Very liberal voters in Iowa prefer Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders (48% to 30%)

[Cali_Democrat]

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Clinton is really dominating with several key groups in Iowa. Among seniors she's up 74/13 and with women she's up 61/21. She leads across the board with the various constituencies we track but it is tighter with younger voters (43/40), men (51/31), and voters who identify themselves as 'very liberal' (48/30).

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/11/cruz-rising-in-iowa-clinton-back-out-to-dominant-lead.html

[SunSeeker]

1. Yes indeed. DU is not representative of the Democratic Party.

It's not even representative of liberal Democrats.

[workinclasszero]

5. Is it any wonder really?

Bernie is proud of the fact that he is not now or ever been a liberal democrat!

[Cali_Democrat]

13. I very much enjoy popping the DU bubble

[NurseJackie]

25. *! POP !*

[MADem]

55. It never has been. You are entirely right about that.

The conversation here is great, but as a group we don't often pick winners.

We were much more united and of a single purpose when raging against the Bush machine. Now the joint is rather Balkanized. Can't wait for the primaries to be over.

[Human101948]

2. Very liberal in Iowa is a bit right of Joe McCarthy...

What a joke!

[Cha]

6. No, what you say isn't true. The joke isn't the people in Iowa who support Hillary.

[workinclasszero]

7. OK state of Iowa....under the Bernie bus!

You people are not worthy!

[Human101948]

8. Iowa has what? Half an electoral vote?

Why this half assed state is allowed to dominate the primary process is a mystery.

[SunSeeker]

14. You should tell Bernie to say that!

[Human101948]

34. I am not being a Bernie partisan...

Just puzzled by the obeisance paid to a tiny state that has more pigs than people.

[RandySF]

33. Go look at the bigger states

Hillary is leading there, too.

[JI7]

23. bs. if that was the case lieberman webb etc would have

Done better

Your view of iowa reminds me of candy Crowley thinking green tea and Arugula was something people in Iowa were unfamiliar with.

Iowa dems tend to be liberal and active in politics .

[RandySF]

29. Oh dear lord

You know nothing about Iowa

[Human101948]

38. Chuck Grassley, Joni Ernst, Steve King, Rod Blum, David Young

What were you saying?

[RandySF]

39. DEMOCRATS

Tom Harkin, The Culvers. Democrats in Iowa are liberal.

[JaneyVee]

37. Iowa had gay marriage for years.

[LonePirate]

3. That is certainly an interesting nugget from that poll.

[Cha]

4. Mahalo Cali.. we'll take it!

[Armstead]

9. Very liberal on what?

Key issues of who controls Wealth and Power?

[tk2kewl]

10. voters who identify themselves as 'very liberal'

makes them feel good.

[brooklynite]

11. But those are "conservative" very-liberal Democrats.

The "real" very-liberal Democrats will be supporting Bernie: all 75 million of them.

At least, that's the number I've been given from folks here.

[tk2kewl]

12. voters who identify themselves as 'very liberal'

doesn't actually make it so

[brooklynite]

15. Is there an exam? Do you have to fill out an application form?

[tk2kewl]

22. nope...

but in my book you can't be pro-war, pro-surveillance, pro-bank, pro-death penalty, pro-privatization, etc, etc...

anyone can call themselves anything they like, doesn't make it so... see pro-life for example.

[Historic NY]

41. You know people could say that about FDR too....

[Recursion]

48. Here's Pete Seeger saying it, in a catchy song

[NurseJackie]

24. Ahhh... that must be it.

People were lying to the pollsters. Or, if they prefer Hillary, then they CAN'T be as liberal as they claim to be.

[tk2kewl]

26. nope, not lying, just kidding themselves or not clear on what the word means.

see reply #22 http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=758673

[NurseJackie]

36. No true Scotsman, eh?

[Armstead]

18. Naw a lot peope who consider themselves liberal will vote for Clinton

But I will continue to strongly disagree with them that she would be anything but another step in the long slide to the right in the core issues that matter.

[Bubzer]

16. PPP is nto the most reliable of sources. Any other polls mirroring this?

[Cali_Democrat]

19. PPP was the most accurate pollster during the last Presidential election cycle

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/266615-study-finds-ppp-kos-the-most-accurate-pollsters-in-2012

[workinclasszero]

28. Oh SNAP!

[Bubzer]

43. Interesting. I must have come across a bad article then. So no other supporting polls then?

[Cali_Democrat]

44. The last 3 Iowa polls:

Clinton +32
Clinton +41
Clinton +38

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-3195.html#polls

[OKNancy]

17. Don't blast Iowa liberals. There are a lot there.

I love that state because before marriage equality, Oklahomans would drive to Iowa to get married... one of the first states to have marriage equality.

[Armstead]

20. I won't.....Just any liberals who believe more of the same of the last 35 years....

will make any difference in core issues of who controls this nation and for whose benefit.

[Thinkingabout]

54. Well, they see a congressional member doing the same thing for twenty five years, guess that

Is saying for Sanders. Oh, almost forgot, he has never changed his mind either

[NurseJackie]

21. This pleases me very much …

… very very, very-very, very-very much!

I always suspected that the population of the users at this website was NOT representative of what Democrats are like in the real world.

The more I see what's happening in the REAL WORLD, the better I feel about Hillary winning the nomination AND the White House.

If you spend too much time here, it's easy to start believing that the things people write are real and that a majority of people feel the same way.

This is wonderful news, and I'm really looking forward to the poll results that will be released tomorrow.

[workinclasszero]

32. This is a Bernie bubble

In no way does the Bernie Underground represent reality

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. It's like they created this parallel universe where they can impose their will.

EOM

[riversedge]

27. Seems those voting their conscious know a good thing when they see it.

[Starry Messenger]

30. Wow, go seniors too!

[Blanks]

31. One of things we should have learned in the past 7 years...

Is that it doesn't matter what the candidate for president says he's gonna do, the president's agenda is severely limited by what's going on in the legislative branch.

Hillary is realistic. She's seen the kind of choices the president has to make and I haven't seen her promise to pass a bunch of legislation that won't reach the president's desk.

[bunnies]

35. Why in the world would polling companies exclude cell phone users?

Most of the people I know havent had landlines for years.

[RandySF]

40. They dont

[bunnies]

50. This poll did.

Landlines and internet only.

[Recursion]

49. They don't, and haven't for years. They mention that in the full results. (nt)

[bunnies]

51. Full results say landlines and internet.

[Recursion]

52. Right. People without landlines responded over the Internet (nt)

[MisterP]

42. it's been pretty established that "most liberal" in polls just indicates "most Democratic" in the

sense of hewing tightest to the duopoly

but I'm sure that you can prove that Clinton's record is more liberal than Sanders', correct? we're all itching to know

[DCBob]

45. Its funny the DU socialists dont get it!

[Bread and Circus]

47. Wait, white people in a small rural state matter again?

[DCBob]

56. It matters cuz its a must win state for Bernie...

if he is going to have any chance at all of winning.

[Cha]

57. Iowa matters.

[Thinkingabout]

53. Good news to know the seniors are polling for Hillary, they vote.