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boston bean

(36,224 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:32 AM Nov 2015

It's so strange.

Organizations that Democrats support and Organizations that historically support Democrats, like:

Unions
BLM
Conservation/Environment

Get attacked on the internet by Bernie supporters for criticizing Bernie or endorse Hillary. Why? Why are these entities now the enemy of some?

Do I really have to go and dig up links to support the above? I hope most people are politically aware enough to know this has happened. So, please don't ask me for links to something that you can easily find on the web yourself, it's been in many of the major newspapers.

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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. Because if one does not immediately support the Sainted Sanders, savior of all,...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:06 AM
Nov 2015

one can only be a minion of the Oligarchy Supporting Corporatist Devil, and therefore must be Demonic.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
2. Tell us how they will benefit from a Clinton presidency if you want to make a point.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:11 AM
Nov 2015

Otherwise, you just engaging in partisan primary politics by calling us out.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. They will benefit because she supports unions, racial justice, and environmental causes.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:26 AM
Nov 2015

She would be the most effective leader to champion those causes as president, and she's also the most likely to beat the GOP and avoid a disaster on all three fronts.

And apparently those groups seem to agree with me.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
8. Belonging to some environmental groups myself,
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:14 AM
Nov 2015

people are disgusted with having been sold down the river on things like drilling off the Atlantic and the devastation of water resources by fracking. Therefore, some of the group leaders are misrepresentative of their rank and file.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. From calling Marissa J a racist...
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:24 AM
Nov 2015

To calling Lewis a corporate sell out. POC on this site were very upfront with respect to the racist undertones they were seeing when it comes to a lot of Sanders support. Understandable considering a good portion of his support comes from Paul supporters who view Sanders to be a more realistic option than Paul when it comes to economics. Unfortunately, they also bring other aspects of Paul with them as well. Really sucks for the really good supporters who in the past were always reliable votes for Kucinich in the primary. We need to make sure we differentiate them from the Paulites.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
5. It is because Sanders fans originated as a monolithic group
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:37 AM
Nov 2015

and thought diversity will just bow down and be grateful to be allowed to join their cause.

When that didn't happen, the doubters were lectured on and addressed as "you people just don't understand ..."

Like I said in another post, political skill involves LISTENING and COMPROMISES not lecturing and brow-beating.

This is why Bernie has jumped the shark.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. Brilliant summary …
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:32 AM
Nov 2015
"Like I said in another post, political skill involves LISTENING and COMPROMISES not lecturing and brow-beating. "

What you've described reminds me a lot of the methods used by Tea Partiers. A self-righteous stubbornness that results in nothing getting accomplished. When it comes to effective governing, the all-or-nothing and winner-take-all strategy appears to be the most regressive one of all.

Looking at Bernie's numbers, it appears that things aren't going as well as they'd hoped. What amazes me is that his supporters cannot accept any suggestion that their behavior has suppressed his numbers.

Instead they automatically assume that they simply weren't brow-beating forcefully enough, and so they increase the volume and intensity. Inevitably, they are genuinely shocked when the next round of numbers and endorsements roll in for Hillary, so rather than being introspective and looking at all rational explanations for Bernie's stagnating (and falling) numbers, they choose to place the blame elsewhere.

Oh well. You can't fix ... a broken campaign.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
6. Because not every thinks HRC is the best we can do and we can say so to her supporters.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:39 AM
Nov 2015


Welcome to discussion.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. It's so strange
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:02 AM
Nov 2015

that Clinton supporters are unable to actually read the posts on DU, and instead describe caricatures instead of reality.

We used to pride ourselves on being the "reality-based community". Not so much anymore.

oasis

(49,426 posts)
12. Madame DeFarge DU revolutionaries don't believe in compromise.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 04:16 PM
Nov 2015

It's the guillotine for all aristocrats (capitalists).

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