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Hillary Distances Herself From Obama -- Talks Of Rebuilding Ties With Netanyahu (Original Post) Report1212 Nov 2015 OP
I think Netanyahu is on the verge of being a war criminal if he is not already. hollysmom Nov 2015 #1
indeed. bombing women & children in UN shelters repeatedly. Barbaric think Nov 2015 #29
Well damn. Autumn Nov 2015 #2
This is why . . . Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #3
Seriously, if ever there was a doubt Hillary should never be President, this seals it. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #12
smh Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #4
Predictable MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #5
This is disappointing. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #6
Anyone care to try to defend this? riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #7
<crickets> InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #14
What? Hillary cozying up to a war criminal? Who would think it? starroute Nov 2015 #25
Yup. Sick. Still no response from any HRC supporter... nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #26
Do you realize that Pres Obama leftynyc Nov 2015 #31
You didn't read her op-ed did you? riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #36
I read every word leftynyc Nov 2015 #40
Im not a Sanders supporter and you dont annoy me riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #41
Who said it was? leftynyc Nov 2015 #42
Netanyahu is bad news Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #8
ok, hillary supporters please explain restorefreedom Nov 2015 #9
She's defending an ally leftynyc Nov 2015 #32
her "ally" is a crazy warmonger who can't be trusted restorefreedom Nov 2015 #33
She's not moving left on Israel leftynyc Nov 2015 #34
the current leader is a nutjob restorefreedom Nov 2015 #35
Hillary distanced herself from me long ago poured cement on it with the Death Penalty, Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #10
Oh and get this. Netanyahu will be speaking at the pro-Hillary Center for American Progress Catherina Nov 2015 #11
What does Bernie say about Bibi? I bet there is not daylight between HC and BS on this. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #13
Bernie Sanders was the first Senator to refuse to go to Netanyahu's Congressional appearance karynnj Nov 2015 #15
Bernie Sanders: ‘I’m not a great fan’ of Benjamin Netanyahu frylock Nov 2015 #16
The headline may imply that Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #17
No she will be worse Robbins Nov 2015 #18
What happened to building on his platform? Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #19
What, are you a total political neophyte?! jeff47 Nov 2015 #20
I'm not sure we are supposed to remember that, notice the absence of those Autumn Nov 2015 #22
Just a few days ago, it was the definitive sign of loyalty. Baitball Blogger Nov 2015 #24
The President wasn't perfect but... Stellar Nov 2015 #37
He did somethings that some Democrats didn't like but he did some good things too. It evened out. Autumn Nov 2015 #38
OK, because I didn't care for something's that he did either.nt Stellar Nov 2015 #39
Wow, even after his Holocaust comments? jfern Nov 2015 #21
Five Pillars kenn3d Nov 2015 #23
Oh, ick. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #27
What.The.Hell?!? The guy is a war criminal. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #28
kick jfern Nov 2015 #30
kick jfern Nov 2015 #44
Talk about irony: bunnies Nov 2015 #43

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
3. This is why . . .
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:45 PM
Nov 2015

. . . Hillary will never get in to the White House, except as a guest.

Warmongering is so tacky, not even my father would vote for her now.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
12. Seriously, if ever there was a doubt Hillary should never be President, this seals it.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:46 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
7. Anyone care to try to defend this?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:56 PM
Nov 2015

Anyone?



Netanyahu is a war criminal. Period. One of the best things Obama has done is shun him. HRC is pledging to have Netanyahu come visit in the first 30 days!!!



 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
31. Do you realize that Pres Obama
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:26 AM
Nov 2015

is meeting with Bibi next week? Both Bibi and the far left have failed in their attempts to make Israel a partisan issue and once again, I'm hoping DU will finally realize they represent a very tiny minority of Americans on this issue. Or are all those polls showing overwhelming support for Israel skewed also?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
36. You didn't read her op-ed did you?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:05 AM
Nov 2015

Thats ok. I would be trying to not look at it either if she were who I was supporting

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. I read every word
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:36 AM
Nov 2015

You Sanders supporters are doing a banner job of alienating all the Clinton supporters on this board and I find it very amusing that you think Sanders will be any different on this issue. But like the Pro-P people haven't run me off this board, neither will the Sanders people. I'll stay just to annoy you.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
41. Im not a Sanders supporter and you dont annoy me
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:42 AM
Nov 2015


I will do everything I can to enhance our strategic partnership and strengthen America’s security commitment to Israel, ensuring that it always has the qualitative military edge to defend itself. That includes immediately dispatching a delegation of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to meet with senior Israeli commanders. I would also invite the Israeli prime minister to the White House in my first month in office. 

The dangers facing both our nations in the Middle East require bold and united responses. We must remain committed to preventing Iran from ever acquiring a nuclear weapon, and to vigorously enforcing the new nuclear agreement. I would move to step up our partnership to confront Iran and its proxies across the region, and make sure dangerous Russian and Iranian weapons don’t end up in Hezbollah’s hands or threaten Israel. I also will combat growing efforts to isolate Israel internationally and to undermine its future as a Jewish state, including the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. I’ve spoken out against BDS in the United States and at the U.N., and will continue to do so.


Thats straight out war mongering and nothing like how Obama has handled Netanyahu
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
42. Who said it was?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:17 AM
Nov 2015

All I pointed out was that Sanders and Clinton are likely nearly identical on the issue of Israel. The bad relationship between Pres Obama and PM Netanyahu is open knowledge.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
8. Netanyahu is bad news
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:56 PM
Nov 2015

The Israeli people should elect somebody better. Hillary is revealing her hidden hawk feathers.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
9. ok, hillary supporters please explain
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

her cozying up to a crazy war monger if she has no war intentions

anyone?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
32. She's defending an ally
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:28 AM
Nov 2015

no matter who their leader (elected with 22% of the vote) is. That's what leadership looks like. It also is what most Americans want despite what DU has to say on the matter.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
33. her "ally" is a crazy warmonger who can't be trusted
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:04 AM
Nov 2015

she should be supporting a two state solution. if she listens to netanyahu, the us will be fighting israels wars before long.


why hillary clinton is moving left on every issue except israel:

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.665148

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
34. She's not moving left on Israel
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:33 AM
Nov 2015

because the strong majority of Americans support Israel. I know that's not a popular stance on DU but that's the reality. That's she's able to separate their current leader from the country and its people is very much to her credit.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
35. the current leader is a nutjob
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:36 AM
Nov 2015

we will have to see whether she separates the leader from the people. this combined with her hawk positions such as nf zone in syria are making many people nervous.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
10. Hillary distanced herself from me long ago poured cement on it with the Death Penalty,
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

Now this. All that money supporting Hillary is doing the talking.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
11. Oh and get this. Netanyahu will be speaking at the pro-Hillary Center for American Progress
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:13 PM
Nov 2015
Why Is the Center for American Progress Hosting Benjamin Netanyahu?
The Israeli prime minister has spent the last few years trying to sabotage the Obama administration’s foreign policy. So what’s with the invite?

By Ali Gharib
October 28, 2015

When Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu comes to town next month, he’ll meet with President Obama at the White House for the first time since the right-wing Israeli led a failed campaign to block the liberal Democrat’s nuclear deal with Iran. During the course of his long, no-holds-barred fight against diplomacy with Iran, Netanyahu took a stand with congressional Republicans against the White House, attracting minimal Democratic support for his position against Obama’s signal foreign policy achievement. Three years ago, Netanyahu all but endorsed Obama’s opponent in the presidential race, Mitt Romney. And Netanyahu’s own behavior at home—most notably the modus operandi of his successful reelection bid this year, which included anti-Arab bigotry and a vow to block a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict—strained relations further.

So it was altogether fitting that Netanyahu, during his swing through Washington, would be given an award by the American Enterprise Institute, a neoconservative think tank close to the Republican Party that never strays too far from Netanyahu’s ideological home turf. Though Israel—and its most influential DC lobby group, AIPAC—has traditionally garnered bipartisan support, neoconservatives don’t give a whit about it; they have long thought Democrats, and especially today’s Democrats, were insufficiently hawkish to give Israel the kind of support it needed in the Middle East. And Netanyahu has more than made clear where his allegiances lay on the American political spectrum: with the Republicans, and especially the neoconservatives among them.

It was jarring, then, to see the news yesterday that Netanyahu would be invited to address the liberal Washington think tank Center for American Progress, a group that serves the purpose of fueling the Democratic Party with progressive policies and ideas. The Israeli embassy approached CAP, the Huffington Post reported (in an article in which I was quoted), and asked for an opportunity to speak. “He’s looking for that progressive validation,” a former CAP staffer told the news website, “and they’re basically validating a guy who race-baited during his election and has disavowed the two-state solution.”

...

Still, there is some sense in agreeing to host Netanyahu. For one, he is the head of state of a nominal ally, however noxious he can be and however much he spurns his country’s best ally. No one should be surprised that CAP seriously entertains an offer to speak from any head of state. What’s more, CAP is in a mode now of switching from being Obama’s think tank to being Hillary Clinton’s; the gravitational pull of an election is too great for the think tank’s ideological imperative (progressivism) to outweigh its unstated partisan mission. Clinton continues, in the 2016 race, to stake out at least moderately hawkish positions on the Middle East, either from a political calculation (to distinguish herself from Obama’s overstated reluctance to conflict), a campaign one (Haim Saban, the hawkish Israeli-American businessman is a longtime Clinton and Democratic donor, though notably cool on Obama), or an ideological one (she’s just a hawk). It makes a lot more sense for Clinton’s think tank to invite Netanyahu than it would for Obama’s.

.... It’s hard to see how giving a liberal platform to Netanyahu helps advance any progressive cause at all—indeed, considering his policies and positions, Netanyahu’s appearance looks poised to do the opposite: help the right wing. That’s what makes the invitation particularly perplexing.

...

http://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-the-center-for-american-progress-hosting-benjamin-netanyahu/

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
15. Bernie Sanders was the first Senator to refuse to go to Netanyahu's Congressional appearance
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:50 PM
Nov 2015

His comments then were much stronger than most Senators.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. Bernie Sanders: ‘I’m not a great fan’ of Benjamin Netanyahu
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:53 PM
Nov 2015

Earlier this week, NPR host Diane Rehm asked Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who is competing for the Democratic nomination for the presidency, whether he is an Israeli-American dual citizen (he isn’t). What was less noticed was the dialogue between Rehm and Sanders afterward, where they discussed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Sanders went on to explain his views on Netanyahu:

REHM: Tell me your feeling about whether there should be a two-state solution should Palestine be given statehood?

SANDERS: Absolutely. What you have in that part of the world is an unspeakable tragedy. And it seems like it’s never-ending and it seems like it every year gets worse and worse and more killing and more bombings and everything else. And again, Diane, if I had the magical solution to that problem I would be in the president’s office today giving it. I don’t have it. But clearly the goals are two-fold: number one the Palestinian people, in my view, deserve a state of their own, they deserve an economy of their own, they deserve economic support from the people of this country. And Israel needs to be able to live in security without terrorist attacks. Those are the goals of I think any sensible foreign policy in that region.

REHM: How do you believe President Obama’s relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu has affected our relationship with Israel?

SANDERS: Well, I gotta tell you, I am not a great fan of President Netanyahu. I did not attend the speech that he gave before the joint session of Congress. I think it was opportunistic. I think he was using it as part of his campaign for re-election. I think he was being used or did use the Republicans to go behind the President’s back. And I think in that region sadly on both sides I don’t think we have the kind of leadership that we need. And so you know I think the President is trying to do the best that he can in enormously difficult circumstances.


Sanders did not call for ending the sizable diplomatic, military and economic support that Israel receives from the United States. He didn’t match the position of his brother, Larry Sanders, who ran for Parliament in Britain under the Green Party ticket in calling for boycotts against Israel.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/bernie-sanders-im-not-a-great-fan-of-benjamin-netanyahu/

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
17. The headline may imply that
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:59 PM
Nov 2015

...she'll be closer to Netanyahu than Obama, but the article itself is consistent with Obama's policies.

She probably didn't write the headline; headlines are usually written by editors.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. What, are you a total political neophyte?!
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:18 AM
Nov 2015

You say whatever you need to say to look good to the people you are talking to right now! Consistency is for losers!

( )

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
22. I'm not sure we are supposed to remember that, notice the absence of those
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:23 AM
Nov 2015

who are excited about her continuing Obama's policies ?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
38. He did somethings that some Democrats didn't like but he did some good things too. It evened out.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:12 AM
Nov 2015

kenn3d

(486 posts)
23. Five Pillars
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:34 AM
Nov 2015

The first of which is increased sales of arms to Israel... starts @ 19:25 in this long clip of her Sep 9, 2015 Brookings address.



 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
43. Talk about irony:
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:36 PM
Nov 2015

"All parties and the international community should condemn any political and religious leader who stokes tensions with irresponsible rhetoric".*

*Unless its Bibi


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