The new Meme: Hillary will lose to the entire Klown Car.

[trumad]

Do you BS'ers hear yourselves?

Come on admit it! You snarf when you write your silly shit.

[leftofcool]

1. The polls show her ahead of everyone in the Klown Car

But those polls probably need to be unskewed!

[leveymg]

13. The polls show her at best just tied with Carson. She's 14 points behind among Independents

Considering that Indys are the largest voting bloc, that is reason to stop celebrating her lead in the nomination and find a candidate with lower negatives going into the General. Don't tell us we didn't say anything about the bus with no brakes, and peddle to the metal, with a hairpin curve coming up.

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. silly shit

that is a good term for it actually....

[Kelvin Mace]

3. I support Sanders

But firmly believe she will beat any of the these KKKlowns who run. So would Sanders.

[trumad]

5. How ya doing Kelvin?

[Kelvin Mace]

9. Not bad.

Trying not to get too down over the infighting, and trying to keep my own cool. Challenging these days. But hey, I survived the BBV Wars.

[trumad]

11. Yes you did..and you won!

[Kelvin Mace]

18. Yes, and very hard to believe all that

started 13 years ago.

Yeesh, I feel old sometimes.

How are things out your way?

[yodermon]

42. supporting Hillary in the general feels like supporting bev harris.

She's on the "right side" but holy fuck.

[Kelvin Mace]

43. Well, much as I don't care for her views and policies

I wouldn't compare her to BH. In my opnion, BH was pretty much on her own side, and that was whatever kept the lime light on and the money flowing.

Wonder what she is doing these days?

[onehandle]

4. 'Not Hillary' Party wishful thinking. nt

[leveymg]

6. Bernie didn't create her huge negatives among Independents, Hillary did that going back to '08.

Stop trying to blame Bernie and his supporters for something that largely predates this election cycle. Most Americans simply don't trust her and she's done herself no good in this regard by operating an unauthorized private email server in an effort to avoid FOIAs and subpoenas. She shot herself in the foot.

[jkbRN]

7. Eeeek--

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us11042015_xsq33a.pdf

You should probably check those numbers.

Clinton 46%
Trump 43%

Clinton 40%
Carson 50%

Clinton 41%
Rubio 46%

Clinton 43%
Cruz 46%

Clinton 41%
Christie 46%


You can also take a look at the recent NBC/WSJ poll in which Clinton beats repubs, but when they actually polled Bernie in the same match ups, he did better than her in every single one. Like another commenter points out, ALOT of ppl despise her--and she is seen as a very divisive person in politics, which will hurt her in GE

[trumad]

14. LOL

You believe that shit huh?

[jkbRN]

15. Lol, the facts? Yes, I do. What do you believe in?

Fantasy?

[trumad]

34. Facts?

OMG you BS'ers crack me up.

[frylock]

20. Believe what? Polling?

Do you even science, bro?

[jkbRN]

22. Excuse me?

[morningfog]

24. You believe the polls when they show HIllary over Sanders, but disbelieve

when the show Hillary losing to goppers?

[Armstead]

28. Only the polls that show Clinton beating sanders matter?

[gwheezie]

40. Well yes

We haven't nominated anyone yet.

[Reter]

45. Presidential polls are usually correct

Let's be realistic though. I think with the public informed, Clinton would easily beat Carson or Trump. Probably Cruz too, he's a good debater but too far right. I think Rubio would beat her. Mitt Romney picked the wrong year to run, because he would clean her clock.

[bowens43]

8. you greatly underestimate how much she is despised.

she will bring out the vote but it won't be democrats she brings to the polls.......

the republicans have bee preparing for this for decades...she's toast. We will have a president trump or carson or cruz and he will have a republican senate and house brimming over with tea party lunatics....thanks

[trumad]

12. Like I said...

Do you snarf when you type this silly stuff?

[jkbRN]

19. Do you have anything productive to say?

Ad hominem: is an attack on an argument made by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, rather than attacking the argument directly.

[trumad]

36. You do snarf.

Admit it.

[randys1]

27. A lot of people on DU who claim to be liberals like to constantly talk about how DESPISED

Hillary is, yet the ONLY place I ever heard that before was from rightwingers.

Fact...so, I wonder what that all means.

[Armstead]

30. A lot of my friends who are mainstream Democrats don't much like her

Unscientific obviously, but over the years that has been a fairly consistent them when she comes up in conversation. (And not from me doing any goading.)

[randys1]

32. You betcha

[Armstead]

33. You betcha. Those are the facts in my own corner of the universe. Your milage may vary.

I wouldn't have bothered to type it if it weren't true.

[randys1]

35. Probably shouldnt bother to vote at all then, if she is the nominee, right!

[Armstead]

38. Didnlt say that. Just replying to your statement that...

DU is the only place where people aren't crazy for Clinton.

They'll end up voting for her, but without much enthusiasm, just to keep the GOP out. But beyond that...

[randys1]

39. Oh, well FIRST you didnt say that part, that they will vote for her, someone said DESPISED

and I didnt say only place

and someone says despised and others chime in

If you want to help the GOP in their ONLY chance at winning, which is to convince people NOT to vote, then that is what happens when you do this stuff.


you didnt say it

this person did

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=770647


and some folks AGREED with it, thus contributing to the GOP agenda, whether they know it or not, and some folks like me fight against that crap.

[frylock]

21. Shit, she can draw all 30% of the electorate that's registered as Dem..

won't make a difference.

[el_bryanto]

10. I personally think she will likely win

I just think her presidency will be 4 more years of support for wall street and center right policies.

Bryant

[MoonRiver]

16. Yep, might as well be reading FR!

[frylock]

17. So are scientific polls legit or....?

[Truprogressive85]

23. Polls only matter to HRC supporters when she leads; they are still in shock from 2008

[frylock]

29. Yeah, I expect a lot of 1000-yard stares when the votes actually get counted.

But but but.... teh polls!!1

[Truprogressive85]

31. +

[trumad]

37. Yeah...same goes for you BS'ers.

[frylock]

41. Sooooo.. yes? No?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. I believe she will be running against only one passenger in the Klown Car.

As to the result. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Kalidurga]

26. The only way Democrats lose the GE is if all the swing states go red

and most swing states aren't going to do that. I forget how many are swing states. But, Iowa is one I think and they almost always go blue despite being called a swing state.

[pinebox]

44. Hillary will lose in a general

and do you know why that is?
Many Bernie supporters won't vote for her, indy voters won't vote for her. People will stay home because they see it as a no win situation.
Why do you think Trump and Carson are doing so well among cons? The answer is simple.....they're not politicians. That's the draw.
If Hillary is the nominee, Dems lose. She has no inspiration outside the Dem bubble. None.
Mark my words now.

[Capt. Obvious]

46. Yawn

[trumad]

47. You know...

When I see my posts in all their glory---I say!

[Goblinmonger]

48. I've never said that. But can she beat Kasich/Rubio?

That's Ohio/Florida, for those not following along.

Go ahead and make substantial differences between Kasich and Clinton. Kasich will appeal to the moderates. People can talk all they want about Sanders being a socialist and that being a problem, but when she seems very similar to the liberal Republican, there's going to be trouble.