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Sanders: If election decided by black voters, I would lose. (Original Post) JaneyVee Nov 2015 OP
Why did he say this? yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #1
Here's the actual NPR interview, much different than the bullshit spin in the OP. bananas Nov 2015 #10
Why did you leave out the most important part of the quote? ram2008 Nov 2015 #2
Yeah seriously. This thread is laughable. Kentonio Nov 2015 #4
I read OPs like this artislife Nov 2015 #8
I quoted the EXACT headline. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #11
I did to UglyGreed Nov 2015 #12
He sure sucks, doesn't he? whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #3
I really do wish folks would start trashing Puglover Nov 2015 #13
Here's where I think he is mistaken: frazzled Nov 2015 #5
You mean that having Prof. West as a surrogate did not change everything for Sanders Gothmog Nov 2015 #6
You offend, not them. mmonk Nov 2015 #7
Technically, he is right. Nedsdag Nov 2015 #9

bananas

(27,509 posts)
10. Here's the actual NPR interview, much different than the bullshit spin in the OP.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nov 2015

The audio has much more than the text article, I don't have time to transcribe it, go listen:

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/05/454702147/bernie-sanders-still-sees-a-path-to-the-presidency

Sanders Says He's Democrats' Best Bet On Issues — And Electability
November 05, 2015 5:03 AM ET
Ron Elving

<snip>

Sanders sat down Wednesday with Steve Inskeep, host of NPR's Morning Edition, to review his own remarkably resilient campaign. Inskeep asked the self-described Democratic socialist from Vermont if he sees a path to the Democratic nomination.

"I do," Sanders said in his clipped Big Apple manner. "Look, when we began this campaign some six months ago, I would say 80 percent of American people didn't know who Bernie Sanders was or what I stood for. We have come a very, very long way."

Now, Sanders says, he still needs to acquaint millions more voters with his view of the nation, its economy and its future. But the progress so far has been phenomenal.

"We have hundreds of thousands of volunteers in the 50 states. We've received more individual contributions — some 750,000 of them — more than any other candidate in history at this point in the campaign. Averaging, I should tell you, $30 apiece."

<snip>

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
2. Why did you leave out the most important part of the quote?
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:43 PM
Nov 2015

He said if the election were decided just today just the black vote,JUST TODAY, I would lose

He's talking about today, and he's correct, HRC. Has more support among black voters NOW but a general election is completely different, also Iowa and the rest are still 3 months away.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. Here's where I think he is mistaken:
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:53 PM
Nov 2015

" Number two, I think even more importantly ... the African-American community and the Latino community are struggling in a nation in which our middle class is struggling."

He can't just fold in the issues of African Americans and Latinos into the struggling middle-class, income-inequality, "billionaire-class" scenario that seems to be his main message for everything. Not this time, not for these groups. Each has its really specific issues this time around, whether the criminal justice system and other forms of institutional racism for African Americans or racism and anti-immigrant sentiment for Latinos. Getting into the middle class is just not enough this cycle. Its not even their number one priority at this particular time, when more urgent crises are at issue and frustration at the invisibility of these issues persists in the general political conversation.

It's a kind of "What's the Matter with Kansas" argument that puts everything in economic terms, and I don't think it works for these groups (or frankly, even for lower-class white folk). I do hope he comes to understand this (and indeed, I think he has in many ways as the race has progressed), but this quote I think sends him back to square one with the African American and Latino communities. It's just too Johnny One-Note.

Gothmog

(145,488 posts)
6. You mean that having Prof. West as a surrogate did not change everything for Sanders
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:56 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders is not going to be able to expand his appeal outside a narrow range of supporters

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