2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Distances Herself From Obama -- Talks Of Rebuilding Ties With Netanyahu
She really isnt a 3rd Obama term
http://forward.com/opinion/national/324013/how-i-would-forge-better-ties-to-israel-and-rebuild-bond-with-benjamin-neta/#ixzz3qZwn10R9
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts). . . Hillary will never get in to the White House, except as a guest.
Warmongering is so tacky, not even my father would vote for her now.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)Rebuilding a relationship with a Nutjobyahoo who has no respect for the POTUS
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)She and gramps can join in a stanza of "A Bomb-Bomb-Bomb Iran" after that.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)The Palestinian people have suffered greatly at the hands of that man.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Anyone?
Netanyahu is a war criminal. Period. One of the best things Obama has done is shun him. HRC is pledging to have Netanyahu come visit in the first 30 days!!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:56 AM - Edit history (1)
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)is meeting with Bibi next week? Both Bibi and the far left have failed in their attempts to make Israel a partisan issue and once again, I'm hoping DU will finally realize they represent a very tiny minority of Americans on this issue. Or are all those polls showing overwhelming support for Israel skewed also?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Thats ok. I would be trying to not look at it either if she were who I was supporting
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)You Sanders supporters are doing a banner job of alienating all the Clinton supporters on this board and I find it very amusing that you think Sanders will be any different on this issue. But like the Pro-P people haven't run me off this board, neither will the Sanders people. I'll stay just to annoy you.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)The dangers facing both our nations in the Middle East require bold and united responses. We must remain committed to preventing Iran from ever acquiring a nuclear weapon, and to vigorously enforcing the new nuclear agreement. I would move to step up our partnership to confront Iran and its proxies across the region, and make sure dangerous Russian and Iranian weapons dont end up in Hezbollahs hands or threaten Israel. I also will combat growing efforts to isolate Israel internationally and to undermine its future as a Jewish state, including the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. Ive spoken out against BDS in the United States and at the U.N., and will continue to do so.
Thats straight out war mongering and nothing like how Obama has handled Netanyahu
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)All I pointed out was that Sanders and Clinton are likely nearly identical on the issue of Israel. The bad relationship between Pres Obama and PM Netanyahu is open knowledge.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)The Israeli people should elect somebody better. Hillary is revealing her hidden hawk feathers.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)her cozying up to a crazy war monger if she has no war intentions
anyone?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)no matter who their leader (elected with 22% of the vote) is. That's what leadership looks like. It also is what most Americans want despite what DU has to say on the matter.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)she should be supporting a two state solution. if she listens to netanyahu, the us will be fighting israels wars before long.
why hillary clinton is moving left on every issue except israel:
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.665148
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)because the strong majority of Americans support Israel. I know that's not a popular stance on DU but that's the reality. That's she's able to separate their current leader from the country and its people is very much to her credit.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)we will have to see whether she separates the leader from the people. this combined with her hawk positions such as nf zone in syria are making many people nervous.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)Now this. All that money supporting Hillary is doing the talking.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)The Israeli prime minister has spent the last few years trying to sabotage the Obama administrations foreign policy. So whats with the invite?
By Ali Gharib
October 28, 2015
When Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu comes to town next month, hell meet with President Obama at the White House for the first time since the right-wing Israeli led a failed campaign to block the liberal Democrats nuclear deal with Iran. During the course of his long, no-holds-barred fight against diplomacy with Iran, Netanyahu took a stand with congressional Republicans against the White House, attracting minimal Democratic support for his position against Obamas signal foreign policy achievement. Three years ago, Netanyahu all but endorsed Obamas opponent in the presidential race, Mitt Romney. And Netanyahus own behavior at homemost notably the modus operandi of his successful reelection bid this year, which included anti-Arab bigotry and a vow to block a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflictstrained relations further.
So it was altogether fitting that Netanyahu, during his swing through Washington, would be given an award by the American Enterprise Institute, a neoconservative think tank close to the Republican Party that never strays too far from Netanyahus ideological home turf. Though Israeland its most influential DC lobby group, AIPAChas traditionally garnered bipartisan support, neoconservatives dont give a whit about it; they have long thought Democrats, and especially todays Democrats, were insufficiently hawkish to give Israel the kind of support it needed in the Middle East. And Netanyahu has more than made clear where his allegiances lay on the American political spectrum: with the Republicans, and especially the neoconservatives among them.
It was jarring, then, to see the news yesterday that Netanyahu would be invited to address the liberal Washington think tank Center for American Progress, a group that serves the purpose of fueling the Democratic Party with progressive policies and ideas. The Israeli embassy approached CAP, the Huffington Post reported (in an article in which I was quoted), and asked for an opportunity to speak. Hes looking for that progressive validation, a former CAP staffer told the news website, and theyre basically validating a guy who race-baited during his election and has disavowed the two-state solution.
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Still, there is some sense in agreeing to host Netanyahu. For one, he is the head of state of a nominal ally, however noxious he can be and however much he spurns his countrys best ally. No one should be surprised that CAP seriously entertains an offer to speak from any head of state. Whats more, CAP is in a mode now of switching from being Obamas think tank to being Hillary Clintons; the gravitational pull of an election is too great for the think tanks ideological imperative (progressivism) to outweigh its unstated partisan mission. Clinton continues, in the 2016 race, to stake out at least moderately hawkish positions on the Middle East, either from a political calculation (to distinguish herself from Obamas overstated reluctance to conflict), a campaign one (Haim Saban, the hawkish Israeli-American businessman is a longtime Clinton and Democratic donor, though notably cool on Obama), or an ideological one (shes just a hawk). It makes a lot more sense for Clintons think tank to invite Netanyahu than it would for Obamas.
.... Its hard to see how giving a liberal platform to Netanyahu helps advance any progressive cause at allindeed, considering his policies and positions, Netanyahus appearance looks poised to do the opposite: help the right wing. Thats what makes the invitation particularly perplexing.
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http://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-the-center-for-american-progress-hosting-benjamin-netanyahu/
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)His comments then were much stronger than most Senators.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Earlier this week, NPR host Diane Rehm asked Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who is competing for the Democratic nomination for the presidency, whether he is an Israeli-American dual citizen (he isnt). What was less noticed was the dialogue between Rehm and Sanders afterward, where they discussed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Sanders went on to explain his views on Netanyahu:
REHM: Tell me your feeling about whether there should be a two-state solution should Palestine be given statehood?
SANDERS: Absolutely. What you have in that part of the world is an unspeakable tragedy. And it seems like its never-ending and it seems like it every year gets worse and worse and more killing and more bombings and everything else. And again, Diane, if I had the magical solution to that problem I would be in the presidents office today giving it. I dont have it. But clearly the goals are two-fold: number one the Palestinian people, in my view, deserve a state of their own, they deserve an economy of their own, they deserve economic support from the people of this country. And Israel needs to be able to live in security without terrorist attacks. Those are the goals of I think any sensible foreign policy in that region.
REHM: How do you believe President Obamas relationship with Prime Minister Netanyahu has affected our relationship with Israel?
SANDERS: Well, I gotta tell you, I am not a great fan of President Netanyahu. I did not attend the speech that he gave before the joint session of Congress. I think it was opportunistic. I think he was using it as part of his campaign for re-election. I think he was being used or did use the Republicans to go behind the Presidents back. And I think in that region sadly on both sides I dont think we have the kind of leadership that we need. And so you know I think the President is trying to do the best that he can in enormously difficult circumstances.
Sanders did not call for ending the sizable diplomatic, military and economic support that Israel receives from the United States. He didnt match the position of his brother, Larry Sanders, who ran for Parliament in Britain under the Green Party ticket in calling for boycotts against Israel.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/bernie-sanders-im-not-a-great-fan-of-benjamin-netanyahu/
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...she'll be closer to Netanyahu than Obama, but the article itself is consistent with Obama's policies.
She probably didn't write the headline; headlines are usually written by editors.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)No dem should treat Netanyahu as a friend.he's the israeli version of republican.
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)You say whatever you need to say to look good to the people you are talking to right now! Consistency is for losers!
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Autumn
(45,120 posts)who are excited about her continuing Obama's policies ?
Baitball Blogger
(46,756 posts)Now, not so much.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)I don't think he was as bad as his haters made him out to be.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)My opinion of her actually managed to sink a little lower.
kenn3d
(486 posts)The first of which is increased sales of arms to Israel... starts @ 19:25 in this long clip of her Sep 9, 2015 Brookings address.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)onecaliberal
(32,888 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)"All parties and the international community should condemn any political and religious leader who stokes tensions with irresponsible rhetoric".*
*Unless its Bibi