2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Hillary admit her mistake pushing to arm "moderate" Syrian rebels?
Hillary Clinton wanted to arm Syrian rebels, memoir revealsThe "moderate" rebels turned out to be a myth. It partly led to ISIS and other terrorists growing. (source)
Why was the US actively involved with trying to overthrow the government of Syria?
President Obama resisted her strategy at first but later followed it. It was horrible advice.
The only thing I've seen Hillary Clinton do so far is blame President Obama for not arming them even more. If he had followed her plan things would have been even worse. So is she going to admit her Syria strategy was a disaster, or will she count on it being too confusing for voters to figure out?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I would call it the default US strategy. She simply bought into the idea.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)And blaming him for not being hawkish enough.
The Obama Administrations wariness about assisting rebels out of fear that aid would fall into the hands of extremists was misguided and ineffectual, Clinton said in an interview with the Atlantic, and allowed for the rise of Islamic extremists who are now threatening to take over wide swaths of Iraq.
Obama was right to be skeptical. The weapons did fall into the wrong hands. He would have been better off sticking with his original instinct.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But that interventionism has roots in the Monroe Doctrine. HRC is merely one of many interventionist US politicians in the past 200 plus years.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Any President is going to intervene, meddle, engage in other countries' business, somewhat. That comes with running an empire.
But Hillary Clinton is on the hawkish end of the spectrum though. Sadly it leads to blowback.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)be any more of a hawk that President Obama. THAT IS HILARIOUS and sad it's so blatantly false.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)4139
(1,893 posts)It was on Face the Nation where Hillary said the u.s. Should take 65,000 Syrian refugees.... I will be Shocked if he doesn't ask that question to all.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Please elaborate. I can't answer the question until I know what it means.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Good luck with real issues.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)I like it.
Yep, and she would blame it on wrong intel!
Persondem
(1,936 posts)Hmmmm?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)I don't know watch that Tulsi Gabbard thing and see how she explains it.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)Clinton's idea about arming Syrian rebels is from a couple of years ago. Different situations. So which terrorist group was/is supposedly getting the weapons and what percent is getting to the moderate Syrians and what % to terrorists?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)It's a recent interview so it's actually very relevant.
The decision to arm some of those groups was a few years ago, and the blowback is happening now.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)She is horrible on foreign policy. She has been totally in the neocon camp since 9/11. Cowardly progressives want to give her a pass for that, but there is no indication she has backed off that mistake in any way. She is following the PNAC plan all the way. Even gave warm fuzzies to Netenyahu in a letter to the Forward.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)It's either like the worst judgement ever or really bad intentions. I honestly don't know which.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Either she is stupid and gullible...or she has really evil hidden intentions.
Scary lady, IMO.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)with that nut job in power, life was limited and surreal. It could have turned out like Tunisia, and still might.
"Cowardly progressives want to give her a pass for that,"
You have that wrong. Cowardly progressives are okay with dictators and sponsors of terrorism.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)The Saudis have thus far sponsered Al Qaeda, Isis, the Taliban, Boko Haram and the Boston Bombers. The Saudis treat women like property, and don't let them drive or leave the house unaccompanied by male relatives. Yet we ally with them. Meanwhile most of the Lockerbe Bombing allegations against Qaddafi happened a long time ago and were debunked by the Brits including Tony Blair.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)and pushed Obama to arm them.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)supports your notion that Clinton supports ISIS. Please proceed.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Who had nothing to do with 9/11.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)That and freedom. Two things you're learning. See I explain it first you deliver Gift of Freedom and in return you get business opportunities. The more you know.
http://www.ibtimes.com/campaign-2016-hillary-clinton-pitched-iraq-business-opportunity-us-corporations-2121999
The quote was included in an email released by the State Department on Wednesday that specifically mentioned JPMorgan and Exxon Mobil. JPMorgan was selected by the U.S. government to run a key import-export bank in Iraq and in 2013 announced plans to expand its operations in the country. Exxon Mobil signed a deal to redevelop Iraqi oil fields. JPMorgan has collectively paid the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation at least $450,000 for speeches, and Exxon Mobil has donated over $1 million to the familys foundation.
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Guess it gave both of you the wiggle room to make it look like an admission. GMAB.
William769
(55,147 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Sorry