NYT Poll: Hillary Clinton appears to have neutralized the Bernie Sanders threat

[wyldwolf]

For months, the punditry’s core assumption about the Democratic presidential primary has been that Bernie Sanders’ authenticity and unabashedly robust agenda to combat inequality pose serious threats to Hillary Clinton. The underlying idea has been that Clinton’s aura of triangulatory (is that a word?) centrism would cause serious skepticism among liberal Democratic voters, and any Clinton efforts to move to the left would risk seeming inauthentic, unprincipled, and superficial in comparison to Sanders.

Today’s New York Times/CBS News poll seriously undermines this assumption. The poll shows Clinton leading Sanders by 52-33 among Democratic primary voters nationally.

And it also finds that Clinton has effectively tied Sanders or leads him among Democratic voters on the issues that were supposed to give him the advantage:

— Among Democratic voters, a total of 84 percent are either very confident (39) or somewhat confident (45) in Clinton to “make the right decisions about the economy.” For Sanders, the total is 68 percent (32 percent very confident and 36 percent somewhat confident).

— Among Democratic voters, a total of 67 percent are either very confident (25) or somewhat confident (42) in Clinton’s ability to “help reduce the gap between the rich and poor.” For Sanders, the total is 64 percent (30 percent very confident and 34 percent somewhat confident).

— Among Democratic voters, a total of 70 percent are either very confident (30) or somewhat confident (40) in Clinton’s “ability to make the right decisions when it comes to regulating large banks and financial institutions.” For Sanders, the total is 65 percent (29 percent very confident and 36 percent somewhat confident).

— Among Democratic voters, 62 percent say Clinton “could bring about real change in the way things are done in Washington,” while 51 percent say that about Sanders.

That last finding cuts against Sanders’ argument that he is the candidate who is not aligned with the establishment and thus is the one who represents genuine change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/11/13/morning-plum-hillary-clinton-appears-to-have-neutralized-the-bernie-sanders-threat/

[Fred Sanders]

1. Clinton is the evolution, Sanders is the revolution.....folks seem good with evolution continuing

along the same lines as Obama for 8 more years.

[brooklynite]

2. Slow and steady progress is better than risking an about-face.

[MohRokTah]

3. Obama put this nation on the right track and I am voting to continue that track. eom

[Fred Sanders]

4. Indeed. The regular commuter train to the same destination versus the express is good enough for me!

[MohRokTah]

7. My experience with trains proves the Express will break down and never arrive. eom

[AgingAmerican]

9. Some call it evolution

Most call it 'Flip Flop'

[PBass]

10. People say they want radical changes (Tea Party for example) but in reality

I believe that most people are scared of big political changes, and prefer incremental change.

Also, look at all the big changes the Tea Party faction in Congress have been able to accomplish (basically nothing except gridlock). Sometimes, it's not what you can promise, it's what you can deliver.

[reformist2]

5. Bernie's national numbers are at record highs, Hillary is back to where she was in August.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Actually, Hillary is at roughly the same place she was three years ago, lol

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary


That is a hell of a durable lead.


At this rate the Vermont independent might catch up by some time in the 22nd century, lol

[ibegurpard]

6. 2 1/2 months till February

How many times has Bernie's obituary been written now?

[litlbilly]

11. Im not sure who they think these bogus corporate polls will convince, but in these cases, polls

really are skewed. They are missing about half the electorate, and that's what they want. When Hillary draws 28k people to a rally that aren't bought and paid for, Ill be convinced.

[Godhumor]

12. What half of the electorate are they missing? n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. The half that exists is one's parallel reality.

EOM

[litlbilly]

15. the millenials and anyone who hasnt voted in previous elections. Might even be more than half

[litlbilly]

16. And since i was banned for using the word "troll" nothing surprises me anymore

I was also accused of being a troll because I have less than 200 posts. Ive been a member over 3 years, I just don't waste a lot of time typing, I am a reader not a poster unless I am compelled.

[Godhumor]

17. Polls are reflective of the actual electorate

And are weighted to reflect what percentage of each population demographic will actually vote. Real polls that follow a set methodology, even bad ones, will never be off by a factor of 50% from who actually shows up to vote. Not even close.

The polls are not skewed and certainly not for that reason.

[litlbilly]

18. Sorry but you are not correct. These polls are not to be taken seriously. Things have changed

and they are simply not polling correctly for the times. You will see.

[Rogue Democrat]

19. Agreed. Don't piss us off.

Will be the message from the millennials.

[Persondem]

14. Great info. Thank you for posting. K&R nt.