Hillary Clinton: No regret on Iraq vote

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Well let's not beat about the Bush?

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said she is not sorry she voted for a resolution authorizing President Bush to take military action in Iraq despite the recent problems there but she does regret "the way the president used the authority."

"Obviously, I've thought about that a lot in the months since," she said. "No, I don't regret giving the president authority because at the time it was in the context of weapons of mass destruction, grave threats to the United States, and clearly, Saddam Hussein had been a real problem for the international community for more than a decade."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/21/iraq.hillary/

Fast forward to the future - it was a mistake....

[Thinkingabout]

1. Seriously, an article from eleven years ago. Maybe we need to bring out a few more articles on

Sanders.

[Rogue Democrat]

2. Sure. Let's discuss issues that Clinton seems to change her mind QUITE a bit.

whereas Bernie Sanders has always stayed consistent

[Thinkingabout]

8. Wrong but consistent, or consistently wrong.

[beam me up scottie]

10. In a thread about the Iraq war you really want to claim Bernie was the one who was wrong?

Yeah, go with that.

[Scootaloo]

3. By all means, go for it.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. It shows how 'malleable' she really is

At the end of the day she won't stand up to Republicans, she'll get sucked in again.

[Thinkingabout]

17. No proof at all unless you accept Sanders is unable to stand up to the NRA, Lockheed Martin, etc

[SCantiGOP]

16. Once again

Overzealous supporters hurt their own cause with desperate hyperbole.

[Fred Sanders]

5. The "headline" saying what Clinton said is not what she said. But, please, carry on now that you

have the strawman all set up for an easy and historically inaccurate RW-like bashing session!

Who was it who said we need to talk about the issues....I keep forgetting who said folks are sick and tired of hearing about......anything but the issues?

Isn't throwing the first stone reserved for those without sin?

[Thinkingabout]

6. They dont have issues which are exciting so we get eleven year old articles. I would be more

Interested in reading why the ISIS Resolution was voted down and why Sanders voted against it in light of the Paris attacks today.

[Fred Sanders]

7. I am interested in anything to do with the now and future, not dredging the depths of the past.

I sometimes wonder if Sanders fans do not want to know what both sides of all the current issues really are and how close all the candidates are on those issues, because it seems questionable interpretations of past deeds is the main course.....and all it leads to is tit for tat and all amounting to nothing that helps anyone but the mendacious to the core GOP.

[Thinkingabout]

11. Yes and the experience in foreign affairs plus the information Clinton has gathered has allowed

Clinton to work for our future. Her issues have brought the concerns of our citizens in her agenda, an agenda if the future.

[Joe Turner]

28. The past is the best predictor of the future

It provides us a record of what a person actually did as opposed to what they said. Should be common sense right? You don't like the past because it is something that hurts the candidacy of Hillary. I suppose if a convicted felon ran for office supporting all your favorite causes you would be cool with it, because whatever the crimes the person did, it is the past and that's not relevant now.

[tecelote]

38. That's the magic of flip flopping.

You're right about everything.

My vote is for the consistent and morally superior candidate.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

40. The Iraq war was one of the main factors why Clinton lost in 2008

[NanceGreggs]

9. Another OP about HRC's Iraq vote ...

Did her poll numbers go up again today? That usually triggers these posts.

Maybe BS can bring it up at tomorrow's debate, so he can "mop the floor" with Hillary - ya know, just the way he did in the first one!

[Fred Sanders]

12. Whatever was the result of Sanders's 2 million dollar Iowa and NH ad buy?

That would be interesting to find out if he was able to move the poll numbers at all.....after all there is not an unlimited amount of vacuum pennies one can rely on.

[Thinkingabout]

13. An eleven year old article, I guess we will have to relive eleven years ago lots of times. Not me,

I am moving on. You are right, the worn out debunked talking points has not worked in the past month and I doubt they will this month either.

[NanceGreggs]

14. Well, I've learned to take these pointless OPs ...

... as a signal that HRC must be doing really, really well!

In addition, given the tragic events in Paris today, I guess a lot of Bernie fans are worried that foreign affairs will be a big topic at tomorrow's debate - and we all know that's BS's weakest point.

So out come the same old OPs that have been posted a zillion times - like clockwork!

[Thinkingabout]

15. If I had to bet on which candidate was better informed it would be Clinton.

[Ken Burch]

20. There can never again be a liberal case for the use of force.

And there isn't one with the tragedy in Paris. No bombings, no invasions, no "boots on the ground" cam ever lead to anything positive or liberating in the Arab/Muslim.

All wars for the rest of eternity will solely be wars for the rich.

[Thinkingabout]

23. But they benefit the defense contractors.

[Ken Burch]

25. Which supports the last line in my post. n/t.

[Thinkingabout]

36. Are we watching who votes to keep these programs running?

[SunSeeker]

33. Bernie has voted many times for the use of force (Serbia, Kosovo, Afghanistan...).

And most certainly will again.

[WillyT]

27. First Of All... BULLSHIT !!! -Second Of All, You Twist Your Petzelness As Needed For Your Goals...

Many of us are tired of unending war.

And... the people that benefit from it.

[Thinkingabout]

37. Explain this to Sanders who continues to vote to keep the defense contractors in business.

He is a big supporter of the F-35 program, one which still has not developed a plane which is functional in battle but they continue to throw good money after bad. He has said he will take military action and use drones. Look at the votes on military programs, see who supports those programs.

[R B Garr]

22. Exactly! It's just a trumped up wedge issue now

It didn't matter with Kerry in 2004. Its now just a holier-than-thou talking point to browbeat people to gain some phony moral high ground. Very RW.

[Thinkingabout]

24. Just something to say when a good position on issues are not available.

[R B Garr]

18. Yup, it's now just obviously used as a wedge

Issue. It didn't affect Kerry 11 years ago.

[coyote]

35. The trigger was probably the 150 prople killed in Paris

We are the seeing the blowback for the irresponsible decision of going into Iraq and Hillary's bad judgement in enabling it....not to mention Syria, Libya, Yemen, And Somalia.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

41. The eternal quagmire

[Ken Burch]

19. She KNEW Bush would go to war. So did Kerry.

It simply isn't possible that they could have thought anything else would happen. All of them knew Bush could only get re-elected if he got something like a war to protect him from a serious opposition campaign.

Like the people who lived around the death camps, they KNEW. They couldn't not know.

[senseandsensibility]

21. cool

[The Straight Story]

26. Hillary trusted bush and she jumped on the war bandwagon.

Oh wait, I can't say that - it means I am sexist according to some.

Hillary was totally right in what she did. Thank you Hillary! (Don't criticize her - it is wrong, she is above reproach because of her gender).

[ismnotwasm]

30. Respectfully, What are you talking about?

[The Straight Story]

32. In regards to what?

The sexism thing? Thread last night where I was accused of being sexist because I questioned her, perhaps. Can't criticize her because I am a "male" and humans with a penis aren't allowed to say anything negative about her. Only women can discuss Hillary. Oh, and the poster says that in 2008 I never said anything bad about Obama (that was a long time ago, apparently they read every post of mine from then) because he was a male.

And I am the sexist one. Right.

[gordyfl]

29. Hillary is Too "Trigger Happy" for Me

Almost every time there was an internal disagreement within the Obama administration about whether to use force, Clinton could be found on the interventionist side.

While you can’t draw a direct correlation between the two, it’s nevertheless intriguing:


So many of the Obama administration’s major diplomatic successes have occurred in the years since Clinton departed.

[askew]

31. Absolutely true.

Kerry has had enormous diplomatic success in his shorter tenure at State.

I am really curious how Hillary responds in tomorrow's debate after today's attacks in Paris. She is hawkish and an interventionist so I am wondering if she will propose boots on the ground in the Middle East.

[eridani]

34. Whenever we nominate a candidate that voted for the Iraq war, we lose n/t

[Scuba]

39. Yet some wonder why others don't trust Hillary.