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CBS is thinking about canceling the Democratic Debate (Original Post) JimDandy Nov 2015 OP
Might not be a bad idea. Agschmid Nov 2015 #1
DWS called to suggest it might not be safe. merrily Nov 2015 #2
Clinton has the superdelegates locked up and Bernie only has eight JimDandy Nov 2015 #4
Do the voters count anymore in the Democratic Party? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #8
That's my damn question Aerows Nov 2015 #16
No, Not with the machines we have. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #55
+1 tecelote Nov 2015 #29
Apparently they don't... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #30
Of course they do. Primary elections begin next year, MineralMan Nov 2015 #43
If the popular votes in the primary vote for someone else BainsBane Nov 2015 #50
"Locked up" is a lie. They can switch whenever they want to. Many did exactly that in 2008. merrily Nov 2015 #11
I guess her PACs have tried to buy up as many as they could... cascadiance Nov 2015 #26
Someone from the network and the DNC had to have spoken about the cancellation. merrily Nov 2015 #44
Hi! I'm a person who has to stand on stages. Yesterday a theater was attacked pre-performance. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #36
The joke was at the expense of DWS, not human life. I did not joke about anyone dying, but about a merrily Nov 2015 #41
They should hold the debate artislife Nov 2015 #3
I mostly agree with this. Agschmid Nov 2015 #5
Why? artislife Nov 2015 #13
I disagree... chillfactor Nov 2015 #12
Really? artislife Nov 2015 #14
I think they should postpone it Armstead Nov 2015 #35
They should. joshcryer Nov 2015 #6
I think rescheduled safeinOhio Nov 2015 #7
If they rescheduled it for a better time where there's less distractions too cascadiance Nov 2015 #27
That would be a good idea, reschedule it. It's not like they are short on time and having a huge uppityperson Nov 2015 #9
agreed... chillfactor Nov 2015 #10
Are they also thinking of canceling coverage of Saturday's football games? n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #15
Oh, well, let's not get drastic! Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #23
THIS^^^ valerief Nov 2015 #51
So these terrorists get to determine our elections now? What utter nonsense. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #17
i agree, they should cancel them JI7 Nov 2015 #18
That's not what the NY Times said. winter is coming Nov 2015 #19
Interesting. That's what I think they should do. n/t JimDandy Nov 2015 #20
THIS. BootinUp Nov 2015 #38
no doubt cbs is getting good advice from dws restorefreedom Nov 2015 #21
Totally wouldn't surprise me. nt Flying Squirrel Nov 2015 #25
With thousands of Debate Watch parties Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #22
Nobody's gonna watch it anyway, especially in Iowa Flying Squirrel Nov 2015 #24
Mixed feelings about this. msrizzo Nov 2015 #28
Think about it... This is fascism at work.. How bout cancelling the NFL game on Sunday? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #31
We need the debate more than ever. America needs to know we have great candidates FSogol Nov 2015 #32
Let's cancel Saturday night and move to prime time on a weekday so maybe people will watch. tecelote Nov 2015 #33
+1 RiverLover Nov 2015 #37
bad idea. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #34
reports coming in that it's still on bigtree Nov 2015 #39
Would be rescheduled ... left-of-center2012 Nov 2015 #40
I'm getting to where I could care less. mmonk Nov 2015 #42
Best handled if one wants a certain result Armstead Nov 2015 #45
I'm still into that democracy thingy. mmonk Nov 2015 #46
But democreacy is so annoying Armstead Nov 2015 #47
Yeah, apparently. mmonk Nov 2015 #58
Why? this country needs to talk about it Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #48
Kind of tired of letting a gang of people with machine guns and explosives Dem2 Nov 2015 #49
Fuck that! Get rid of the audience. Have the debaters in separate locations. valerief Nov 2015 #52
Why not? The MIC has their candidate. earthside Nov 2015 #53
they should and they should reschedule it later during prime time drray23 Nov 2015 #54
(sniff-sniff) Wheww! Smells like MSM's closing ranks again. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #56
Well that turned out to be a completely wrong rumor. onenote Nov 2015 #57

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
4. Clinton has the superdelegates locked up and Bernie only has eight
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:25 AM
Nov 2015

was the reporter's next statement made after that announcement. The implication being: 'Clinton is inevitable so what do we need any more debates for anyway.' Now THAT actually could be a pushed talking point from DWS.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
8. Do the voters count anymore in the Democratic Party?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:33 AM
Nov 2015

Or does the establishment handle all that now?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
30. Apparently they don't...
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:19 AM
Nov 2015

The DNC doesn't want our opinion, anyway, and when I complained about the biased way in which they appeared to, some insiders to it didn't think it mattered at all. Just raise the money, to hell with the voters...

My rant last night - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=804229

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
43. Of course they do. Primary elections begin next year,
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:52 AM
Nov 2015

and they or caucuses will be held in all 50 states. The voters will determine who the nominee will be. Their wishes will be quite clear, I think, and the nominee will be the person who wins the most delegates in those elections and caucuses.

What makes you think that will not be the case?

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
50. If the popular votes in the primary vote for someone else
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 12:52 PM
Nov 2015

The super delegates would switch to that candidate. They wouldn't overturn the popular vote. If I recall correctly, in 2008 a number of super delegates switched from Clinton to Obama due to the outcome of the primary elections.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
26. I guess her PACs have tried to buy up as many as they could...
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:37 AM
Nov 2015

... or perhaps discourage those that might want to endorse Bernie with ads against them too.

Yep, I guess we're living in an age where elections can be bought more!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. Hi! I'm a person who has to stand on stages. Yesterday a theater was attacked pre-performance.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:59 AM
Nov 2015

Safety of public figures is not something I kid about nor would I ever, ever politicize. But that's just me.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
41. The joke was at the expense of DWS, not human life. I did not joke about anyone dying, but about a
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 11:36 AM
Nov 2015

damned phone call made by DWS--and no phones or DNC heads were harmed or put at risk in the making of my post.

I am sorry that I seem to disappoint you so often, Blue. You have been rude and or insulting to me in almost every post you have made to me. I am not sure why because I don't recall ever having attacked you.

I assure you that I am as capable of cutting prose as you are. However, I have never replied in kind because I KNOW you have been through a lot during your entire life and I am deeply sorry about that. I never wanted to add to it, even a little. So, my replies to you have just stuck very closely to whatever substantive issue I found in your post.

But, implying I don't care or am flip about people being injured or killed is beyond the pale and not consistent with me or a single post I have made on any board ever.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
3. They should hold the debate
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:20 AM
Nov 2015

And ask how military action in the ME has lead to new factions of rebellion and how they would handle the new world order.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. I mostly agree with this.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:26 AM
Nov 2015

However I could see them rescheduling it.

I am supposed to canvass tomorrow and I'm not really sure I'm comfortable doing that with everything going on. I don't want to intrude on anyone while they are responding to this.

I know some won't even be aware of it until the morning.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
13. Why?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:49 AM
Nov 2015

Who would be responding to this?

What is everything? How many terror attacks has there been in the last year?

Oh...here is the answer. But we haven't stopped any debates or canvassing before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015

Take your time. There are so many.
Don't get me wrong, I have an old boyfriend living in Paris and was happy to see his FB post he is ok and I am sad for those who are affected by this event, but this is not new. This is a string . Look at the list. We will forget about Paris, like we forgot about the shooting last month. We are innoculated from letting death and destruction from actually making us self reflect and choose differently.

No-- the debates should go on...because the window of America actually caring is so small and must be utilized before it closes up again.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
14. Really?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:54 AM
Nov 2015

Do you think the French families will be aware that the Americans had a debate on tv?


If they are, do you think that they may also want to know how this country will proceed in the future against the ME, since they are the ones who are bearing the brunt of hatred for the wars and occupations in the ME at this moment and possibly in the future?

Take a look at my other post and see how many terror attacks have happened around the world this year. It is breath taking in its sheer numbers.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
35. I think they should postpone it
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:56 AM
Nov 2015

I think it's affected everybody. We need a day or tow to process, and politics seems kind of petty at the moment,

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
6. They should.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:29 AM
Nov 2015

The news won't cover it and if they do it'll be a spectacle about who is the most hawkish.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
27. If they rescheduled it for a better time where there's less distractions too
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:40 AM
Nov 2015

And they don't have to compete with potentially a record setting football match AND a record setting wrestling match on the other side of the state where the debate is happening, might be better. I wonder though if they could get a venue this late though.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
9. That would be a good idea, reschedule it. It's not like they are short on time and having a huge
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:35 AM
Nov 2015

attack like this? Put it off if even if it respect for those who were murdered.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
10. agreed...
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:38 AM
Nov 2015

it is best because of what is happening in France....all politics aside for now..people more interested in what is happening in France

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. So these terrorists get to determine our elections now? What utter nonsense.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:13 AM
Nov 2015

The most powerful, or so we are told, country in the world shuts down because of extremists, many create by the Imperial wars we have going all over the place.

Seems like an excuse to me.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
19. That's not what the NY Times said.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:18 AM
Nov 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/us/politics/democratic-debate-to-get-new-terrorism-focus-after-paris-attacks-cbs-says.html?_r=0


Steve Capus, the executive editor of CBS News and the executive producer of “CBS Evening News,” said in an interview late Friday that he was in the middle of a rehearsal for the debate when news broke about the slaughter in Paris.

The CBS News team immediately shifted gears and reformulated questions to make them more directly related to the attacks. Mr. Capus said it was important for the debate to go on because the world looks to the American president for leadership during international crises.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
21. no doubt cbs is getting good advice from dws
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 04:44 AM
Nov 2015

i can't think of a more perfect time to have a debate, considering that war mongering is a national pastime.

if this gets cancelled it will NOT get rescheduled. watch.

another stunt.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
24. Nobody's gonna watch it anyway, especially in Iowa
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 05:30 AM
Nov 2015

Since they timed it just right to conflict with a major football game.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251804146

I say reschedule it for a better time.

msrizzo

(796 posts)
28. Mixed feelings about this.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:04 AM
Nov 2015

I worry that there will be backlash against our candidates if it goes on. I also worry that they will be a bit blindsided by being obliged to comment on this before there is sufficient information on hand. The Republicans will pounce on any little thing they say. But on the other hand, our candidates could show leadership--something that is sorely needed at this time.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
31. Think about it... This is fascism at work.. How bout cancelling the NFL game on Sunday?
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:22 AM
Nov 2015

Including the Steelers game...

Would it be "safe" by then? Uh... let's see... checking the viewing markets here and our corporate sponsors.

Who's runnings the most important decision of 2016, anyway?

FSogol

(45,487 posts)
32. We need the debate more than ever. America needs to know we have great candidates
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:23 AM
Nov 2015

while the GOP just farts around screaming.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
33. Let's cancel Saturday night and move to prime time on a weekday so maybe people will watch.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 08:26 AM
Nov 2015

Not in response to the attacks. But, simply as a good tactic to get Americans involved.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
39. reports coming in that it's still on
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 09:24 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Sat Nov 14, 2015, 10:19 AM - Edit history (2)

John Nichols ‏@NicholsUprising 51m51 minutes ago

DNC & @CBSNews make right decision to go ahead w/tonight's debate. What has happened in Paris will frame a sober, yet necessary discussion.
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CBS News Chief Says Democratic Debate Will Go Forward After Paris Attacks

The Democratic presidential debate slated for Saturday will go forward as scheduled in the wake of deadly terror attacks in Paris, according to CBS News. Steve Capus, CBS News Executive Editor and Evening News Executive Producer, tweeted Friday evening that the event will address the attacks.

@CBSNews #DemDebate is going forward as planned tomorrow. Tonight’s attacks in Paris require important questions for the candidates.
- Steve Capus (@SteveCapus) November 14, 2015


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-underdog-martin-omalley-plans-show-bite-debate/story?id=35192545

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
49. Kind of tired of letting a gang of people with machine guns and explosives
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 12:48 PM
Nov 2015

change how we do things. F*** that. People in Paris aren't going to change how they do thing and neither should we.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
52. Fuck that! Get rid of the audience. Have the debaters in separate locations.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015

Have the moderators in separate locations. We have the technology to deliver a debate on the teevee where everyone doesn't have to be in the same place. So do it! Don't stop the debate. We already have so few of them and it's on a fuckin' Saturday to boot.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
53. Why not? The MIC has their candidate.
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 12:59 PM
Nov 2015

Who has to prove (and has tried to prove in the past) that she is tough enough and hardheaded enough to be Commander-in-Chief and go to war?

It is so obvious that the hammer is coming down for the most establishment 'conservative' candidate.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
54. they should and they should reschedule it later during prime time
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 01:05 PM
Nov 2015

So that what the candidates say can be reported by the media and not drowned in the coverage of the horrific events in Paris. Moreover I also want them to be prepared to answer questions regarding the situation in general and have a solid debate.

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