoral votes than Wisconsin.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)However, Virgil Goode may help Obama in the end. He's on the ballot running as a Teabagger Third Party candidate.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Is Goode expected to take votes away from Romney?
Is he officially on the ballot for November now?
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)from Romney.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)FLORIDA - Nelson +9
Nelson (D) - 50
Mack (R) - 41
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OHIO - Brown +7
Brown (D) - 48
Mandel (R) - 41
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WISCONSIN - Thompson +6
Thompson (R) - 50
Baldwin (D) - 44
I have bad feeling Obama could win Wisconsin but Thompson may take Kohl's senate seat to make up fro McCaskill likely winning now
against Akin.Thompson may be old timer but he will vote like a tea party republican.There are no moderates In Republican party
In washington.There are moderate Republican voters out there but none who are In House or senate.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)all I can say is if younger voters don't get out and actually vote we are screwed.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Do younger Republicans care about others? Do older Democrats not care about others? Do people who care about others stop doing so at a certain age, and if so, what age is that?
Florida is a right wing, racist, homophobic State. It is obvious to anyone that it is not just older voters electing their Senators and Governors. It is Republicans of all ages doing so.
To say 'seniors' as a group is fairly naff as well as being inaccurate to the point of hindering the needed work.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Not familiar with this pollster, but just noticed that Obama has a +3 lead by a pollster called 'Ohio Poll/Univ of Cin.'
It only shows a +1 lead for Sherrod Brown though, which is at odds with most other polling giving him larger leads. Still, 2 polls showing Obama ahead in OHIO in the same day is not bad.
Obama - 49
Romney - 46
http://www.ipr.uc.edu/documents/op082312.pdf
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)without either stealing or buying this election.
center rising
(971 posts)That Thurston and the Granny Killer are bad for them!!
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)is reporting this morning that Obama is leading only in Ohio, which is irritating, as it contradicts all the other sources.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)This is actually a good polling day for Obama after what was a good polling day for Romney yesterday.
Obama has been ahead in almost every state and national poll today.
Romney even dropped 2 points in Rasmussen from +2 down to a TIE.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)now the headline says Obama is still leading in the other states, just not by as much.
Exactly why I don't use them as a news source, it just caught my eye over coffee.
mvd
(65,173 posts)the Repuke convention bump should be small. Might even help us if independents watching see how crazy they are.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)seniors on what Ryan and Mittens want to do with Medicare
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)In 2008, Barack Obama won pickups in Ohio and Florida by 4.59 and 2.81 percentage points. He carried Wisconsin by 13.91 points.
Problem with these polls is that some "results" just don't jive with reality.
If President Obama carries on Election Day those two pickups (2004 R/2008 D), he's going to end up re-elected and will have won Wisconsin by at least 10 points. (The state is bluer than those other two. And don't tell me anything supposedly special about Paul Ryan. Massachusetts isn't swallowing that garbage with Mitt Romney.)
If that's happening, a 2012 re-election victory would be similar to 2008 (probably a bit better). Of course this contradicts the news media who are wanting a tight race. And the corrupt Republicans on the Supreme Court have been quite a help with all that "closeness."